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[ShadOBabe 18,997]

Good old public school for this girl. XD

[I used to be a stranger 7,993]

Good old public school for this girl. XD

 I also was subject to this!

[brsajo 162]

Same here. Public school for me

[Sudo Krenton 243]

Kind of curious here... Why do some atheist loath religion to the point that they want to fight to the death in trying to rid the world of it? I understand that people have a right to believe in what they wish(for the most part), but why abolish something that has good moral values? The average religion does not limit the wanderings of the human mind to explore the unknown, nor does it force anyone to do anything. Sure it may dictate that "XYZ is bad" and "Go to church on Sundays," but it doesn't have probationary officers going after people, making sure we actually obey the rules.

 

I know that religious equality cannot exist, but I am dumbfounded as to why some atheists hold such a bitter grudge against religion.

 

.... just wondering about your thoughts on this. ;P

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[LittleMac 3,085]

Kind of curious here... Why do some atheist loath religion to the point that they want to fight to the death in trying to rid the world of it? I understand that people have a right to believe in what they wish(for the most part), but why abolish something that has good moral values? The average religion does not limit the wanderings of the human mind to explore the unknown, nor does it force anyone to do anything. Sure it may dictate that "XYZ is bad" and "Go to church on Sundays," but it doesn't have probationary officers going after people, making sure we actually obey the rules.

 

I know that religious equality cannot exist, but I am dumbfounded as to why some atheists hold such a bitter grudge against religion.

 

.... just wondering about your thoughts on this. ;P

Likely because those kind of atheists would think of religion as oppressing people for the sake of power. They think theyre doing good the same way we think we're doing good

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

Kind of curious here... Why do some atheist loath religion to the point that they want to fight to the death in trying to rid the world of it? I understand that people have a right to believe in what they wish(for the most part), but why abolish something that has good moral values? The average religion does not limit the wanderings of the human mind to explore the unknown, nor does it force anyone to do anything. Sure it may dictate that "XYZ is bad" and "Go to church on Sundays," but it doesn't have probationary officers going after people, making sure we actually obey the rules.

 

I would call those "anti-theists" not atheists. Many atheists I've spoken to are not so militantly opposed to faith organizations. Yes though, they have been a thorn at my side and a source of constant ire in my life.

 

 

 

I know that religious equality cannot exist, but I am dumbfounded as to why some atheists hold such a bitter grudge against religion.

 

Whoa, says who? Two of my neighbors growing up were Hindu and Jewish, we got a long just fine and we even attended the latter's bar mitzvah. 

[Sudo Krenton 243]

Whoa, says who?

 

My mistake, I should have said that religions cannot "fully co-exist."

 

Well, each religion claims that they have a different god that they believe in, and that those "other gods from other religions" are false or that or that some fact is true and the other is false. Logically, only one could exist, or none can, because they would cancel each other out. Yes, people with different beliefs can live "harmoniously" in varying degrees, but that doesn't change logic with the fact that religions cannot fully co-exist.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Steel Accord 6,660]

My mistake, I should have said that religions cannot "co-exist."

 

Well, each religion claims that they have a different god that they believe in, and that those "other gods from other religions" are false or that or that some fact is true and the other is false. Logically, only one could exist, or none can, because they would cancel each other out. Yes, people with different beliefs can live "harmoniously" in varying degrees, but that doesn't change logic with the fact that religions cannot co-exist.

 

I disagree. We can all have our respective theologies, be faithful to them, but not disparage another's faith at once.

 

. . . . Plus you know syncretism is a thing right?

[Sudo Krenton 243]

I disagree. We can all have our respective theologies, be faithful to them, but not disparage another's faith at once.

There's a difference between having your own beliefs and letting others have theirs, and religions co-existing. Maybe you're looking at a broader scope of this "co-existing." I was referring more to the nit-picking e.g. Muslim beliefs versus Christian beliefs on Jesus.

 

 

. . . . Plus you know syncretism is a thing right?

Yes, and I disapprove of it in varying degrees.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

There's a difference between having your own beliefs and letting others have theirs, and religions co-existing. Maybe you're looking at a broader scope of this "co-existing." I was referring more to the nit-picking e.g. Muslim beliefs versus Christian beliefs on Jesus.

 

Yes, I suppose I was. I believe your intended message was that "specific theologies cannot co-exist."

 

 

 

Yes, and I disapprove of it in varying degrees.

 

As a syncretist, what am I supposed to say to that? 

[Sudo Krenton 243]

As a syncretist, what am I supposed to say to that? 

Whatever you want, I suppose. Do you feel that you need to say something in regards to my opinion? If so, I don't mind. I'm not going to hate on you for it.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Miles 2,512]

 

Speaking of denominations, what denomination is everyone here in? Not to judge or anything; I'm just curious.

