Anyone else feel like Hasbro has kinda given up on G5?

[WickedGames 171]

Anyone else feel like Hasbro has kinda given up on G5?

I mean the messed up Tell Your Tale schedule which has resulted in delays of episodes being release also the fact that they let a bunch of Tell Your Tale season 2 spolier concept art plus there is still more G4 toys and merchandise being made and advertised plus the lack of excitement for Tell Your Tale

I don’t know I think something is up 

[Misty Shadow 7,326]

We are still getting new G5 merch and there is definitely excitement for Season 2 of TYT. The new episodes have been pulling in very good views, far more consistent viewership than the time certain episodes from Season 1 would be sitting at well less than 100K views for months and months on end, and the new special got a lot of people talking about the show. The release schedule for Season 2 has certainly been perplexing and I would like more G5 merch, but it's just that everything has been crazy lately with the market being more unstable than ever. 

[Steve Piranha 29,374]

11 hours ago, Misty Shadow said:

We are still getting new G5 merch and there is definitely excitement for Season 2 of TYT. The new episodes have been pulling in very good views, far more consistent viewership than the time certain episodes from Season 1 would be sitting at well less than 100K views for months and months on end, and the new special got a lot of people talking about the show. The release schedule for Season 2 has certainly been perplexing and I would like more G5 merch, but it's just that everything has been crazy lately with the market being more unstable than ever. 

And just when they’ve FINALLY announced G5 merch I’m actually enthusiastic about 

[Iforgotmybrain 3,937]

I think it's just Hasbro being their usual incompetent selves. Feels like they always manage to muck things up with their IPs or business partners.

[Rafa Stary 1,658]

Well, I don't know if I can say much, I already made my post saying why I believe that G5 is approaching its end, but well, another week with no new TyT episode, now, that's just me, but TyT isn't giving me the feeling of being as important as it should be, not sure if it's because it's not a TV production, because its episodes are short or etc, even the 22 minute special didn't gave me the vibes of a major project like FiM, when I talked about the episode I praised it but I didn't talk about how it wasn't exactly what I expected from a "special", the episode seemed pretty ordinary for me, it was much better than the shorts but I still felt the fast format of the 4 minute episodes, it wasn't like MyM for me, when I watch TyT I feel like I'm watching the Equestria Girls shorts or the Pony Life episodes, and that is the only, the only animated production we have for this generation now.

Say what you want about MyM, but it's very apparent that the team behind that show tried their best to make it as impactful as FiM was. I just don't feel that with TyT, for me, they initially made TyT as a spin-off series, and I feel that they still have that goal in mind, but the show is meant to be the lead for this generation...i don't know, if all we are getting for G5 animated this year and 2025 is TyT with this same format of Story Telling...

Regarding the merchandise, well, I use MLP merch as source, and I don't think the G5 merch looks depressing, but I do think the G4 merch seems far stronger, not sure if that is because Hasbro gave the rights for many companies to make products based on G4, not sure how it works, but the G5 merch is lacking that presence for me.

Now if Hasbro indeed "gave up" on G5, I personally believe AT THE MOMENT that this is subjective, there are people like Misty Shadow who see this positively, thinking that what they are doing is enough and that this generation still has a lot to show and that its hype train won't stop. And at the same time there are people like me, I wouldn't exactly say that Hasbro "gave up" on G5, but I do think they don't seem that enthusiastic about it, and for me it goes beyond they being incompetent. They could be mostly continuing this generation to meet the deadline than to make something really big, I still have a strong feeling that they can't wait for April 2025, what they will do after that date I have no idea, but the generation is still feeling fillerish to me.

if MyM still had new episodes or if all the new episodes of TyT were 22 minutes long with a format more similar to MyM, I would think otherwise, but as it stands, I think this generation won't have much to show anymore, the other 3 specials? don't seem like they will do much justice in my opinion.

I don't know, I believe there's a strong possibility that Hasbro is more interested in what they're going to do with MLP in the spring of 2025 onwards and they're just not caring that much about what's coming in 2024.

Edited April 13 by Rafa Stary

[Sunny_Skyes 139]

In my opinion, TYT wasn't as good as Make Your Mark or FIM. Maybe it's nostalgia for the latter, not being used to the art style etc.

But to answer your question, it does seem like Hasbro doesn't want anything to do with its "Little Girl's" stuff anymore. First they redesign the LPS for no reason and now screw up the TYT schedules. I always thought it was bi-weekly tbh

[WickedGames 171]

15 hours ago, Rafa Stary said:

Well, I don't know if I can say much, I already made my post saying why I believe that G5 is approaching its end, but well, another week with no new TyT episode, now, that's just me, but TyT isn't giving me the feeling of being as important as it should be, not sure if it's because it's not a TV production, because its episodes are short or etc, even the 22 minute special didn't gave me the vibes of a major project like FiM, when I talked about the episode I praised it but I didn't talk about how it wasn't exactly what I expected from a "special", the episode seemed pretty ordinary for me, it was much better than the shorts but I still felt the fast format of the 4 minute episodes, it wasn't like MyM for me, when I watch TyT I feel like I'm watching the Equestria Girls shorts or the Pony Life episodes, and that is the only, the only animated production we have for this generation now.

