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  1. IBM Aptiva M50 SL-H Pentium 100 MHz -> I am USING IT right now! (not powered, just to "raise" my monitors since my desk´s height is low and my chair is high).
  2. A common misunderstanding of the first movie is thinking that the "3 previous coronations" of Sunset Shimmer in C.H.S. correspond to the same event ( Fall Formal ); while it is clear in the subtext that the "Spring Fling" is the "Last Spring Debacle" mentioned by Rarity near the end (also foreshadowed by Applejack using baloons earlier). The "Mirror" opens once every 30 moons (so once every 2 and a half years). The "humane" mane five were happy as freshman students. Sunset Shimmer was also likely a "nice & proper" student on her first year [she did not participated (or did not won) on the first Fall Formal]; only becoming "an evil Alpha Bitch" after two consecutive victories [ one Spring Fling & one Fall Formal ] when she had to sabotage Rarity´s circle of friends in order to prevent them from convincing most of the students to vote against her in her second "Spring Fling". There are no reasons to believe that "Pedestria" (the world of C.H.S.) & "Equestria" run at different timescales. Between the first EQG movie ( "Through The Mirror" ) & the second ( "Rainbow Rocks" ) only a few months had passed [this is also the entire duration of the "unfolding events" proper for Season 4 of FiM, since many of its filler episodes were "recycled" from scripts originally made for the batch going from S3E14 to S3E24]. A similar "timeskip" goes between EQG 2 & EQG3 (Friendship Games), as the time it took for the Sirens to "track down" the source of the Rainbow Blast of the first movie [using their "magic sense" (initially) and their hypnosis on random people (later) to get its location], is what Sci-Twi needed to pin down the stronger "magical signals" from the Dazzlings/Rainbooms battle with her equipment. The EQG4 movie happened AT LEAST an entire month after the Friendship Games (given what Applejack said about being "waiting" for a non-magically compromised fun activity with her friends). Since Camp Everfree is open only in Summer, it means a bit less than a year had passed since EQG1, that was precisely at the begining of Autum ("Fall" Formal). The "Mirror Magic" EQG special "syncs" with FiM by having Starlight Glimmer at Twilight´s Castle in Equestria bored (while the Mane Six go "on a cutiemap mission" without her); meaning it happened AFTER FiM_S6E12 "Spice Up Your Life" [when Princess Twilight & Starlight fixed the cutiemap]; but before she rescued them from Chrysalis in the Season 6 finale (given the "lessons" she learned in that special). The "beach shorts" happened on that same late summer; including the "Forgotten Friendship" EQG Special. There is a posible connection between Celestia "unlocking" the Restricted Section of the Canterlot Library for Sunset & Princess Twilight; and the latter´s interest on reading obscure 1000+ year old texts in Old Ponish (that served for the plot of the Season 7 finale), likely around the end of Fall (on the side of "Pedestria"). The last known "proper" crossover is on the EQG Special "Spring Breakdown" (happening obviously in Spring), after a very long timeskip of many months [there was an Equestria Girls short with humane!Rarity having to deal with cold & snow]. Spring Breakdown is canonically after the MLP MOVIE 2017 (somewhere in between the "coldstart" of S8E01 and the rest of that episode), given that the School of Friendship was not built yet. The FINAL Equestria Girls connection (debatable) was on the "Sunset´s Backstage" EQG special; when Princess Twilight mentioned that "recently" the magical device that Sunset was looking for (timeloop) had dissapeared from its last known location in Equestria. The only logical reason for Twilight to get this information would be if she was checking out for OTHER artifacts stored in the same place; something she did just before S8E14 ("A Matter of Principals") as preparation for her "magic hunt" event [that was followed by a "winter" episode]. The S8 finale happened BEFORE the end of the (second?) "semester" of the School of Friendship. The S9 premiere was concurrent with the "summer recess" of the School of Friendship & in S9E06 it was shown that Fluttershy was the "Best Teacher" for more than a year. Starlight & Trixie´s special "Equinox Cake Party" [S9E11] was likely for the event marking the begining of Autumn (equivalent to the "Fall Formal" in Pedestria). The FiM Special "Best Gift Ever" is likely placed in the next winter, followed by S9E17 ("The Summer Sun Setback") at the end of the next Spring... -> Princess Twilight´s actual coronation (sometime after the S9 "finale") may had happened at the same time than another "Fall Formal" in Pedestria.
