child of the night 271 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 But Unicorn is master race by extension of Rarity master race Wait if unicorn is the master race why are there more earth pony rarities than unicorn and alicorn combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Fair enough... but how is Fluttershy above everypony when she's angry? We've never seen her do something crazy physically when she's angry. Granted, she's pretty much talked down dragons from violence when she gets angry and stared cockatrices into submission, but I've never seen her like bulldoze a house when she gets angry or something. Unless you're talking about that scene where she was practicing like extreme chiropractic therapy on that bear, but even then, that's not really saying much since she knew exactly which spots to touch to work out the kinks. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Waver 1,408 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Earth ponies, from my observation, have a greater connection with the land than the other two races. They are the ones that allow society to run the way it does. Then again, so do pegasi and unicorns. Each one has their own place in the triangle that keeps Equestria functioning. "Time is just an illusionary factoid that all natural things are bound to. It has the power to crumble even the mightiest of mountains into little more than dust, yet if it is an illusion, why is this so? Because people waste a lot of time, only wishing they had more. Little do people realize an inescapable fact: Time governs those who wish they had more of it. By wishing you could use it better, you govern time, and you can get all the time you'll ever need." — Starfall, Quillwaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Fair enough... but how is Fluttershy above everypony when she's angry? We've never seen her do something crazy physically when she's angry. Granted, she's pretty much talked down dragons from violence when she gets angry and stared cockatrices into submission, but I've never seen her like bulldoze a house when she gets angry or something. Unless you're talking about that scene where she was practicing like extreme chiropractic therapy on that bear, but even then, that's not really saying much since she knew exactly which spots to touch to work out the kinks. When she tossed a pony about 20 meters with no effort what so ever in Putting Your Hoof Down, knocking over two huge containers of garbage(each much have weighed a ton) easily, pummeling an Earth Pony, etc. "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 When she tossed a pony about 20 meters with no effort what so ever in Putting Your Hoof Down, knocking over two huge containers of garbage(each much have weighed a ton) easily, pummeling an Earth Pony, etc. Maybe you have a point, but you're also putting her above a pony that has blown up a barn in a giant rainbow nuclear explosion and kicked trees into logs here and Applejack is apparently equal to Rainbow Dash despite that, so it's hard to actually quantify some of these feats. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGEL33 87 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 My OC is an Earth Pony that can fly even though he has no wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Maybe you have a point, but you're also putting her above a pony that has blown up a barn in a giant rainbow nuclear explosion and kicked trees into logs here and Applejack is apparently equal to Rainbow Dash despite that, so it's hard to actually quantify some of these feats. Striking Strength =/= Lifting Strength They don't scale linearly As for blowing up the barn, that wasn't exactly a physical feat so much as Rainbow weakening the structure and then sonic rainbooming when she got near it. It's hard to say, I just have enraged Fluttershy that high because she was able to outspeed RD in Return of Harmony. RD was weighed down, but Fluttershy had tons of drag with that balloon "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Striking Strength =/= Lifting Strength They don't scale linearly As for blowing up the barn, that wasn't exactly a physical feat so much as Rainbow weakening the structure and then sonic rainbooming when she got near it. It's hard to say, I just have enraged Fluttershy that high because she was able to outspeed RD in Return of Harmony. RD was weighed down, but Fluttershy had tons of drag with that balloon I'm not saying they do, but Rainbow Dash and Applejack have never really gotten super angry and then started hurting people or things before, so that's hard to say. If Fluttershy naturally isn't as strong as Applejack or Rainbow Dash, I don't think she could out do them if they were angry. It just doesn't add up that Fluttershy would be the strongest when she doesn't train, doesn't appear to work out all that much, or do anything of that nature. Yes, she does physical activities because she cares for animals, but I don't see characters asking her for help with luggage despite her apparent strength. I don't count that, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy were both weighed own but Rainbow Dash didn't have the help of a balloon holding up the two ponies that she was lifting. Plus, remember in the second part of the show's premiere when Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy caught Twilight, it was clear that Fluttershy was having more trouble lifting Twilight than Rainbow Dash was. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 It just doesn't add up that Fluttershy would be the strongest when she doesn't train, doesn't appear to work out all that much, or do anything of that nature Maud Pie doesn't exactly work out either from what we see either. Some people are just that gifted Yes, she does physical activities because she cares for animals, but I don't see characters asking her for help with luggage despite her apparent strength My theory is that she has plenty of strength to use, but without anger, can't acess it I don't count that, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy were both weighed own but Rainbow Dash didn't have the help of a balloon holding up the two ponies that she was lifting. It's not the weight that I'm counting, it's the drag. Balloons aren't meant for moving fast and would increase her strain by a lot. Plus, remember in the second part of the show's premiere when Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy caught Twilight, it was clear that Fluttershy was having more trouble lifting Twilight than Rainbow Dash was Fluttershy wasn't pissed off "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorful Respawn 399 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Ugh for the last time, Hasbro just carries the purse! DHX is the one who does the animations and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 I'm going to have to rewatch the show a lot, but I just have never been a fan of the "nice character who is shy but when angry suddenly has lots of strength" thing. Just seems like an excuse to give a character that isn't strong at all a