Say what you want about MyM, but it's very apparent that the team behind that show tried their best to make it as impactful as FiM was. I just don't feel that with TyT, for me, they initially made TyT as a spin-off series, and I feel that they still have that goal in mind, but the show is meant to be the lead for this generation...i don't know, if all we are getting for G5 animated this year and 2025 is TyT with this same format of Story Telling...

Regarding the merchandise, well, I use MLP merch as source, and I don't think the G5 merch looks depressing, but I do think the G4 merch seems far stronger, not sure if that is because Hasbro gave the rights for many companies to make products based on G4, not sure how it works, but the G5 merch is lacking that presence for me.

Now if Hasbro indeed "gave up" on G5, I personally believe AT THE MOMENT that this is subjective, there are people like Misty Shadow who see this positively, thinking that what they are doing is enough and that this generation still has a lot to show and that its hype train won't stop. And at the same time there are people like me, I wouldn't exactly say that Hasbro "gave up" on G5, but I do think they don't seem that enthusiastic about it, and for me it goes beyond they being incompetent. They could be mostly continuing this generation to meet the deadline than to make something really big, I still have a strong feeling that they can't wait for April 2025, what they will do after that date I have no idea, but the generation is still feeling fillerish to me.

if MyM still had new episodes or if all the new episodes of TyT were 22 minutes long with a format more similar to MyM, I would think otherwise, but as it stands, I think this generation won't have much to show anymore, the other 3 specials? don't seem like they will do much justice in my opinion.

I don't know, I believe there's a strong possibility that Hasbro is more interested in what they're going to do with MLP in the spring of 2025 onwards and they're just not caring that much about what's coming in 2024.

Yeah feels like they want to reboot G4 when that comes around 

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

well i think they are giving up. i mean look at g4. they made like a couple movies based on different things. they font even hav a g5 version of EQG. and Sunny finding a new character and finding the same friends who are in that world. it feels like they are not gonna continue this at all. they don't have powers up really. they don't have a version of pony life of g5. i don't even think they are ever gonna find the Elements of Harmony but in little pieces at any point. I think there should be a movie of the 5 ponies at least getting power ups like the mane 6 did. there has to be another reason their not making these other shows or movies. they should at least make a movie about Twilight Sparkle at her castle where Sunny will find the castle. I mean what happened to the school of Friendship? where did that ever go? who moved in to Twilight's castle when g5 took over everyone's mind? something is fishy here. we know that Spike is in the Make Your Mark show. so where is Twilight? and was Luster Dawn ruling Equestria when Sunny was alive? did sunny ever find the portal to EQG? what happens? we gotta find out.

-TwilightSparkleSunny

[Rafa Stary 1,658]

TwilightSparkleSunny gave a interesting point, reminds me of something else I said a time ago. We've been getting G5 content for pretty much 3 years, now let's look back at how was G4 in its 3rd year:

1. Was finishing its 3rd Season and Starting the 4th Season.
2. Already presented many different places with many episodes taking place on them and exploring them such as Ponyville, Canterlot, Everfree Forest, Dragon Land, The Crystal Empire...
3. Presented many different characters with episodes focused on them (CMC, Luna, Trixie...)
4. Presented multiple different races (Dragons, Diamond Dogs, Changelings, Crystal Ponies...)
5. Introduced Twilight's brother, Cadance a New Alicorn Princess...
6. Made Twilight into a Alicorn and "complete" her studies with Celestia.
7. Presented more than 3 villains.
8. Got the Equestria Girls Spin-Off Movie.

That's what G4 was doing just in its 3rd Year, now let's see what G5 has done so far:

1. Presented its second new villain after Opaline.
2. Got a Movie (which was the startup for it) and two series, only one of them continues. 
3. Presented 3 different places (Maretime Bay, Zephyr Heights, Bridlewood), two of them were "forgotten", it later introduced two new places (Starlight Ridge, Isle of Scaly), so far they were only revisited for a very short time, they keep milking Maretime Bay.
4. Presented interesting mysteries surrounding the past, that have now simply been forgotten and remain unsolved.
5. Gave Sunny Alicorn powers, which remain a complete mystery.
6. Presented many different characters and made episodes about them in Make Your Mark (like Misty), Tell Your Tale did the same in its first Season (like the Dahlia episode), but then later it completely forgot about them (characters like Alphabittle, Queen Raven, Comet just disappeared), they keep milking the Main cast.
7. Introduced two races, The Auroricorns and the Dragons (and let's not forget that the animals, we still just keep seeing rabbits, crabs, birds and racooms with pony wings and horns, where are the other animals?)
8. Izzy goes in a adventure to meet a Seapony, that is meant to be very interesting but the scene doesn't even last 2 minutes.

That's G5 in its 3rd Year. Man, what's going on? TwilightSparkleSunny gave multiple ideas of what they could've done, I can give multiple ideas of what they can do, it doesn't even need to actually show much progress in the overall story, just give more content to this generation, more life, more exploring, it is...just lacking, that's why I was so confused when I saw one of the latest episodes "Cracket It" and the other members here liked it, while I was complaining that they could be making a interesting episode exploring the world or at least other characters instead of revisiting Maretime Bay again and the same characters and make them solve a puzzle that doesn't lead to anything relevant, I'm not asking for lore and worldbuilding every single episode, not even G4 did that, I'm just asking for something really interesting, and not a generic flip flop fast animaton for kids.

