ooc Equestria Divided (Grimdark)

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Spell can try to cast illusion spell on lightning to make it seems like she has a horn. and she is covered with her cape... but it would be very risque due to their nature, it could cause.. implications. should i try?

I was going to teleport us out. (Though not very far) Unless Star has an idea. Just type whatever you want reguardin' what going on in Spells or Lightnings mind or if they said anything or whatever. You know. I just didn't want to type too much. We don't need Scourge appearing... yet. There will be plenty of time for that later. Heheheheh

[Spell Shock 56]

It's a little chance, actually.

Well... it depends on the size. Tiny are common but they are harmless, while something big-medium is well, that needs some actual luck and other things. 

 

But yeah, Spell and Lightning arent very law obyding, so yeah...

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

Incoming Stormwing attack. If you're not ready to be crushed just yet then that's just too bad then.

Earthborn Rangers > Pegasi. Cannons loaded with airburst rounds > Pegasi. Juggernauts and Ponies-At-Arms on the ground > Pegasi.

 

Keep trying, Stormwing, you'll get there.

 

That reminds me, would we be able to incorporate the Ember chappy from my backstory into this battle? He's something of a Berserk Button for Fixit so we can see him flip out big time.

[Spell Shock 56]

One powerful unicorn who knows how to cause destruction and stay hidden and covered > when most of normal forces. It's just what we have to nerf magic for fairness. 

[GreyScholar 1,584]

One powerful unicorn who knows how to cause destruction and stay hidden and covered > when most of normal forces. It's just what we have to nerf magic for fairness. 

Most unicorns < most forces of the six factions and even well trained unicorns would be =/> most forces of the six factions.

 

Spell, it takes time and training to become good at magic and even then there limits like how many and how powerful the spell can be compared to the unicorns endurance and training.

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Edit: nevermind on the second part

 

One powerful unicorn who knows how to cause destruction and stay hidden and covered > when most of normal forces. It's just what we have to nerf magic for fairness. 

Also magic is not being nerfed, we are being realistic with it thus why you don't have unicorns throwing fire balls at ponies left and right or mind controlling them.

Edited March 8, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Realistic and magic do not sentence well in one line, Gray. You of all people should know it, since your character can make a way to fireballs to go around with his power. Sooooo, yeah

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Most unicorns < most forces of the six factions and even well trained unicorns would be =/> most forces of the six factions.

 

Spell, it takes time and training to become good at magic and even then there limits like how many and how powerful the spell can be compared to the unicorns endurance and training.

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Edit: nevermind on the second part

 

Also magic is not being nerfed, we are being realistic with it thus why you don't have unicorns throwing fire balls at ponies left and right or mind controlling them.

Well just to comment on all of this you are going to see some OP magic (Or at least some may say OP) in this upcoming battle with Moon and Star and Earthborn. That is only because 2 Vanguard are being deployed. Two. Yeah. Even One is pretty overpowered. (Sorry discorded but you might be obliterated.)

Twilight doesn't want to take any gambles, she far to busy with Hoofington. 

Edited March 8, 2013 by AnonBrony

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Realistic and magic do not sentence well in one line, Gray. You of all people should know it, since your character can make a way to fireballs to go around with his power. Sooooo, yeah

Remember his focus is illusion based magic and transportation magic, the most he could he is teleport out of the way of attacks... magic or otherwise.

 

Well just to comment on all of this you are going to see some OP magic (Or at least some may say OP) in this upcoming battle with Moon and Star and Earthborn. That is only because 2 Vanguard are being deployed. Two. Yeah. Even One is pretty overpowered. (Sorry discorded but you might be obliterated.)

Twilight doesn't want to take any gambles, she far to busy with Hoofington. 

Well remember Vanguards are a very rare and focused group, and do you honestly think Applejack wouldn't have come up with ways to counter magic?

Edited March 8, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Countering magic without science is ridicolous, countering magic with science while being nazin is even more ridicolous.

