Hierok 11,832 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, ShootingStar159 said: As far as I’m aware, ELTSD is way more liked than it is hated. I liked it a lot, it did a great job showing that Starlight’s way of thinking is still screwy, even though she wants to be a better person. I know many of her fans love this about her and it’s what makes her path to redemption more believable than any of the other reformed villains. What was so horrible about the episode that it needs to be removed all together? I think it was a little over the top, but it was a nice idea. If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStar159 2,157 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hierok said: I think it was a little over the top, but it was a nice idea. I have my own problems with ELTSD, but nothing that I think is worth removing one of her key character developement episodes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierok 11,832 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ShootingStar159 said: I have my own problems with ELTSD, but nothing that I think is worth removing one of her key character developement episodes. Yeah, it definitly was a good episode for Starlight, but the way she immitiatly grabs her spellbooks was a little unrealistic for me. 1 If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStar159 2,157 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hierok said: Yeah, it definitly was a good episode for Starlight, but the way she immitiatly grabs her spellbooks was a little unrealistic for me. That's exactly my problem, we get no clue as to her motivations until way after she starts messing up. Look at Lesson Zero, the episode most compared to ELTSD. We know right away why Twilight is panicking, as silly as it is, and we spend most of the episode focused on her panic attack. Very little time is spent on Twilights mess up. Now let’s look at ELTSD. We see Starlight’s panic attack, but get no inside look at why she’s panicking. The vast majority of the episode is focused on Starlight’s mistake instead of explaining why she’s resorting to magic. And the reason given at the end, that she’s afraid to disappoint anyone, is sugar coating her real fears and anxieties that have already been established earlier in the season. Starlight is terrified of rejection. When Twilight points out that Starlight hasn’t done any friendship lessons, Starlight starts to worry that Twilight is disappointed in her. And she worries that if Twilight is disappointed in her, she’ll give up on her entirely. So, looking to impress Twilight, she tries to do all of her friendship lessons at once. So we end up with Twilight looking more sympathetic, even though her reason for brainwashing an entire town is shit, while Starlight, who has a real, psychological reason to panic, looks worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierok 11,832 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said: That's exactly my problem, we get no clue as to her motivations until way after she starts messing up. Look at Lesson Zero, the episode most compared to ELTSD. We know right away why Twilight is panicking, as silly as it is, and we spend most of the episode focused on her panic attack. Very little time is spent on Twilights mess up. Now let’s look at ELTSD. We see Starlight’s panic attack, but get no inside look at why she’s panicking. The vast majority of the episode is focused on Starlight’s mistake instead of explaining why she’s resorting to magic. And the reason given at the end, that she’s afraid to disappoint anyone, is sugar coating her real fears and anxieties that have already been established earlier in the season. Starlight is terrified of rejection. When Twilight points out that Starlight hasn’t done any friendship lessons, Starlight starts to worry that Twilight is disappointed in her. And she worries that if Twilight is disappointed in her, she’ll give up on her entirely. So, looking to impress Twilight, she tries to do all of her friendship lessons at once. So we end up with Twilight looking more sympathetic, even though her reason for brainwashing an entire town is shit, while Starlight, who has a real, psychological reason to panic, looks worse. And not only that, but the fact she only could think of a spell and not for example talk about it with someone worried me. 1 If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 But Season 6 is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdadelta 1,462 November 18, 2017 Share November 18, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hierok said: Yeah, it definitly was a good episode for Starlight, but the way she immitiatly grabs her spellbooks was a little unrealistic for me. The only thing which bothered me so much until this day is how casual she was while she casting spell on HER FRIENDS, she even smirked, i am not a psychiatrist but that look like ... psycopathy, can anyone explain that part to me, its weird. In Lesson Zero, Twilight acted like a child molester when she casted her love spell but she was out of her mind at that point. Starlight, on the other hand, was not under the same pressure as Twilight and yet, Starlight just did it without any consideration, thats messed up (and awesome at the same time). ELTSD is a great episode to study Starlight character, its 'Everything wrong with Starlight Glimmer' episode, if anyone didn't understand her character after watching this ep at all, they didnt pay intention enough (in my opinion), this ep is evil nessesary. Edited November 18, 2017 by Lambdadelta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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