I like G5, I like TyT, I try to be positive about it and I wish the best for it, but I also need to be realistic about it, and the reality for me is that I feel Hasbro and the team behind it just doesn't seem to be trying anymore, as I said before, I do think they tried to deliver something really impactful in the movie and MyM, but now in TyT, so far?..., I remember that in my very first posts in this forum, after the Opaline arc ended, I said that I think maybe Hasbro gave up on trying to make this generation into a hit and it won't try to catch up the attention of older fans anymore, that's why the G4 references are gone and everything regarding the past is now ignored. I do think in the Movie and during the run of MyM, things were going well despite the problems, but after the Opaline arc ended, for me everything went downhill, no, I do like what came after it, but for me it just feels lacking, again, TyT is now the only animated production in this generation, and for me it's still feeling like a minor production, it's just not right, I don't know if they want to make things feel as sluggish as possible on purpose, but at this pace I really think this Generation won't have much to show in the future, it's already feeling worn out, that it already has shown what it had to offer. I did a little research and do you know where a lot of fans think that G4 started to feel outworn? In Seasons 6/7, and that was in 2016/2017, Years 6 and 7 of FiM, and we're just in year 3 of G5!

That's why I don't believe the other 3 22 Minutes TyT specials are going to do any justice for G5, based on how the first one was, it's just not enough, if they just made all TyT episodes be 22 minutes long or make a new 3D series...this generation is feeling fillerish now for me, don't want to say that they gave up on it, but there are strong indications that yes, they gave up, at least for me, now, if I feel that way, imagine the fans who don't like G5 

And oh well, again staying up late writing a huge text 

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

YES RAFA STARY! EXACTLY MY POINT!!

G4 Is A little bit more popular that G5 bc who knows if they make a more realistic movie of G5 as EQG. We don't know the future for G5 and more movies. Are the Dazzlings going to come back? or their desendants?

And TyT I can't even catch up on. they are so long I can't even focus on the screen. And here I am just sitting there like I'm a complete fool just sitting there thinking wait why am I watching this if I can just watch something else because this is too long.

But they can at least do something to make the G5 thing going on because kids are going to give up on watching G5 so what's the point of them making just new serieses and not having new movies like EQG. Because look at a question of girls They're really famous because it's G4 and a lot of people are thinking are they going to make it EQG version of G5.

Because people are already going on Google posting these other EQG version but of G5 i mean kids are not going to expect there's going to be a male main character as an equestrian boy i mean who would have thought of that? It's like the people that are making the G5 versions of EQG are thinking okay maybe let's make this up a little bit and make a version of G5 EQG maybe get Hasbro to make a G5 version of EQG because at least do that because it seems like that the people are making these pictures are forcing Hasbro it seems like to make any EQG version of G5. It just feels like that to me You know do you go what I mean?

But Rafa Stary does make a lot of points about G5 being different from G4. And how they could be more decent on G5 being more popular They need to focus on the popularity and the number of kids that are watching this show, but just to be clear a lot of people are going to think that they're going to do this, and they are not going to do this.

I mean look at Queen Haven look at Alphabetical and look at Comment from Starshine Time, they just disappeared I mean are people going to think where did they go did they go somewhere else or are they working with somebody to take down the main five I mean what are they going to do because it seems like that they're just going to keep that a secret and not do anything about it.

I mean not to be a spoiler or anything if you guys didn't watch the first series that came out After the movie but we all know that Misty's father meaning Alphabetal knows about her friends about her life now. I mean what happened to him after she moved in with her friends? Did he move out of Bridlewood Did he move anywhere else outside of Equestria Did he go anywhere? What happens to him? Did he meet somebody I mean we know that he's kind of being a little suspicious with Queen Haven. Even Zip and Pip don't like him being around their mom.

This is all getting mixed up with everything else I mean because they could at least do something with Canterlot and Twilight's castle.I mean is Sunny going to go out searching for her castle? Is she sent on a quest by some pony that we don't know from the future? is she going to go with her friends to go do something to the G4 version of Equestria?

I mean where did Ponyville go? Where did Clouds Dale go? I mean is Canterlot even still where it was before? Did somepony from the G4 move into Twilight's castle to stay there for some reason? I mean look at all the other sites about my own pony about sunny finding out who is at Twilight's castle like Discord could be there. Is she ever going to meet Flurry Heart as a full grown adult pony? Is she going to get into trouble with G4?

I mean, does Discord live longer than Fluttershy does because we know that they get married in the future at some point.  Who still lives on from Generation 4 in the new G5 version of Equestria? I mean who is Sunny's mom who are her grandparents? who are her great grandparents? because it goes on and on and on from Twilight to Sunny.

I mean look at Hitch and Sprout their brothers but their mom has to be a descendant of one of the main six from generation 4.