The theme of magic isnt like "Every sillecan block it, not every silly can master it"

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Countering magic without science is ridicolous, countering magic with science while being nazin is even more ridicolous.

The theme of magic isnt like "Every sillecan block it, not every silly can master it"

Applejack is not just any pony, she is smart and also understands Twilight's capabilities as her former friend (which can also work the other way around). She would find ways of making magic less effective, and to balance it even farther skilled unicorns are still uncommon.

 

It takes years to become good at magic, and the use of magic takes up energy so a unicorn couldn't go hours casting spells left and right.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Remember is focus is illusion based magic and transportation magic, the most he could he is teleport out of the way of attacks... magic or otherwise.

 

Well remember Vanguards are a very rare and focused group, and do you honestly think Applejack wouldn't have come up with ways to counter magic?

Probably. But i think Big Mac is controlin' this Army. But Anyway that's not the point. The Army is about 500 ponies. A Larger normal sized Earthborn maybe able to withstand a chance.  And yeah i know they are rare. There are only 12 in the whole house. So they are pretty strong. 

[Spell Shock 56]

Okay, let me get it straight - she is not a unicorn. Big Mac is not unicorn. The soldiers are not unicorns. They snip horns on sight as soon as possible. HOW IN THE HELL, she can came u p w i t h a n y t h i n g working against magic is she isn't even has any possibiity to research on her own? She wouldnt be interested in magic back in the day and being an earth pony, how you fancy explaining me she will make anti-magical uber thing? When, i not seeing a earth pony for a mouth should be able to create something to make them weaker, with that logic. Thats what's i find ridicolous.

 

I can pick up a gun, an object of matter and research it. Earth pony cant pick magic, as it ethereal thing.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Spell Shock

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Okay, let me get it straight - she is not a unicorn. Big Mac is not unicorn. The soldiers are not unicorns. They snip horns on sight as soon as possible. HOW IN THE HELL, she can came u p w i t h a n y t h i n g working against magic is she isn't even has any possibiity to research on her own? She wouldnt be interested in magic back in the day and being an earth pony, how you fancy explaining me she will make anti-magical uber thing? When, i not seeing a earth pony for a mouth should be able to create something to make them weaker, with that logic. Thats what's i find ridicolous.

 

I can pick up a gun, an object of matter and research it. Earth pony cant pick magic, as it ethereal thing.

Spell Shock these are the facts of the setting, if magic was as powerful as you seem to think the battle would have already been won. Instead of complaining about it make the canon of this setting work. Your come up with a reasonable explaination on how Applejack would be able to combat the magic of House Moon and Star.

Edited March 8, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Not fight them? That's the plot hole, that's Yourik's problem not mine. I just hate how every setting nerfs unicorns to garbage, while leaving everyone else untouched and better off. So, one have guns and tech, also they nerf magic with some thing. Others can fly and use some kind of magic, also well they fly and do that. And unicorns... can't cast to save their lifes, pretty much, at least most of them.

 

So, they are pretty much THE crappies race.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

They are not supposed to be weak, if you have a better why of balancing everything tell me. How would you suggest making sure all three races are equal to each other Spell Shock, as it is fact that unicorns are no better then pegasus and earth ponies as it is fact that earth ponies are not the weakest race.

 

How would you go about making House Earthborn equal to House Moon and Star?

Edited March 8, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Spell, you are not a soldier, you are not a Mod, you are not part of Earthborn. Just Sit tight and let things flow. I'm pretty sure we can figure out how to make things equal.

 

Thing is though, i just want to say this first battle with Moon and Star may well, "glorify" magic. Under normal circumstances i won't go the OP route. Especially considering Earthborn is using a smallish Army (for their standards) and Are attacking the capital of the House.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

They are not supposed to be weak, if you have a better why of balancing everything tell me. How would you suggest making sure all three races are equal to each other Spell Shock, as it is fact that unicorns are no better then pegasus and earth ponies as it is fact that earth ponies are not the weakest race.

 

How would you go about making House Earthborn equal to House Moon and Star?