So far I know Steel Accord and I think Sudo Krenton are catholic. I myself am part of a "Church of Christ".

 

 

Well... For me it's a little awkward to explain...

See, all my life I've gone to the same church, and I am a legitimate member of the church: United Methodist.  So, that would technically make me a Methodist.

However, recently, (though I've not been outspoken about this irl), I don't totally agree to some of the things of my specific church.  

I've become contemporary, and of course, United Methodist is traditional.  For those wondering: Methodist is similar to Nazareth and Presbyterian, at least as far as I know.  I do know for certain that Methodism is Weslyan in its values.

So, I'd rather like to think of myself these days as a self proclaimed "(Contemporary) Trinitarian Protestant" - who just so happens to be a member of the United Methodist Church, lol.

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My mistake, I should have said that religions cannot "fully co-exist."

 

Well, each religion claims that they have a different god that they believe in, and that those "other gods from other religions" are false or that or that some fact is true and the other is false. Logically, only one could exist, or none can, because they would cancel each other out. Yes, people with different beliefs can live "harmoniously" in varying degrees, but that doesn't change logic with the fact that religions cannot fully co-exist.

 

False. 

There are various religions that, despite some inconsistencies here and there, still are praying to the same God we are.

"Allah" = God.

Muslims believe in the same God we do.  (Of course, there are indeed some things that don't overlap.  They don't see Jesus as the only messiah/prophet in the way we do; but we see Jesus as Thee Messiah.)...

~ Miles

[Misty Rose 3,216]

Is it wrong if I consider myself a Deist? I just really don't feel attached to Christianity anymore like I used to. I can't go to Church here, and I feel so distant from the actual religion it feels weird to call myself a Christian -_-

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Is it wrong if I consider myself a Deist? I just really don't feel attached to Christianity anymore like I used to. I can't go to Church here, and I feel so distant from the actual religion it feels weird to call myself a Christian -_-

 

There are Christian Deists.

[Sudo Krenton 243]

Muslims believe in the same God we do. (Of course, there are indeed some things that don't overlap. They don't see Jesus as the only messiah/prophet in the way we do; but we see Jesus as Thee Messiah.)...

I'm assuming you were writing up your reply whilst Steel and I were discussing. We came to the conclusion that I awkwardly was trying to hint at that:

I believe your intended message was that "specific theologies cannot co-exist."

Is it wrong if I consider myself a Deist? I just really don't feel attached to Christianity anymore like I used to. I can't go to Church here, and I feel so distant from the actual religion it feels weird to call myself a Christian

I wouldn't think so, as Deism is the belief that God exists but He does not actively participate in our livelyhood. If you don't see yourself falling into that category, maybe the Theism category might suit you? Theism is the belief that God exists, and that He actively participates in our livelyhood (This is just a bare-bones explanation).

 

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Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Whatever you want, I suppose. Do you feel that you need to say something in regards to my opinion? If so, I don't mind. I'm not going to hate on you for it.

 

I guess not, just saying that I am one and that I do think any combination of theologies might be true.

[Sudo Krenton 243]

I guess not, just saying that I am one and that I do think any combination of theologies might be true.

I wouldn't say any, but a good deal could have some form of compatibility. Kind of like operating systems.

 

Window's and Linux can run applications designed for the other operating system. Some work well, some don't, and some refuse to work. You can fix it by manually patching files into the file directories, or just living with the issues. Linux and OSX on the other hand, they barely work together. In fact, it's even harder to do it than with Windows. Even then, whether it's Windows or OSX, you're going to have some minor issue, or some bump in the road. All of this, of course, would need some form of helping software to work.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can, but it'd be would be hard with all the discrepancies.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Misty Rose 3,216]

There are Christian Deists.

 

But wouldn't being Christian imply I actually belong to the Christian religion? Go to church, read the Bible?

I'm assuming you were writing up your reply whilst Steel and I were discussing. We came to the conclusion that I awkwardly was trying to hint at that:

I wouldn't think so, as Deism is the belief that God exists but He does not actively participate in our livelyhood. If you don't see yourself falling into that category, maybe the Theism category might suit you? Theism is the belief that God exists, and that He actively participates in our livelyhood (This is just a bare-bones explanation).

 

This will explain more: http://prntscr.com/7gzkv0

 

Actually this is the definition I got for theist.

 

Theist, Deist, Atheist, Agnostic. A theist believes there is a God who made and governs all creation; but does not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, nor in a divine revelation. A deist believes there is a God who created all things, but does not believe in His superintendence and government.