  3. Who says she did not? -> She either "imported" or reverse_engineered a CO2 fire extinguiser to properly equip her "School of Friendship" against dragonfire accidents [something that likely was never even considered by other schools in Equestria]. In the Season 8 finale, some cupcakes Pinkie brought for their journey to Tartarus got stale because all magic in Equestria was getting drained [S8E25]. The fact that she expected them to remain cold in her saddlebag implies it was enchanted to "keeping stuff cold" in it (as it would be more practical than enchanting every single piece of food). They already use electricity for non-semiconductor devices (simple lights & heat generators for hot water/steam); ast they prefer the wireless "Tesla Coil" Electromagnetic Induction System for its transportation (this is why there are no "high voltage cables" going outside the hydroelectrical dam); something that is by force short_ranged [just a few kilometer radius of "service"] & also makes "radio" or any other long_range comunication system impossible [since the entire spectrum is already saturated with energy, the "noise level" will be as high as any "signal"].
  4. EXTREMELY LONG analysis ahead: Click the spoiler to see it (hiding it to not bloat the thread)
  5. You raise a good point... In my case, I would have to quickly learn everything I do not know about Sunset... something that may be easy to do if I can use her geod´s power [but it also means I would have to be VERY CAREFULL until I got enough knowledge about how every other person/pony thinks about her]. Given that her geod "dissapears" when Sunset goes to Equestria, it may mean using its power is not a posibility while on pony land [so I would had to find a good reason/excuse to bring Twilight, Spike The Dragon & Starlight to Pedestria (CHS); to "scan" their memories]. Celestia would be really hard to get out of Equestria... unless I manage to convince her to take "vacations" [assuming she is not "retired" already when I replace Sunset]. -> Getting Celestia´s memories would be really important to get: If I ever have the need I could use the "excuse" that my own memories got "shuffled" by the Memory Stone (but I kept it hidden or did not noticed & now it is getting worse because of ~reasons~ ), knowing about the past of Sunset BEFORE she got out of Equestria could be the only way to "convince" them that I am the real one.
  6. The bisexual unicorn with a geod that gaves her the ability to see/feel EVERYTHING another person experienced just by touching them for a few seconds. -> Extra points if Sunset ever learns how to control the "overload mode" of her geod [to be able to read "open thoughts" of people nearby & access the memories of the rest of the mane 7 via their connection with their geods].
  7. Sunset Shimmer is bisexual (confirmed). If there is 1 non-hetero in EQG, then "Everyone" is not applicable. End of the Discussion.
  8. Hello and Happy Birthday! :)



  10. Both Twilights SHOULD be desperate to find a way to prevent ANY timeloop from happening. But not for the reasons most people think... From the point of view of (any) Twilight: a) If there is only 1 timeline (the device just "add" an entire day for a few people every time): -> Then Sunset (plus who know how many others) would eventually get perverted & brave enough to perform all types of experiments with her body/mind, over & over [until she/they know everything about her, even more than herself ever could]. Even if the timeloop stops, she would be completely exposed to their manipulation (no chance for her to overcome whatever may be done to her "for realz" this last time). b) If there is a multiverse (the device moves Sunset & others to the past of another reality): Then there is a chance that she would NEVER see again her friend Sunset Shimmer (or any other "doppleganger Sunset" from another world ). -> This is the MOST SERIOUS risk [specially since it is likely canon from "The Cutie Remark" implied timetravel mechanisms & Starlight´s "half-explanation" of it back in the S7 finale ]; since nothing guarantees the events of the "next world" would lead to their Sunset Shimmer to enter into the past of this one (replacing the one from this that is going to another world´s past).