 

Spell, you are not a soldier, you are not a Mod, you are not part of Earthborn. Just Sit tight and let things flow. I'm pretty sure we can figure out how to make things equal.

 

Thing is though, i just want to say this first battle with Moon and Star may well, "glorify" magic. Under normal circumstances i won't go the OP route. Especially considering Earthborn is using a smallish Army (for their standards) and Are attacking the capital of the House.

As long as it doesn't undermine what I just told Spell I am okay with whatever you have planned.

[Spell Shock 56]

Gray, you have a misunderstanding. You are the one who supposed to balance things out. You never do, when i point out flaws. You just ask me to do it and when ignore everything i suggest, so i wont even bother. It was annoying back when i would think it would not get any less annoying now.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Gray, you have a misunderstanding. You are the one who supposed to balance things out. You never do, when i point out flaws. You just ask me to do it and when ignore everything i suggest, so i wont even bother. It was annoying back when i would think it would not get any less annoying now.

If I have ignored you I apoligize, but if you have ideas I would be happy to hear them. I honestly don't see a problem, which is way I have seen no reason to explain what you see as balancing issues.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Gray, you have a misunderstanding. You are the one who supposed to balance things out. You never do, when i point out flaws. You just ask me to do it and when ignore everything i suggest, so i wont even bother. It was annoying back when i would think it would not get any less annoying now.

He does have us know ya know. Hes not Controlling the whole thing. Its sort of collaborative effort. We do have a Mod PM ya know. We do spit around ideas there.

 

How about we just end this stupid arguement before somepony does something they will regret hm?

[Spell Shock 56]

You never see issues with balancing. Whatever, i'm just gonna make a list of all the times the problem was a big deal and will post it when it ends or dies. I wonder how long it will get, as it usually does. I'm totally ripping off every body of Earthborn so i can get hoofes on their silly mobile cannons. I guess magic is completely useless.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

You never see issues with balancing. Whatever, i'm just gonna make a list of all the times the problem was a big deal and will post it when it ends or dies. I wonder how long it will get, as it usually does. I'm totally ripping off every body of Earthborn so i can get hoofes on their silly mobile cannons. I guess magic is completely useless.

Spell no!

I swear you cause problems I will remove you from the roleplay, this is childish and if your not going to handle this maturally I will do what I don't want to have to do.

[Spell Shock 56]

Yes, i behave myself childish because you behave yourself ignorant, as always. You always just brush off an potential problems, which when goes and shatters in peaces. You dont even realise how annoying it is. Far more annoying when you know, that's for certaint.

 

Do what you want, i don't care anymore. The bandwagon has left long ago.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Spell no!

I swear you cause problems I will remove you from the roleplay, this is childish and if your not going to handle this maturally I will do what I don't want to have to do.

 

 

You never see issues with balancing. Whatever, i'm just gonna make a list of all the times the problem was a big deal and will post it when it ends or dies. I wonder how long it will get, as it usually does. I'm totally ripping off every body of Earthborn so i can get hoofes on their silly mobile cannons. I guess magic is completely useless.

Now those are the Thing i said People might regret saying now.

 

So Spell. Forget this whole thing. they may be an occasional problem here and there but you shouldn't really worry 'bout it too much. Let us focus on it. Thing are only still beginning. We have no idea how Mages vs. Non mages will work. And don't cause any problems yourself now ya 'ere?

 

And Same with you Scholar. End This discussion.

 

 

Yes, i behave myself childish because you behave yourself ignorant, as always. You always just brush off an potential problems, which when goes and shatters in peaces. You dont even realise how annoying it is. Far more annoying when you know, that's for certaint.

 

Do what you want, i don't care anymore. The bandwagon has left long ago.

Drop it Spell. Now.

Edited March 8, 2013 by AnonBrony

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Sighs, sometimes I wonder if I should have offered she join...

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Spell whenever you have concerns and/or ideas please tell myself or one of my moderators. I will then discuss with them possible answers, and see if your ideas will fit into this setting.