I give up. The only thing that's bullshit here is the whole "I don't like it, therefore it's stupid" attitude of yours. I mean if other people liked the fight scene, why try to stop them?

You just won't listen when we tell you how it actually is, will you?

I give up. The only thing that's bullshit here is the whole "I don't like it, therefore it's stupid" attitude of yours. I mean if other people liked the fight scene, why try to stop them?

It's because it made Twilight a Mary Sue, while her friends were so disposable, that they might as well just die in the most violent fashion in the world, just like her library.

That's what DBZ is like, in-general.  It's nothing but supporting characters getting murdered over and over and over again, while Goku, Vegeta, and their sons become the Mary Sue saviors of the universe.

It's because it made Twilight a Mary Sue, while her friends were so disposable, that they might as well just die in the most violent fashion in the world, just like her library.

 

That's what DBZ is like, in-general.  It's nothing but supporting characters getting murdered over and over and over again, while Goku, Vegeta, and their sons become the Mary Sue saviors of the universe.

Please provide proof that Twilight sees her friends as disposable without bringing up the fandom. Oh wait, you can't.

She never "abandoned" her friends (who were powerless before the Rainbow Box thing was opened, remember that?), she freed them while risking Equestria to Tirek so that they could all defeat Tirek together since, even with the power of three other alicorns in her, Twilight could not defeat Tirek alone. Basically, you're instigating drama over nothing.

Umm...the rest of the mane 6 were basically powerless at this point in the episode. Tirek had sucked all their power/life out of them. So it's not like they could've helped anyways.

But in the end, they all defeated him with the Magic of Friendship, together. With their Rainbow Powers.

Please provide proof that Twilight sees her friends as disposable without bringing up the fandom. Oh wait, you can't.

Here was my experience watching the Vegeta story-arc in DBZ:

"Those six Z-Warriors all share the same superpowers as Goku, and yet they're 'weaker' than Vegeta and Nappa?  Why can't they save the world in Goku's stead?"

Since then, it had nothing more than become a frequent-as-hell problem.  The show is nothing but supporting characters getting brutally murdered over and over and over again because their "power levels" are "weaker" than Goku's.

Hell, if anything, there's even a trope that describes this kind of crap.  It's called "Woman in Refrigerator", and despite the name, it can also be applied to men as well, like Vegeta and Krillin during the Frieza arc.  Technically, characters have to be disempowered and brutally murdered to motivate the main-hero to fight back.

Thank God and Celestia alike for the Rainbow Power scene, because at least it empowered Twilight's friends through the magic of friendship.  DBZ didn't promote friendship at all, because too many of Goku's friends became disposable and killed violently over and over again, like they might as well be stuffed in the refrigerator like the women that they are.  And even if it did, the long, draggy, repetitive, and retarded fights would've gotten in the way.

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Here was my experience watching the Vegeta story-arc in DBZ:

 

"Those six Z-Warriors all share the same superpowers as Goku, and yet they're 'weaker' than Vegeta and Nappa?  Why can't they save the world in Goku's stead?"

 

Since then, it had nothing more than become a frequent-as-hell problem.  The show is nothing but supporting characters getting brutally murdered over and over and over again because their "power levels" are "weaker" than Goku's.

 

Hell, if anything, there's even a trope that describes this kind of crap.  It's called "Woman in Refrigerator", and despite the name, it can also be applied to men as well, like Vegeta and Krillin during the Frieza arc.  Technically, characters have to be disempowered and brutally murdered to motivate the main-hero to fight back.

 

Thank God and Celestia alike for the Rainbow Power scene, because at least it empowered Twilight's friends through the magic of friendship.  DBZ didn't promote friendship at all, because too many of Goku's friends became disposable and killed violently over and over again, like they might as well be stuffed in the refrigerator like the women that they are.  And even if it did, the long, draggy, repetitive, and retarded fights would've gotten in the way.

I don't see how that has to do with anything. Twilight's friends were powerless before the Rainbow Power scene. Remember that scene? Yeah? Where Discord trapped the ponies so that Tirek could drain their power too? Discord included? That's why they couldn't help before. They were never irrelevant. Not even for a second. As I said, you're instigating drama over nothing.

