Never thought about the feminist angle. Intriguing. I wonder why they're so defensive about the idea in the first place; this seems to be the first show that an issue like this has been raised.

 

 

Femme Fetale from The Powerpuff Girls

That character was actually based off of the kind of feminists who spout this shit

+1 for female equality. That's not only fair, but it's right. Female supremacy is another thing, and the feminists who write that sort of nonsense are essentially going against the original cause of the feminist movement just by the gender inequality-laden rants that they spout off on Dumblr.

Just thought I'd share my two cents on that, although you may have stated it in your blog. Just sort of skimmed through it, to be honest.

Ultimately, though, anyone with half a brain would be able to see through the over-exaggerated piles of crap these people promote. If we're stealing the show from little kids, why aren't you criticizing the adult-laden fandoms of shows like "Adventure Time?" 

Because you're just bashing bronies to capitalize on the controversy they've spawned with the creation of their fandom so that way people will notice the articles you're putting out - which is really, in all likelihood, just a desperate grab from the writer for attention, which is probably because no one really cared about anything else they had to say.

Just weak-minded and full of logical fallacies, really, but you can't stop the world from having people who do stuff like that.

There is never enough popcorn for all the entertainment these knuckleheads provide with their stupidity.

That argument is so laughably bad, it looks like they're literally just looking for reasons to hate bronies or just take feminism to a whole new level.

I'm a feminist... A TRUE feminist... I realized that the brony community, with it's large portion of adult males, was a GOOD thing for feminism, and a step in the right direction. Part of what makes the world unfair to the female gender is the lack of understanding in the males, and that, for some reason, many men are afraid of looking even the slightest bit feminine because they think it's weak, and it's bad.

The fact that all genders and all ages can enjoy something that's target audience is young girls is a BIG statement of the progressive and open-minded nature of both the people creating the show, and the people watching it.

With a focus strong female characters, without making the few male characters that turn up look weak, it's exceptionally equal. Big Macintosh is very strong and hardworking, Shining Armour can produce a force-field around the entirety of Canterlot and is captain of the royal guard, Soarin is an exceptional flyer and (I think) is the second in command with the Wonderbolts. Even spike, who is a baby dragon, is intelligent enough to read, write, organize the library, and he does the typical "female" jobs around too because Twilight is often really busy.

And that's important. The key to feminism is teach both males AND females that they're equals, no matter what jobs they do.

It's a problem that I'm all too familiar with from what I've seen on Tumblr. Personally I view the femenism angle as simply a bunch of tumblrinas who seek attention as Tumblr is a popular hotspot for brony hate at the moment.

I've always found the whole 'stole the show from the intended audience' as  a laughable excuse as Lauren had intended the show to be enjoyed by not only little girls but also their parents as well, which DHX has obviously extended to include the male audience entirely by how many older references are available in the show and the quality in general. Even Hasbro has taken que from this considering of how much higher the quality in the MLP toys has gone thanks to bronies critiquing Hasbro's products and choosing more expensive but higher quality fan made toys in favor.

Their same argument can be applied to any other fandom that exists (Rule 34) but yet none of those other fandoms receive the same hate for it as others (save for Furries) all because guys liking something feminine is considered weird at best and pedophilia at worst by society in general, and even many feminists do not like the idea of guys liking something that they consider their stuff, which is sexist itself.

I'm a feminist... A TRUE feminist... I realized that the brony community, with it's large portion of adult males, was a GOOD thing for feminism, and a step in the right direction. Part of what makes the world unfair to the female gender is the lack of understanding in the males, and that, for some reason, many men are afraid of looking even the slightest bit feminine because they think it's weak, and it's bad.

 

The fact that all genders and all ages can enjoy something that's target audience is young girls is a BIG statement of the progressive and open-minded nature of both the people creating the show, and the people watching it.

 

With a focus strong female characters, without making the few male characters that turn up look weak, it's exceptionally equal. Big Macintosh is very strong and hardworking, Shining Armour can produce a force-field around the entirety of Canterlot and is captain of the royal guard, Soarin is an exceptional flyer and (I think) is the second in command with the Wonderbolts. Even spike, who is a baby dragon, is intelligent enough to read, write, organize the library, and he does the typical "female" jobs around too because Twilight is often really busy.

 

And that's important. The key to feminism is teach both males AND females that they're equals, no matter what jobs they do.

Perfectly said, and I commend you for saying how the brony community is a good thing for feminism.

If there's one thing to say about FIM's main series, it's how unabashedly pro-feminist it is. One of the show's most important themes is subversion of cliches and stereotypes. You see this everywhere.

• Twilight being relocated from her school in Canterlot to Ponyville
• Green Isn't Your Color tackling the subject of jealousy realistically
• The Best Night Ever satirizing fairytales
• Sisterhooves Social
• Hurricane Fluttershy and the consequences of bullying
• Testing Testing 1, 2, 3's criticisms of streamlined structure of academic learning
• Cheese Sandwich and Pinkie Pie being successful and great party planners in Pinkie Pride
• Suited for Success's criticism of executive meddling

Because there's such an huge, out and about population of bronies (male, female, young, old, etc.), with the help of reliable networking of social media, the brony community perfectly proves how anyone can enjoy quality, pro-feminine family entertainment regardless of base demographic.

FIM is the most important pro-feminist show since The Powerpuff Girls.

I agree. It's a pretty ridiculous statement to make, seeing as the show isn't suddenly unviewable by the younger audience now that it has achieved a massive surge in popularity among the older audience. If anything, this growth is a positive thing for the younger audience as well, reason being as you explained the show has taken more attempts at tackling more mature concepts. And the show/brand is definitely going to last much longer/stay more relevant now that the brony fandom exists than if it didn't.

It looks like to me that they are only coming up with random excuses because they honestly have no reasons to bash the community, therefore need a reason. 
 

It's simple, really. If the show garners an audience this huge and commands this much appreciation, and we can break it down to definitively say that it IS a good show, what right does anyone have to be picky about who should or shouldn't enjoy the show?

We're not allowed to enjoy a show because we're a certain age or gender? They have a word for that now. It's called discrimination.

"Target audience" is way less sacred than gatekeepers think it is. Most writers and show runners aren't actively trying to keep their work from being enjoyed by a broader audience. Target audiences exist mainly for marketing purposes, not to establish some kind of exclusive space.

On 17/08/2015 at 8:56 PM, Zerbu said:

"Target audience" is way less sacred than gatekeepers think it is. Most writers and show runners aren't actively trying to keep their work from being enjoyed by a broader audience. Target audiences exist mainly for marketing purposes, not to establish some kind of exclusive space.

Not sure that isn't an argument for the title one though - Adults tend to have WAY more disposable income than preteen girls, so will pay more for collectables and display pieces (while a preteen is more likely to have a smaller but actively played with collection)