I mean who are Izzy's parents because we don't see any of her family from the past? I mean we all think princess Luna is her mom but that is impossible because Sunny is a descendant of Twilight that means is he has to be a descendant of Pinkie Pie but could be related to Princess Luna in some sort of way. But Pinkie Pie and Princess Luna are not related by family .They are just you know friends because they get their friendship from Twilight because Twilight is Princess of Friendship. She spreads friendship all across Equestria.

But look at Zip and Pip We don't know who their family is we don't even know who their dad is because it's not mentioned in the movie. We barely know the the five pony is parents well but they currently explain it in a separate show going from Twilight's family to Sunny's family. Or Izzy's parents. or hitch and sprouts dad because he's not mentioned at all. And look as if and pep we don't know their family either. 

So Hasbro is hiding something from everyone's family because they are not mentioned in the movie in the series in the other series or anything or in Starshine time. Something is definitely wrong about generation 5 because we don't even know their family we don't know what's going to happen Does sunny find Twilight's Castle does any pony go back to Canterlot I mean we don't know if Luster Dawn is still ruling Canterlot by the time Sunny and her friends are born.

Are Luster Dawn and Flurry Heart both ruling their Kingdoms? I mean we barely know about Cadence's family either We know little bit about shining armor's family but not so much Cadence I mean we know that Christmas is the evil side of Cadence but we don't know her parents we don't know her history we don't know anything about her. So anything that we don't know about some pony's family from generation 4 could lead to something very bad happening in generation 5. A lot of these different connections that we don't know about could really mess up generation 4 and  generation 5 being a show that everypony can love.

Going back to the 80's version of MLP. their G1 witch I don't know much about bc i wasn't born in the 80's to see it for myself. But all I know is that it's the same show but a little different. BUT Now I just saw that the 80's version of MLP have humans in it. HUMANS!! What the heck are Humans doing in the MLP world? I think they were already there. but Humans and Mlp are related bc Twilight went through a mirror to get to the HUMAN world!! the humans in the 80's MLP show could have made that mirror and seprated the humans from the MLP PONIES!! that could mean if they did make that mirror, that could have happened but wasn't supposed to. 

Tell me if I'm wrong on the human part. But that is a very rare explanation for humans in the 80's Mlp show. they could have somewhat known a future for a pony someone like Twilight Sparkle. but they didn't know if it was gonna be her or not. but they could have made that mirror portal to change the future for humans and ponies!! this could be the reason why there is no humans in Equestria.

or another thing, they could have had to make it to separate the humans from the ponies. these are just theories that I have between these different shows. G3 is the 80's show.

G3 ponies and humans were living in peace but then something must of gotten in the way like a villain! a villain could have made that portal with a villain human to make that portal to separate ponies from humans. then thoses villains could have gone back to their worlds and continued this chain of villains to conquer both human and pony sides of EQ. but then some pony, like royalty. generations later found the mirror and used it to find out what it was. But then came back to Equestria caring information from that world. And could have hidden it from every pony else in equestria. But who was this pony was a villain Generations later that wasn't doing evil duties. or was it a royal pony from the royal family? Like Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos could have went through that portal in Canterlot. one of them could have made their way to EQG world and went back with information from the world that they kept a secret. then year and years later Twilight is next to discover it. but who went in before Twilight? now I'm not gonna say Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos. but is Celestia and Luna knew about that other world. somepony must have told them about it. but who? it couldn't have been Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos.

because we all think that they are dead in their mid-princess life. It could have been Starswirl. but he would not have been born when that were only adults. he was alive when Celestia and Luna were full grown adults and Twilight was a young Alicorn mare. so I'm thinking that Starswirl could have found something from Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos info about the portal and must of had it somewhere to the point where Celestia or Luna could have found it and read up about it. and then years and years later Twilight is born, becomes an Alicorn, then is a Princess, then is to the point where she starts learning new stuff about the past, and about Starswirl, and Luna's History. I mean it got to the point where Celestia and Luna told Twilight about the portal but with her friends. could Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos had anypony else know about the portal except for Starswirl? Did Princess Celestia or Princess Luna go through the portal at all? Did Twilight ever tell Luster Dawn about anything of that world? who could have made that portal and made all this possable? 

but going back to everything else, I think Hasbro needs to have Luster Dawn be in a movie with Furry Heart, and needs Sunny and her Friends to know about the portal and they really need to have Sunny to into the portal and just feel an experience of something other than Opaline or the lantern or the Crystals. Now we all think that Twilight made the Crystals. but did she? is everything we learn about in the MyM show true? why wasn't Earth Pony Magic in the whole series in the first place?

there are unlimited Questions and answers about this. but I think that it will all be told someday. hopefully in the future soon enough. if there is anything I possibly could have missed let me know

-TwilightSparkleSunny

[PerlsteinProps 26,351]

There is a lot that was said in this thread that I agree with. I wouldn't say they've given up, but it certainly feels like they are not putting forth the effort it deserves. G5 can be good. Just look at the movie. Now it feels like they aren't pushing as hard for it. I have to be realistic and not expect too much. 

[Rafa Stary 1,658]

Woah you really wrote a lot of information there buddy  wait, It will take me some time to adress them:

6 hours ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

And TyT I can't even catch up on. they are so long I can't even focus on the screen. And here I am just sitting there like I'm a complete fool just sitting there thinking wait why am I watching this if I can just watch something else because this is too long.