 

Truthfully I identify more with this

 

Deism is a natural religion. Deists believe in the existence of God, on purely rational grounds, without any reliance on revealed religion or religious authority or holy text. Because of this, Deism is quite different from religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Pink Mist

[Sudo Krenton 243]

But wouldn't being Christian imply I actually belong to the Christian religion? Go to church, read the Bible?

 

Christian imply you believing in such a person as Christ and him being God, hence where "Christian" and "Christianity" came from. So not necessarily church, but probably the Bible, as if you didn't read the Bible, how'd you find your beliefs in Christ, as the Bible is the main source for us knowing about Him? If you don't believe in Christ being God, you're not exactly a Christian... as that would defeat the definition of the word .

Edited June 14, 2015 by Sudo Krenton

[Misty Rose 3,216]

Christian imply you believing in such a person as Christ and him being God, hence where "Christian" and "Christianity" came from. So not necessarily church, but probably the Bible, as if you didn't read the Bible, how'd you find your beliefs in Christ, as the Bible is the main source for us knowing about Him? If you don't believe in Christ being God, you're not a Christian.

 

It's just the way I've been brought up, people find you a hypocrite if you say you're a Christian but don't go to Church and don't read the Bible I don't really read the Bible anymore, mostly for personal reasons

[Steel Accord 6,660]

But wouldn't being Christian imply I actually belong to the Christian religion? Go to church, read the Bible?

 

Well if you are not able to go to Church, I don't think God will hold it against you.

 

 

Actually this is the definition I got for theist.   Theist, Deist, Atheist, Agnostic. A theist believes there is a God who made and governs all creation; but does not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, nor in a divine revelation. A deist believes there is a God who created all things, but does not believe in His superintendence and government.   Truthfully I identify more with this   Deism is a natural religion. Deists believe in the existence of God, on purely rational grounds, without any reliance on revealed religion or religious authority or holy text. Because of this, Deism is quite different from religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

 

There are shades to that though. A Deist can believe in the Christian God and even Christ, but hold that God doesn't intervene in our lives, relying on the ultimate importance of free will.

It's just the way I've been brought up, people find you a hypocrite if you say you're a Christian but don't go to Church and don't read the Bible I don't really read the Bible anymore, mostly for personal reasons

 

I'm sorry about that. I won't ask.

 

If it helps, I don't really read it either. I mean I glance at a passage every now and then, but I hear the Bible from the gospel at mass so why do I need to read it myself?

Edited June 14, 2015 by Steel Accord

[Misty Rose 3,216]

Well if you are not able to go to Church, I don't think God will hold it against you.

 

 

 

 

There are shades to that though. A Deist can believe in the Christian God and even Christ, but hold that God doesn't intervene in our lives, relying on the ultimate importance of free will.

 

I would like to attend a church, but with my family being Catholic I can't exactly go to a Christian church by myself here

 

And about that, I'm not so sure. I want to believe God interferes and helps, but I'm also unsure of that alot these days -_-

[Steel Accord 6,660]

I would like to attend a church, but with my family being Catholic I can't exactly go to a Christian church by myself here

 

And about that, I'm not so sure. I want to believe God interferes and helps, but I'm also unsure of that alot these days -_-

 

Oh yay a fellow Catholic! Well that seems ridiculous, if you can't reach a mass, you should make do with another Christian ceremony. When I was at Valley Forge Military College, I attended a non-Catholic church and it was different sure but it helped.

 

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Well Deism holds that God created the universe but does not meddle with it. Benjamin Franklin was a Deist and compared God to a clock maker. He wound the springs and placed the cogs, but once He set it in motion He never touched it again.

[Misty Rose 3,216]

Oh yay a fellow Catholic! Well that seems ridiculous, if you can't reach a mass, you should make do with another Christian ceremony. When I was at Valley Forge Military College, I attended a non-Catholic church and it was different sure but it helped.

 

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Well Deism holds that God created the universe but does not meddle with it. Benjamin Franklin was a Deist and compared God to a clock maker. He wound the springs and placed the cogs, but once He set it in motion He never touched it again.

 

My family is Catholic, but I'm not -_- They won't want to go to a Christian church with me, so that's why I said I can't go alone

 

Yeah that's honestly something I've just been iffy about To be honest, my faith and beliefs are all over the place right now

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

My family is Catholic, but I'm not

 

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to presume.

 

 

 

They won't want to go to a Christian church with me, so that's why I said I can't go alone

 

Well why not go alone? If they won't support you that's their loss.

 

 

 

Yeah that's honestly something I've just been iffy about To be honest, my faith and beliefs are all over the place right now

 

As is natural. My faith has changed many times over the years. So there's nothing wrong with being confused or searching. Not all who wander, are lost.