i my self am an atheist and i disagree with you

i do have morals, just because i dont believe in god dose not mean i dont know the difference between right and wrong, i consider my self a very moral person, i try to be a nice person and uphold the law

and i will continue to call thieves, rapists and racist bad, because thats what they are, they are vile despicable people

Such hate and bias.

Athiesm just means somebody doesn't believe god/whatever exists. Athiesm doesn't mean "Misanthropic hedonist". What if I walked up to you and said all Christains are gullible and believe in fairy tales? It wouldn't be polite, would it? Because you're doing a similar thing here.

I'm an Athiest, and I believe in right and wrong. The fact I don't believe god exists doesn't mean that part of my brain is fried.

I'm just going to hold back and end my comment here.

Atheism is the rejection of the beliefs of Gods or teachings of religious Prophets. There is absolutely nothing in the definition that states that you have to cast away morals too. Morals and Religion are two different sections. You can have morals without believing in a God. Me? I don't believe in any God, only pure nature itself, and I do believe in an afterlife. So, I'm an agnostic. But still, I dislike the Republican Party. That doesn't make me not an agnostic or atheist. It just simply means I don't agree with their ideals. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think the point he was trying to make here is that without a god or a creator, there is no one to establish what's right or what's wrong. What you think is right and wrong can differ drastically from what someone else thinks is wrong. Take, for example, Charles Manson. I doubt he thought committing all those murders was wrong, and without a higher being to dictate what right and wrong is, who's to Manson was in fact wrong?

Everyone commenting here has missed the point.

He wasn't saying atheists can't discern right from wrong. He was saying atheism (more like, the naturalistic worldview) can't account for the existence of objective morality. Thus there is no right and wrong within atheism (once again, more specifically the naturalistic aspect) unless you live inconsistent with your own worldview.

Of course, you make a bunch of angry responses when atheism is criticized, and everyone sidesteps the point at hand.

Go figure.

I agree with you. Logically, atheists, such as myself have no grounds to make moral statements (neither do the religious, but that's an argument for another day). We do so anyway. Why? Simple. Humans are not logical. We are not rational. We are subject to conditioning, genetic predisposition, emotion, bias, and just plain foolishness. We put away criminals to create a stable, safer society, but why is this desirable? We are afraid of them. All moral claims are irrationally based in emotion. I wrote a paper about this, and if anyone wants to read it, I would be happy to share it.

Whoever locked this forgot to make a note so that it's clear.

Hey guys, this is locked now.

There.