I guess you meant that Tell Your Tale have too many episodes and the fact that all of them are short makes it tedious or annoying to watch them? If that's the case, them I understand it, when I had to watch TyT for the first time there already around 50 episodes released, it was kinda hard for me to go through all of them because it's just too fast, like a smoothie in a blender, my brain just couldn't process all of those short stories at once, I really think that was made for kids over anything else, they probably watch it with ease as they are used to such rushed animation, for me it's much easier to understand what's happening when I need to watch just one episode per week, the short format might be ideal for kids but for older folks like us I think it's just much better longer 22 minutes episodes, MyM is there for proof, I had to watch a lot of episodes of it all it once and for me it was easy to process them.

6 hours ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

G4 Is A little bit more popular that G5 bc who knows if they make a more realistic movie of G5 as EQG. We don't know the future for G5 and more movies. Are the Dazzlings going to come back? or their desendants?

But they can at least do something to make the G5 thing going on because kids are going to give up on watching G5 so what's the point of them making just new serieses and not having new movies like EQG. Because look at a question of girls They're really famous because it's G4 and a lot of people are thinking are they going to make it EQG version of G5.

Because people are already going on Google posting these other EQG version but of G5 i mean kids are not going to expect there's going to be a male main character as an equestrian boy i mean who would have thought of that? It's like the people that are making the G5 versions of EQG are thinking okay maybe let's make this up a little bit and make a version of G5 EQG maybe get Hasbro to make a G5 version of EQG because at least do that because it seems like that the people are making these pictures are forcing Hasbro it seems like to make any EQG version of G5. It just feels like that to me You know do you go what I mean

I understand your worries about Equestria Girls, but honestly I really don't see them making a EG G5 at any point in the future, I don't think they seem interested, this was the best we "got" so far: https://www.mlpmerch.com/2023/01/a-new-generation-of-equestria-girls-on.html

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This is all getting mixed up with everything else I mean because they could at least do something with Canterlot and Twilight's castle.I mean is Sunny going to go out searching for her castle? Is she sent on a quest by some pony that we don't know from the future? is she going to go with her friends to go do something to the G4 version of Equestria?

I mean where did Ponyville go? Where did Clouds Dale go? I mean is Canterlot even still where it was before? Did somepony from the G4 move into Twilight's castle to stay there for some reason? I mean look at all the other sites about my own pony about sunny finding out who is at Twilight's castle like Discord could be there. Is she ever going to meet Flurry Heart as a full grown adult pony? Is she going to get into trouble with G4?

I mean, does Discord live longer than Fluttershy does because we know that they get married in the future at some point. 

There is a comic where Sunny, Izzy, Pipp, Zipp and Hitch try to discover more about the old Equestria, I still need to read that comic, but I already saw some spoilers of it, and, you are in interested:

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They explained what happened to Discord, he's still alive and clearly depressed because Fluttershy passed away, they also visit several places from the Old Equestria, like Canterlot, they're all abandoned.

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Who still lives on from Generation 4 in the new G5 version of Equestria?

We Saw Spike and the Dragons, also, probably, Discord, Twilight, Celestia, Luna, Cadance, Flurry Heart, Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow, unless they were all killed.

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I mean who is Sunny's mom who are her grandparents? who are her great grandparents?

I mean who are Izzy's parents because we don't see any of her family from the past? 

But look at Zip and Pip We don't know who their family is we don't even know who their dad is because it's not mentioned in the movie. Or Izzy's parents. or hitch and sprouts dad because he's not mentioned at all. And look as if and pep we don't know their family either. 

To be fair, FiM took Seasons and Seasons to introduce us to Fluttershy's, Rainbow Dash's and specially Applejack's parents, so for me is totally possible that Hitch's Father, Izzy's Parents, Pipp & Zipp's Father and Sunny's mother are still going to be show in the future.

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I mean we all think princess Luna is her mom but that is impossible because Sunny is a descendant of Twilight that means is he has to be a descendant of Pinkie Pie but could be related to Princess Luna in some sort of way. But Pinkie Pie and Princess Luna are not related by family .They are just you know friends because they get their friendship from Twilight because Twilight is Princess of Friendship. She spreads friendship all across Equestria.

Hmmm whaaat? As far as I know, nothing suggests that Sunny or Argyle are descendants of Twilight, did I miss something?

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I mean we don't know if Luster Dawn is still ruling Canterlot by the time Sunny and her friends are born.

Are Luster Dawn and Flurry Heart both ruling their Kingdoms?

I also don't remember of it being said anywhere that Luster Dawn ruled Canterlot after Twilight.

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we know that Christmas is the evil side of Cadence

I think you meant "Chrysalis is the evil side of Cadance", and what? Evil side of Cadance? Cadance and Chrysalis are completely unrelated as far as I know.