power without them actually having to work for it. Either way, I still like Fluttershy so I'm not hating on her or anything, just doesn't add for me. If anything it makes me feel bad for Rainbow Dash and Applejack since they have worked so hard their whole life to be in good physical condition yet Fluttershy apparently can apparently just get mad and be better than both of them. Heck, when they were the Power Ponies she even had that super power. Oh well, more power to Fluttershy I guess! #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 I'm going to have to rewatch the show a lot, but I just have never been a fan of the "nice character who is shy but when angry suddenly has lots of strength" thing. Just seems like an excuse to give a character that isn't strong at all a power without them actually having to work for it. Either way, I still like Fluttershy so I'm not hating on her or anything, just doesn't add for me. If anything it makes me feel bad for Rainbow Dash and Applejack since they have worked so hard their whole life to be in good physical condition yet Fluttershy apparently can apparently just get mad and be better than both of them. Heck, when they were the Power Ponies she even had that super power. Oh well, more power to Fluttershy I guess! It's a common thing in anime so it doesn't bother me that much. Especially since Fluttershy is basically Gohan 5-11 year old kid with 6 years of training at best ends up making the people who have trained for far longer look like fools "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReverseFaller 2,484 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Earth Ponies are still important. Heck, the Earth Pony Race actually has some of the best ponies in the show. (Octavia, Pinkie Pie, Maud Pie, and Applejack.) They've been shown to be very strong, and they must have some sort of special ability that's unique to their race since Tirek was sucking the powers out of them. Credit for the signature goes to Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 It's a common thing in anime so it doesn't bother me that much. Especially since Fluttershy is basically Gohan 5-11 year old kid with 6 years of training at best ends up making the people who have trained for far longer look like fools Maybe, but Gohan at least has training and is a Saiyan. Not to mention a lot of his training was with Piccolo, and that guy is a real stickler when it comes to training. And chalk that up as another reason why I'm not a fan of Anime. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Maybe, but Gohan at least has training and is a Saiyan. Not to mention a lot of his training was with Piccolo, and that guy is a real stickler when it comes to training. And chalk that up as another reason why I'm not a fan of Anime. 6 years at best of training, compared to Goku's 20 something "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 6 years at best of training, compared to Goku's 20 something Compared to Fluttershy's zero years of training. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Compared to Fluttershy's zero years of training. Freeza had zero years of training too, look how strong he ended up "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Freeza had zero years of training too, look how strong he ended up Frieza spent his whole live torturing others, blowing up planets, and being a general douchebag. That probably was his "training". Plus, he's a space alien and was known from the beginning to be super strong, Fluttershy was shown to be delicate and shy and suddenly throwing out there that she's super powerful seems really silly. Not that she's been shown to be strong outside of gags anyway, but I don't like to discount gags at all, even if it is a cartoon. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Frieza spent his whole live torturing others, blowing up planets, and being a general douchebag. That probably was his "training". Plus, he's a space alien and was known from the beginning to be super strong, Fluttershy was shown to be delicate and shy and suddenly throwing out there that she's super powerful seems really silly. Not that she's been shown to be strong outside of gags anyway, but I don't like to discount gags at all, even if it is a cartoon. That like saying that squashing a bug is training. And as for gags, Maud Pie loses her feats "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Actually Maud doesn't, because I don't discount gags. And Fluttershy would lose her some of her feats as well if we discounted gags, since throwing that pony when she was mad and beating up a pony were both played for laughs, thus they were gags. And outside of that, Frieza's race appears to be naturally that strong, so that really shouldn't matter. Pegasi aren't shown to be born able to toss ponies into the sky, Frieza's race are all shown to be stronger than most around from birth. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Actually Maud doesn't, because I don't discount gags. And Fluttershy would lose her some of her feats as well if we discounted gags, since throwing that pony when she was mad and beating up a pony were both played for laughs, thus they were gags. And outside of that, Frieza's race appears to be naturally that strong, so that really shouldn't matter. Pegasi aren't shown to be born able to toss ponies into the sky, Frieza's race are all shown to be stronger than most around from birth. I misread your sentence, whoops. Anyway, not really. I mean, none of his family trained, that was clear, but Chilled was weak as shit(Ginyu level maybe) while King Cold was still weaker than Freeza. "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 They're still born stronger than most beings in the galaxy. As much as we've seen of super powerful beings, it's clear that most beings int he universe in DBZ aren't born with the ability to destroy planets, or even destroy a building. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 They're still born stronger than most beings in the galaxy. As much as we've seen of super powerful beings, it's clear that most beings int he universe in DBZ aren't born with the ability to destroy planets, or even destroy a building. Except for Yakon, the Kaioshins, the androids "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Except for Yakon, the Kaioshins, the androids That's still the minority of beings in the universe. We're talking about every single being in the universe here. Yes, there are plenty of main characters stronger than Frieza's race, but in general they are in the top 1% of power in the universe. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast 55 May 23, 2014 Share May 23, 2014 Earth ponies are the only ones able to grow food from the ground and are better with animals. I've heard fluttershy was supposed to be an earth pony since she is good with animals and pinkie pie a Pegasus. I'm not sure if that's true though. According to hearth's warming eve, all three races need each other to survive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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