I don't see how that has to do with anything. Twilight's friends were powerless before the Rainbow Power scene. Remember that scene? Yeah? Where Discord trapped the ponies so that Tirek could drain their power too? Discord included? That's why they couldn't help before. They were never irrelevant. Not even for a second. As I said, you're instigating drama over nothing.

You're just making this worse, you know.

If Tirek sucked the Mane Five of all their magic, then that's another example of "Woman in Refrigerator", which again, had been the majority of Dragon Ball Z.

none of Twilight's friends are alicorns or are that powerful to stop Tirek. If you even cared about the story which i know you didn't anyway you would notice that the chest wasn't ready to be opened, Tirek already stole her friend's magic including Discord, Tirek destroyed Twilight's home. There wasn't any other solution than fighting back to stop him.

I admit the fight scene was a fan service lvl 100, but it was well placed because there was no other choice for Twilight.

none of Twilight's friends are alicorns or are that powerful to stop Tirek. If you even cared about the story which i know you didn't anyway you would notice that the chest wasn't ready to be opened, Tirek already stole her friend's magic including Discord, Tirek destroyed Twilight's home. There wasn't any other solution than fighting back to stop him.

 

I admit the fight scene was a fan service lvl 100, but it was well placed because there was no other choice for Twilight.

Look, man.  Here's what's going on with me, and it's not just because I'm a whiny, entitled fanboy on the level of the Mass Effect fanboys regarding ME3's ending.

I'm suffering from depression, as a result of me taking drugs like Fluoxetine and Strattera.  Nothing is interesting me anymore, not even going for walks to the park.  Hell, my potency barely even exists!  So, I take out my depression on the Internet even if it reduces me to a troll.

That, and I just don't see the popularity to DBZ, if it's nothing but slow-paced, meandering and repetitive fights and characters being stuffed into the refrigerator over and over and over again.

EDIT: Also, what about the Rainbow Power scene?  That made Twilight's friends useful and relevant again, unlike before when they were stuffed in the refrigerator to motivate Twilight's fight with Tirek.

I'm a seasoned veteran when it comes to defending my best pony, even if that pony is Rarity, not Twilight, but forums are meant for discussion, and, to discuss something, you have to listen to the other side; you're not always right. I've been wrong before, just has everyone here. When you're fighting just to be right, you're not doing it for the right reason. Listening to others keeps these forums not only interesting, but harmonious and friendly. Sure, it sucks being wrong, I know that as much as the next guy, but when you've got this many people able to debunk your arguments and all you can really do is compare this show to a different show, when, in reality, there's only one scene from MLP that would fit in DBZ, which is the one we're discussing, I'm sorry, but that's when the argument has run dry.

I'm sorry, but I don't need to regurgitate what other people are telling you; just calm down and read what they have to say. Even if the foundation of a forum is discussing things, discussing is much different than arguing. You don't always have to be right, and, admitting when you're wrong is always the more mature thing to do.

My regards to you, Daring.

Look, man.  Here's what's going on with me, and it's not just because I'm a whiny, entitled fanboy on the level of the Mass Effect fanboys regarding ME3's ending.

 

I'm suffering from depression, as a result of me taking drugs like Fluoxetine and Strattera.  Nothing is interesting me anymore, not even going for walks to the park.  Hell, my potency barely even exists!  So, I take out my depression on the Internet even if it reduces me to a troll.

 

That, and I just don't see the popularity to DBZ, if it's nothing but slow-paced, meandering and repetitive fights and characters being stuffed into the refrigerator over and over and over again.

 

EDIT: Also, what about the Rainbow Power scene?  That made Twilight's friends useful and relevant again, unlike before when they were stuffed in the refrigerator to motivate Twilight's fight with Tirek.

I'm so sorry sorry you suffer from depression, but none of that or dragon ball has nothing to do with Twilight's fighting scene. You just don't put MLP and DBZ in the same sentence because they don't belong together, and all you do is compare it to Dragon Ball.

If you were more rational about how you don't like the fighting scene perhaps you would feel this like less of an attack.

You have to understand that Twilight is the main character of the show, she is a princess and all of her friends are happy for her, and even if Twilight is more powerful. The elements of harmony would never work if she's alone, she needs her friends to activate the most powerful magic of Equestria so they aren't useless at all.