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Going back to the 80's version of MLP. their G1 witch I don't know much about bc i wasn't born in the 80's to see it for myself. But all I know is that it's the same show but a little different. BUT Now I just saw that the 80's version of MLP have humans in it. HUMANS!! What the heck are Humans doing in the MLP world? I think they were already there. but Humans and Mlp are related bc Twilight went through a mirror to get to the HUMAN world!! the humans in the 80's MLP show could have made that mirror and seprated the humans from the MLP PONIES!! that could mean if they did make that mirror, that could have happened but wasn't supposed to. 

Tell me if I'm wrong on the human part. But that is a very rare explanation for humans in the 80's Mlp show. they could have somewhat known a future for a pony someone like Twilight Sparkle. but they didn't know if it was gonna be her or not. but they could have made that mirror portal to change the future for humans and ponies!! this could be the reason why there is no humans in Equestria.

or another thing, they could have had to make it to separate the humans from the ponies. these are just theories that I have between these different shows. G3 is the 80's show.

G3 ponies and humans were living in peace but then something must of gotten in the way like a villain! a villain could have made that portal with a villain human to make that portal to separate ponies from humans. then thoses villains could have gone back to their worlds and continued this chain of villains to conquer both human and pony sides of EQ. but then some pony, like royalty. generations later found the mirror and used it to find out what it was. But then came back to Equestria caring information from that world. And could have hidden it from every pony else in equestria. But who was this pony was a villain Generations later that wasn't doing evil duties.

I know what you tried to do here, and I thought it was a interesting idea, but G1, G3 and G4 are completely unconnected, they are all separate universes (reboots), you can try to say that a villain or someone else used magic to make all ponies forget that humans existed, but nah, it just doesn't work, also, while Equestria Girls isn't exactly "non canon", the events of the movies, specials and shorts are completely ignored by the main series (Friendship is Magic), they never mention the Mirror or the events in Canterlot Highschool, they never show anything about it, Equestria Girls pretty much exists as its own thing.

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or was it a royal pony from the royal family? Like Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos could have went through that portal in Canterlot. one of them could have made their way to EQG world and went back with information from the world that they kept a secret. then year and years later Twilight is next to discover it. but who went in before Twilight? now I'm not gonna say Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos. but is Celestia and Luna knew about that other world. somepony must have told them about it. but who? it couldn't have been Queen Galaxia or King Cosmos.

Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos???? Aren't these characters non-official characters created by the fans??? 

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but going back to everything else, I think Hasbro needs to have Luster Dawn be in a movie with Furry Heart, and needs Sunny and her Friends to know about the portal and they really need to have Sunny to into the portal and just feel an experience of something other than Opaline or the lantern or the Crystals. Now we all think that Twilight made the Crystals. but did she? is everything we learn about in the MyM show true? why wasn't Earth Pony Magic in the whole series in the first place?

there are unlimited Questions and answers about this. but I think that it will all be told someday. hopefully in the future soon enough. if there is anything I possibly could have missed let me know

Now I need to tell you about something you're probably not aware of, Hasbro's contract with Discovery Family, for over a decade Discovery Family owns partial content of G4, characters, stories, places, etc, and that contract will only expire in March 2025, for now, Hasbro is limited to use little things from G4 in G5, we know they could use Twilight (only pre-End of G4 appearance), Spike (with a different appearance), but they probably can't show other stuff like characters as Starlight Glimmer (that's why I was almost sure she wouldn't show up in Secrets of Starlight), they probably can't show or use a lot of stuff from G4, Luster Dawn and Flurry heart being one of them.

They'll need to wait until March 2025 to use these characters.

Also, now that you made a theory connecting 3 different reboot generations, I also need to tell you about something, in one of the latest Tell Your Tale episodes, they introduced Misty's Room, a room with stained glass showing images of events from G5, G1 and G4, (G1 Tirek, The Smooze, Mane Six defeating Nightmare Moon, Luna & Celestia defeating Discord, Cadance and Shining Armor), some theorized that this may hint on a multiverse, that means, a crossover of the generations!

Idk, these stuff really make me curious that's why I continue watching TyT, of course, I also want something fun, but the way they are doing it...there's something weird going on, idk, I said that in another topic, and I'll repeat it here, I think they are actually more interested about what they'll be doing in 2025.

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

Wow Rafa Stary. I guess I missed a few things that u put that i meant to put but was too busy doing portal theories. going to humans. yeah i guess i never thought about the humans not knowing of the portal bc in my theory whoever did make that portal to the human side of EQ, they probably never told anyone and kept it a secret.but also, the person in my theory who did make that portal, could have brought magic from EQ to EQG and used it to erase anyone's mind so no one would remember who did or what happened. but also in the g1 g4 and g5, they were not really connected bc there was never a g2 or g3 mentioned in the series. so that never really made sense to me. And for Cadance and Crystals being connected. It's because they were not meant to be related, just by evil and not evil. and TyT yeah your right about that because what u said was what i meant to say but in a different way. (that rhymed lol) if there is anything I could have missed you can email me in my inbox. or whatever its called. lol. 

