Also, just because they're completely different genres doesn't mean they can't draw inspiration from each other. In many ways FiM and DBZ are completely different, but it's hard to watch the fight scene and not think of DBZ

On top of that, you can have characters comparable from completely different franchises that are very similar to each other despite that

MLP really hasnt been a girls show since probably season 2, and as time went on it got more and more gender neutral, its not really a show for girls anymore, its very gender neutral, and the reason people are comparing it to DBZ is primarily the fight scene, it was very reminiscent of a DBZ fight, just not as long, it doesnt matter who the show is targeted towards, that doesnt mean there arent comparable elements, heck i can compare applejack with Rorschach from The Watchmen, both characters are stubborn and headstrong but also reliable, just because something is targeted towards a different audience, doesnt mean it doesnt have comparable elements

Firstly, this has nothing to do with the scene in question and everything to do with how people respond to it, which is an inherently unfair critique.

Secondly, you're claiming they shouldn't be compared when you're the one who seems dead-set on comparing them to begin with. 

You're more obsessed with this fight scene than any of its supporters are. Just let it go, man. You'll be much happier for it, trust me.

Stop using ridiculously unrelated topics to justify your argument. In fact, please just stop using any topic at all to justify your argument.

You're going to be on a lot of people's shit list if you keep this up. You aren't irritating me, personally, but you are irritating other members. Take from this what you will.

 Again, your complaint about the fight scene is completely irrelevant and unjustified because this is about how the fandom is responding to it and not about the scene itself. This something that you should not even care about and the fact that it's pissing you off so much is rather pathetic. People have different tastes than you, deal with it! We are not obligated to like what you like and hate what you hate.

 

alongside the whole "Twilight's friends were rendered disposable while she herself becomes a Mary Sue" argument I keep beating to death.

And that was rendered an invalid argument by the fact that in that same episode she lost the fight, needed to learn that magic isn't as powerful as friendship and needed her friends to help defeat Tirek via Rainbow Power so your statement that "Twilight's friends were rendered disposable" is an outright lie.

Are we seriously going to judge the quality of a scene by the gender of the target demo? It makes as much sense as saying the scene sucked because you don't like the animator's wife. None at all.

Genres and defined target/market audiences are not enforceable rules on a work. Works can transcend their genres and their audiences if they wanted. It's because of commercial influences turning them into enforceable rules that more works can't challenge them. MLP's original goal was to transcend stereotypes about shows for girls (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlShowGhetto). It wants to be compared to a show like Dragon Ball Z.

Thank you for demonstrating exactly the kind of thinking that MLP was designed to combat. This kind of thinking is what plagues the higher levels of the industry. I think you have a bright future as a network executive.

Are we seriously going to judge the quality of a scene by the gender of the target demo? It makes as much sense as saying the scene sucked because you don't like the animator's wife. None at all.

 

Genres and defined target/market audiences are not enforceable rules on a work. Works can transcend their genres and their audiences if they wanted. It's because of commercial influences turning them into enforceable rules that more works can't challenge them. MLP's original goal was to transcend stereotypes about shows for girls (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlShowGhetto). It wants to be compared to a show like Dragon Ball Z.

 

Thank you for demonstrating exactly the kind of thinking that MLP was designed to combat. This kind of thinking is what plagues the higher levels of the industry. I think you have a bright future as a network executive.

Okay, so I'm coming up with millions of excuses explaining why the Twilight/Tirek fight scene doesn't work for me.

The real reason is, again, because it made Twilight's friends useless and disposable, and Twilight overpowered and Mary Sue-like.  And, that's the same problem with DBZ; in order to raise the stakes, many supporting characters are killed or disempowered, while Goku's power-levels climb so high that it's incomprehensible.

At the very least, some other anime that were inspired by DBZ worked to improve on its mistakes.  One Piece, for example, had shorter, but more varied fights, and with the exception of the Whitebeard War arc, all of Luffy's friends -- even the weaker ones like Nami and Usopp -- still retain relevance and work together with him to defeat the bad-guys, even though their job is to fight the quirky mini-boss squad while Luffy handles the main-boss.