Can you just... stop?

Oh no, Twilight was more powerful than her friends in terms of magic. Gee this hasn't been completely obvious throughout the entire show. Her being the main character from day one did not make this completely apparent either. Totally.

Get over it. Twilight IS more powerful than her friends, in terms of MAGIC. She is an Alicorn so that is obvious. Celestial forbid if there is ANY difference in strength with anything.

Her friends do matter because friendship is the most powerful magic and it won't work without them.

But oh noes, Twilight is good with magic itself, therefore Mary Sue.

Oh no, Twilight was more powerful than her friends in terms of magic. Gee this hasn't been completely obvious throughout the entire show. Her being the main character from day one did not make this completely apparent either. Totally.

 

 

Get over it. Twilight IS more powerful than her friends, in terms of MAGIC. She is an Alicorn so that is obvious. Celestial forbid if there is ANY difference in strength with anything.

 

Her friends do matter because friendship is the most powerful magic and it won't work without them.

 

But oh noes, Twilight is good with magic itself, therefore Mary Sue.

I would be able to believe that the real magic comes from Twilight's friends, if she didn't become the number one solution to everything while her friends get kidnapped, disempowered, or -- god, forbid -- killed.

That, and people care more about the Twilight/Tirek DBZ knock-off fight over the message of "godlike magic means nothing compared to the magic of friendship".

Twilight IS more powerful than her friends, in terms of MAGIC.

^this

Honestly, Rarity is a unicorn and I love Rarity. Hell, I borderline worship her, but even I say Twilight has more strength when it comes to magic. Not so much creativity or style, but Twilight is the ELEMENT of Magic. Her magic was stronger even when she was a regular unicorn. Rarity is still a better pony, though 

I would be able to believe that the real magic comes from Twilight's friends, if she didn't become the number one solution to everything while her friends get kidnapped, disempowered, or -- god, forbid -- killed.

 

That, and people care more about the Twilight/Tirek DBZ knock-off fight over the message of "godlike magic means nothing compared to the magic of friendship".

Again, get over it. In any single handed situation, her friends would not come close to Twilight in power. So yeah, she had to rescue them. Big deal.

Then again, why bother making any points to you? All you have been doing for the past year is bitching about any and all advancement that the show makes.

Again, get over it. In any single handed situation, her friends would not come close to Twilight in power. So yeah, she had to rescue them. Big deal. Then again, why bother making any points to you? All you have been doing for the past year is bitching about any and all advancement that the show makes.

Here's another thing.

You know how Spike is always considering himself the most useless member of the group, and wishes to be useful?  Twilight's friends could've been the same way, desperate to help their own friend and leader but unable to because of her own level of power.  Hell, that could've came up in Equestria Girls as well, where they get left behind for five humanized knock-offs of them.

Here's another thing.

 

You know how Spike is always considering himself the most useless member of the group, and wishes to be useful?  Twilight's friends could've been the same way, desperate to help their own friend and leader but unable to because of her own level of power.  Hell, that could've came up in Equestria Girls as well, where they get left behind for five humanized knock-offs of them.

Yeah, I am done here. You are clearly blocking off any and all responses, so nothing will get through to you.

Move along Everypony, nothing to see here.

It doesn't really seem to me he's actually watched the episode. Arguing is useless because he doesn't seem willing to listen to the other side too. I don't care if you're depressed or not, listening to both sides of an argument is important.

Thanks you guys for filing in for me while I was in class.

 

All everyone ever cares about is this stupid Twilight/Tirek fight scene, which rendered Twilight's friends just as obsolete as Goku's non-saiyan friends. And, that fight scene could've been even worse if it dragged on for five episodes, or worse, an entire season!!!

But Tirek declared that Equestria only had five minutes before it exploded...

Final note :

>Writes 'Part I' of opinion

>Writes another blogpost to justify his rude and horrid behaviour, apologizing

>Goes back to doing it again in 'Part II'

#Bronyism

Final note :

 

>Writes 'Part I' of opinion

>Writes another blogpost to justify his rude and horrid behaviour, apologizing

>Goes back to doing it again in 'Part II'

 

#Bronyism

Otty, not all bronies are like that.