-TwilightSparkleSunny 

[WickedGames 171]

15 hours ago, Rafa Stary said:

Woah you really wrote a lot of information there buddy  wait, It will take me some time to adress them:

I guess you meant that Tell Your Tale have too many episodes and the fact that all of them are short makes it tedious or annoying to watch them? If that's the case, them I understand it, when I had to watch TyT for the first time there already around 50 episodes released, it was kinda hard for me to go through all of them because it's just too fast, like a smoothie in a blender, my brain just couldn't process all of those short stories at once, I really think that was made for kids over anything else, they probably watch it with ease as they are used to such rushed animation, for me it's much easier to understand what's happening when I need to watch just one episode per week, the short format might be ideal for kids but for older folks like us I think it's just much better longer 22 minutes episodes, MyM is there for proof, I had to watch a lot of episodes of it all it once and for me it was easy to process them.

I understand your worries about Equestria Girls, but honestly I really don't see them making a EG G5 at any point in the future, I don't think they seem interested, this was the best we "got" so far: https://www.mlpmerch.com/2023/01/a-new-generation-of-equestria-girls-on.html

There is a comic where Sunny, Izzy, Pipp, Zipp and Hitch try to discover more about the old Equestria, I still need to read that comic, but I already saw some spoilers of it, and, you are in interested:

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They explained what happened to Discord, he's still alive and clearly depressed because Fluttershy passed away, they also visit several places from the Old Equestria, like Canterlot, they're all abandoned.

We Saw Spike and the Dragons, also, probably, Discord, Twilight, Celestia, Luna, Cadance, Flurry Heart, Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow, unless they were all killed.

To be fair, FiM took Seasons and Seasons to introduce us to Fluttershy's, Rainbow Dash's and specially Applejack's parents, so for me is totally possible that Hitch's Father, Izzy's Parents, Pipp & Zipp's Father and Sunny's mother are still going to be show in the future.

Hmmm whaaat? As far as I know, nothing suggests that Sunny or Argyle are descendants of Twilight, did I miss something?

I also don't remember of it being said anywhere that Luster Dawn ruled Canterlot after Twilight.

I think you meant "Chrysalis is the evil side of Cadance", and what? Evil side of Cadance? Cadance and Chrysalis are completely unrelated as far as I know.

I know what you tried to do here, and I thought it was a interesting idea, but G1, G3 and G4 are completely unconnected, they are all separate universes (reboots), you can try to say that a villain or someone else used magic to make all ponies forget that humans existed, but nah, it just doesn't work, also, while Equestria Girls isn't exactly "non canon", the events of the movies, specials and shorts are completely ignored by the main series (Friendship is Magic), they never mention the Mirror or the events in Canterlot Highschool, they never show anything about it, Equestria Girls pretty much exists as its own thing.

Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos???? Aren't these characters non-official characters created by the fans??? 

Now I need to tell you about something you're probably not aware of, Hasbro's contract with Discovery Family, for over a decade Discovery Family owns partial content of G4, characters, stories, places, etc, and that contract will only expire in March 2025, for now, Hasbro is limited to use little things from G4 in G5, we know they could use Twilight (only pre-End of G4 appearance), Spike (with a different appearance), but they probably can't show other stuff like characters as Starlight Glimmer (that's why I was almost sure she wouldn't show up in Secrets of Starlight), they probably can't show or use a lot of stuff from G4, Luster Dawn and Flurry heart being one of them.

They'll need to wait until March 2025 to use these characters.

Also, now that you made a theory connecting 3 different reboot generations, I also need to tell you about something, in one of the latest Tell Your Tale episodes, they introduced Misty's Room, a room with stained glass showing images of events from G5, G1 and G4, (G1 Tirek, The Smooze, Mane Six defeating Nightmare Moon, Luna & Celestia defeating Discord, Cadance and Shining Armor), some theorized that this may hint on a multiverse, that means, a crossover of the generations!

Idk, these stuff really make me curious that's why I continue watching TyT, of course, I also want something fun, but the way they are doing it...there's something weird going on, idk, I said that in another topic, and I'll repeat it here, I think they are actually more interested about what they'll be doing in 2025.

Alicorns were never confirmed immortal and we don’t if alicorns like Twilight live as long as Luna and Celestia so I don’t understand people think we should see them automatically 

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

Well, Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos were beleved to be made up by fans, but they are well known because they are the parents of Princess Celestia and Luna. 

[Rafa Stary 1,658]

6 hours ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

Wow Rafa Stary. I guess I missed a few things that u put that i meant to put but was too busy doing portal theories. going to humans. yeah i guess i never thought about the humans not knowing of the portal bc in my theory whoever did make that portal to the human side of EQ, they probably never told anyone and kept it a secret.but also, the person in my theory who did make that portal, could have brought magic from EQ to EQG and used it to erase anyone's mind so no one would remember who did or what happened. but also in the g1 g4 and g5, they were not really connected bc there was never a g2 or g3 mentioned in the series. so that never really made sense to me. And for Cadance and Crystals being connected. It's because they were not meant to be related, just by evil and not evil. and TyT yeah your right about that because what u said was what i meant to say but in a different way. (that rhymed lol) if there is anything I could have missed you can email me in my inbox. or whatever its called. lol. 

-TwilightSparkleSunny 

Equestria Girls has a lot of mysteries that hey never tried to explore or explain, the portal being one of them, unfortunately they never made EQG have any sort of relevance for the main series, I think the best we had was the Dazzlings showing up in Season 7, but what happened to them after they were sent to the human world is completely irrelevant for the main series, unfortunately that made EQG unable of telling any stories that connects itself with regular Equestria.