  11. The King is Back (feat. Vylet Pony) by Blackened Blue
  12. Ideas & Design Works (IDW) never had "access" to the "Bible of the Show" of either FiM or the Equestria Girls Franchises [they do not even had a SINGLE writter who ever worked at Decode HalifaX Media (DHX) ]. -> THE COMICS ARE NOT CANON. First mistake: Assuming things (there is only 1 "crowning event" per year). Second mistake Not paying attention: The "Last Spring Debacle" Rarity referenced at the end of EQG1 is the same "Spring Fling" event Fluttershy mentioned at the cafeteria while talking about the same "girl" [RARITY] that Applejack also described as being "backstabbed" by Sunset Shimmer previously on that SAME YEAR ]. -> The First & Third pictures of Sunset Shimmer at Principal Celestia´s office corresponds to the "Spring Fling" events on the previous and current year; with only the second one being the previous Fall Formal (happening about 1 year before EQG1). Third mistake: Princess Luna already told us when was the LAST POSIBLE TIME Sunset Shimmer could had left Equestria (or came back as Princess Celestia hoped): 30 Moon cycles ago (~2 and a half years) before the ~few weeks~ that passed after S3E13 (that is also less than a month from S4E01); almost ONE FULL YEAR since the pilot of the series: S1E01 (The Summer Sun Celebration). -> This is rather UNLIKELY since Twilight was a "little filly" (younger than the CMC) when she got her cutiemark [ Sunset Shimmer left Equestria BEFORE Twilight got it, since they never met each others ]; so it is more likely that it happened on a 60 Moon/months (~5 years) timeframe; as this would allow Sunset to begin classes at Canterlot Highschool at ~whatever grade the human CMC currently are~ [also the "chibi" forms of the humane five on that old, dusty anual school book on EQG1 finally make sense]. 4th: It is "Fall (formal)" on Earth, yet almost the begining of Summer in Equestria (maybe the ammount of days for each year is DIFFERENT between Earth & Equestria?); in any case, the "seasonal seasons" of the planets are NOT in sync [but the flow of time it is the same]. 5th: Wallflower Blush said that she met Sunset Shimmer "in ninth-grade English" (meaning that they could have being on different schedules or parallel classes on previous years); but also that she met Trixie "since third grade" (period); but not necesary at CHS (perhaps in some other elementary school in "The Town" ? ). 6th: Applejack knows that Rarity´s dream of being a clothes designer dates back to... kindergarden. (from that Rarijack EQG special) The point is that free education is covered on Earth for youngins. Conclusions: Sunset Shimmer real age is ~30 years old (same as Maud, Starlight or Sunburst). The "portal" only translates "species" between planets (but does not compute "ages"); so it is currently using the "median shape" from what it can "see" from its position (facing to the entrance of a Highschool full of teenagers). For the case of Spike, it likely used that other dog seen on EQG1 (just after they arrived for the first time) as a model. -> The last EQG special has a "suspiciously young" Princess Celestia lookalike... Either: a) FiM is showing events from MULTIPLE timelines of Equestria (something that is canon to exist and be real since S5E25) b) SOME of the Hearth Warming Eve celebrations happened in the distant future and/or at the same time (it requires minor retcons on some visual details, like Twilight´s wings/castle, the CMC cutiemarks, or Spike´s wings). . (Main, Prime, "canon") Equestria & CHS timelines are always in sync: [ S4E01 = EQG1 ; S5E01 = EQG2:RR ; S5E26 = EQG3:FG ... ] [ ... ; S6E12 (Twilight&Midnight "in mirror" at Twilight´s Castle) = EQG4:LoE ; S6E21 (Starlight´s Test) = EQG4+(3/3):MiMa ... ] [ ... ; S7E20~24 (Libraries+Pilars+Clover) = EQG4+2:FF ; S8E01 (coldstart+movie) = EQG4+4:SB ... ] [ ... ; S8E14 (Rare Artifacts) = EQG4+5:SBP ] 
  13. I will agree with you IF the ONLY "Planetary Defense" were the Humane 7 (IF they fail, THEN the planet is DOOMED). BUT ! ! -> The TITLE of this thread includes "The Military" (implicitly also opening the way for other third parties too): . Wallflower with the Memory Stone [you could also include "The Sorceress" Clover was chasing (or descendants)]. . The pony who brought the timeloop device from Equestria (before losing it and/or dying at that water stream). . Any plausible "random Equestrian Magic Burst" giving someone a "boost" from "local background human" to hero/ine. . A (Secret) Society or Goverment_funded Organization with access to restricted magical devices [akind to the S.C.P. Foundation]; that would change from "in the shadows" to "counter-attack" once all previous ones PLUS the (normal) Military fail.
  14. Exactly! -> This is why I am sugesting changes on the proposal (check my previous post).