I vaguely remember you, back when I was a lot more active here.. You were well into PC gaming. I wonder what happened to make you sell everything. In PC gaming, you have to invest quite a lot in order to stay on track, if you see what I mean. The 970 was very good when it came out..but things move forward quickly and become obsolete quickly as well. That's the main downside to PC gaming. On a side note, I'm not going to get a 1080. I might as well wait for their Pascal Titan (or whatever they're going to call it).

I vaguely remember you, back when I was a lot more active here.. You were well into PC gaming. I wonder what happened to make you sell everything. In PC gaming, you have to invest quite a lot in order to stay on track, if you see what I mean. The 970 was very good when it came out..but things move forward quickly and become obsolete quickly as well. That's the main downside to PC gaming. On a side note, I'm not going to get a 1080. I might as well wait for their Pascal Titan (or whatever they're going to call it).

My goal is to pay off my auto loan which I am more than halfway done. I also am leaving gaming to get into body building, and that requires proper nutrition which is a big investment. 

My parts such as the motherboard and cpu were showing their age. I had a quad locked at 3.40gz, but my motherboard has no SLI function and few PCIe slots. The 970  was in my eyes, Nvidia being cheap and the 970 could not be well optimized with AAA games from 2015, you either had a 980ti and were rocking games, or you weren't getting 60fps on max settings. 

I could always get back if I want to. But as of now, I can't worry about video games right now.

If I come back to PC, then my next system is going to be a pure AMD build. AMD CPU socket and two AMD gpus in crossfire. 

I personally prefer Nvidia over AMD. Especially in the high performance range.

I personally prefer Nvidia over AMD. Especially in the high performance range.

AMD can compete, they for one had high VRAM cards before Nvidia even bothered to. Polaris is aiming for lower wattage output which I admire the effort because that can make PC gaming a little more cheaper. The r480x was just displayed and had some impressive benchmarks for $200. And the r490 isn't even out yet. 

 

 

my GTX 970 was not even a good GPU even when it came out

As someone who still has a 970 in a box, I call bullshit.

As someone who still has a 970 in a box, I call bullshit.

The 1080 is not a small performance boost, it's a huge leap. So from my perspective the 970 was a waste of my money. I am happy that I got it 60% off on Amazon when it came out, because I don't think it was good. You either had a 980ti or weren't crushing games. 

The 970 was really good for 1080p. as was the AMD equivalent Unless you were trying 1440p or 4k, I have no idea what your problem with it was.

The 970 was really good for 1080p. as was the AMD equivalent Unless you were trying 1440p or 4k, I have no idea what your problem with it was.

It felt like both AMD and Nvidia were milking their user base, everyone should have logically stuck with the 700 and R200 series and waited for Pascal and Polaris. PC gaming to me is just a money pit. Hardware aside, last year all the AAA ports ran like trash even if you had a powerful system. 

Speaking as someone who regularly games on PC, I agree with Vulon Bii that the 970 is a pretty powerful card. It depends on the game, not the card. I can play current games like Doom maxed out with little issue, and a game like Fallout 4 doesn't perform nearly as well. It all depends on how optimized a game is.

As for PC gaming, I'm going to have to disagree and say that it is not a money pit, you can have a decent rig for a good price. You just gotta know what to pick.

Don't blame Nvidia for the piss poor performance of games made by people like Bethesda or Ubisoft, who can't optimize a game to save their lives.

Also

The 970 was very good when it came out..but things move forward quickly and become obsolete quickly as well. That's the main downside to PC gaming.

That's not true. You can use the same card for years, even longer than you would a console, and it'll last you a long time. You just need to make sure you take care of your PC.  

That's not true. You can use the same card for years, even longer than you would a console, and it'll last you a long time. You just need to make sure you take care of your PC.  

The Xbox 360 lasted 7 years, I really doubt you could use a card for that long, even the most high-end ones. The general consensus is 4 years. 

7th-gen consoles lasted so long because of the recession. We probably would've had the PS4 and Xbone in 2009-2010 if there never was one. No other console generation lasted as long as the 7th-generation.

And yes, 4 years is quite a life span for any piece of hardware. Hell, you still have people still using Ivy Bridge CPUs. The reason why there is new hardware every year or so is because we are able to make advancements. Could you imagine AMD or Nvidia not releasing new GPUs for 5-6 years?

The Xbox 360 lasted 7 years, I really doubt you could use a card for that long, even the most high-end ones. The general consensus is 4 years.

Except that's untrue. I've seen people still using 480s, a card from 2010, and they get by totally fine.

Hell, even seen people with 8800 GTs.

So again, GPUs last longer than you think.

Except that's untrue. I've seen people still using 480s, a card from 2010, and they get by totally fine. Hell, even seen people with 8800 GTs. So again, GPUs last longer than you think.

But PC culture is centered around hardware porn. That's why Nvidia, AMD and Intel continue to make billions because they know people will by new hardware annually. Most PC gamers I am aware of, are snobs. They spend more time bragging about statistics, then actually talking about the games themselves. 

Not calling you a snob though. 

But PC culture is centered around hardware porn. That's why Nvidia, AMD and Intel continue to make billions because they know people will by new hardware annually. Most PC gamers I am aware of, are snobs. They spend more time bragging about statistics, then actually talking about the games themselves. 

 

Not calling you a snob though.

I only care about having a fun PC gaming experience.

Oh, I'm aware. Although, most of us sane ones shun those who act like elitists. And upgrading parts yearly is not only unnecessary, but also a waste of money. I only care about having a fun PC gaming experience.

Gaming is not doing anything in my life now. I want to get into shape and eat healthier. I am content with not having too much shit cluttering my room. If I have a laptop with an ssd, 16gb of ram and a decently powered mGPU, then I am all set. Nothing too flashy. 

I've seen people still using 480s, a card from 2010, and they get by totally fine.

Until the GTX 480 becomes completely outdated, the polar ice caps will continue to melt.

@@Vulon Bii,Eh, I'm not sure what you mean by that

 Are you saying it'll be relevant for a while?

@@Vulon Bii,Eh, I'm not sure what you mean by that

 Are you saying it'll be relevant for a while?

The joke is that the GTX 480 runs hotter than pretty much any other modern card, up to 100 C. 

The joke is that the GTX 480 runs hotter than pretty much any other modern card, up to 100 C. 

Oh, ok. I mean, yeah, it's gonna run hotter as it gets older, but as long as you take care of it, and keep your PC properly cooled and cleaned, it could last for a while.

Oh, ok. I mean, yeah, it's gonna run hotter as it gets older, but as long as you take care of it, and keep your PC properly cooled and cleaned, it could last for a while.

This is what Nvidia says about the GTX 480's temps:

"Depending on operating environment of the card, users should expect to see normal 3D GPU temperatures in the low to mid 90's (Celsius) on GeForce GTX 480/470. The maximum temperature for the GPU is 105 C and the card is tested to operate reliably up to this limit."

The joke is already dead though.

This is what Nvidia says about the GTX 480's temps:

 

"Depending on operating environment of the card, users should expect to see normal 3D GPU temperatures in the low to mid 90's (Celsius) on GeForce GTX 480/470. The maximum temperature for the GPU is 105 C and the card is tested to operate reliably up to this limit."

 

The joke is already dead though.

I am subbed t a youtuber who upgraded to a r390 from GTX280s in SLI

I am subbed t a youtuber who upgraded to a r390 from GTX280s in SLI

What a waste of money. Should've gotten a 390 instead.