4 hours ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

Well, Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos were beleved to be made up by fans, but they are well known because they are the parents of Princess Celestia and Luna. 

I think Celestia and Luna parents were never even mentioned?

4 hours ago, WickedGames said:

Alicorns were never confirmed immortal and we don’t if alicorns like Twilight live as long as Luna and Celestia so I don’t understand people think we should see them automatically 

I said that before and I'll repeat, no one said they are immortal, what we can be sure of is that Celestia and Luna might still be alive, good and healthy, because of Opaline, she's around the same age as them and look at her, plus, if Celestia, someone who can live for more than a millennium, gave her position of ruler of Equestria to Twilight, then it's because Twilight as a Alicorn probably also lives for a long time. Also no one is saying they should appear, just because someone might still be alive doesn't mean they'll show up.

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

Well Rafa Stary I never said they had to show up in the series but I could at least have been nice for them to at least mention them. meaning Luster Dawn or Flurry Heart. Because in the series they never mentioned those two at all. But then again they never really mentioned Princess Cadence or Shining Armor or that family either. Plus we don't know much about Princess Cadence's family So it could be a coincidence that they may not be able to show up in the series because they're never really mentioned. But then again they don't have to be mentioned to show up. And we don't know if Princess Cadence's mom is still alive or any of her family. Because a lot of shows do that where someone is not mentioned and then they show up.I mean Princess Luna Princess could still be alive because who knows if hopefully knows them or not She probably does because look at her backstory part of it went in the series of her and Princess Luna Celestia.When they were younger they seem pretty close because looking at that part of her backstory that is also a part that we could have missed. But who knows maybe someone from the royal chain may be mentioned later on in the series but who knows they don't mention any pony else. So that could mean that the show may not mention anyone at all. But who knows what my little pony will hold later on.

[Rafa Stary 1,658]

1 hour ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

I mean Princess Luna Princess could still be alive because who knows if hopefully knows them or not She probably does because look at her backstory part of it went in the series of her and Princess Luna Celestia.When they were younger they seem pretty close because looking at that part of her backstory that is also a part that we could have missed. 

They probably are still alive, if in the flashback it was shown that they're around the same age as Opaline, and Opaline was still alive, then they must still be somewhere, hiding, I don't know, unless someone killed them, I really don't think they would show Cadance's parents though.

[WickedGames 171]

19 hours ago, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

Well Rafa Stary I never said they had to show up in the series but I could at least have been nice for them to at least mention them. meaning Luster Dawn or Flurry Heart. Because in the series they never mentioned those two at all. But then again they never really mentioned Princess Cadence or Shining Armor or that family either. Plus we don't know much about Princess Cadence's family So it could be a coincidence that they may not be able to show up in the series because they're never really mentioned. But then again they don't have to be mentioned to show up. And we don't know if Princess Cadence's mom is still alive or any of her family. Because a lot of shows do that where someone is not mentioned and then they show up.I mean Princess Luna Princess could still be alive because who knows if hopefully knows them or not She probably does because look at her backstory part of it went in the series of her and Princess Luna Celestia.When they were younger they seem pretty close because looking at that part of her backstory that is also a part that we could have missed. But who knows maybe someone from the royal chain may be mentioned later on in the series but who knows they don't mention any pony else. So that could mean that the show may not mention anyone at all. But who knows what my little pony will hold later on.

I wonder if the writers of G5 even think Flurry Heart is really that important of a character?

[Steve Piranha 29,374]

It kinda seems that way . However, I do remember Hasbro mentioning ponies as one of their top three properties, but they may as well can’t wait for the license with DF to expire in order to reboot G4. One thing for sure is Hasbro is in financial trouble. Wizards of the Coast is losing money, same with Hasbro itself with tons of unsold licensed Disney property toys in Kathleen Kennedy’s Star Wars and the M-she-U 

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

On 2024-04-19 at 11:53 AM, WickedGames said:

I wonder if the writers of G5 even think Flurry Heart is really that important of a character?

well, Flurry Heart is kinda important because she is a natural born alicorn. in a way she kinda is but is not at the same time. shes not really mentioned in the series. so you could say she is not really important 

[FirePuppy 653]

Hasbro's revenue has also dropped to $4.76 billion, their lowest since early 2020:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/HAS/hasbro/revenue

[TwilightSparkleSunny 75]

2 hours ago, FirePuppy said:

Hasbro's revenue has also dropped to $4.76 billion, their lowest since early 2020:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/HAS/hasbro/revenue

wow!! I'm surprised they lost that much money! they definitely have to do something about that!

[FirePuppy 653]

On 2024-04-26 at 10:08 AM, TwilightSparkleSunny said:

wow!! I'm surprised they lost that much money! they definitely have to do something about that!

And it's only gonna get worse. If Hasbro's revenue total for Q2 2024 is less than $1.016 billion, that will result in their annual revenue dropping to their lowest since April 2016.

[Steve Piranha 29,374]

Hasbro swapping banners from G5 to G4 in their official pony channel isn’t reassuring