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Atheists


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I don't understand them. Why would anyone choose to not believe in a God, or at the very least an afterlife? You can imagine any afterlife you want, you can come up with your own religion and your own thoughts on what might lie beyond this life, but you choose to believe that we're just an accident and on our way to rot in the ground?

 

Now that I think of it, does being atheist mean you just don't believe in any God or you don't believe in any concept of an afterlife or anything like that?

 

Anyway back to the main point... Even if scientists were to prove that we evolved and that the entire universe was capable of creating itself, that does not rule out the possibility of a God or an afterlife. Science can tell us many things, but you can always keep asking "why". Why is something like gravity a law of the universe? Why does anything even exist? In the end the only answers science will be able to offer to questions like these are "it's just the way it is".

 

Why would anyone accept an answer like that when there's so much more hope in an answer they could even come up with themselves? I dunno, it's pretty depressing to think that way in my opinion

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Not really. It'd just be incredibly inefficient and pointless.

 

Well, we can conduct experiments and while they have a margin of error, a good experiment can provide (almost conclusive) evidence to show that faith doesn't affect anything.

 

And please don't say that it's not proof that the power of faith does not exist. It's not conclusive proof, but it's close enough, for everyone.

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Well, we can conduct experiments and while they have a margin of error, a good experiment can provide (almost conclusive) evidence to show that faith doesn't affect anything.

 

And please don't say that it's not proof that the power of faith does not exist. It's not conclusive proof, but it's close enough, for everyone.

 

It's really not proof and I think you know it's not proof or anywhere close...

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I said it's not proof. But it's pretty damn close. If you can't accept that, then there's no point in experiments, and you might as well just only do math (and maths is a study with absolute proofs), without science.

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-WW2

- The French Revolution

Uh, what?

 

Honestly, I don't care about whatever argument is going on here, but please check your facts before asserting a historical event was something it wasn't.

 

Anyone who says World War II and the French Revolution were religious wars hasn't bothered to study them.

 

These were secular wars over secular reasons. Might I also add that these were not only secular but were, in places, heavily influenced by atheism, Darwinism, and materialism.

 

Such as when atheists had a fun time executing Catholic clergy who refused to join their "Cult of Reason" during the French Revolution.

 

Or perhaps when Hitler spent too much time reading Friedrich Nietzsche and Charles Darwin which culminated in 6 million+ people being killed in concentration camps for being 'racially inferior'.

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Uh, what?

 

Honestly, I don't care about whatever argument is going on here, but please check your facts before asserting a historical event was something it wasn't.

 

Anyone who says World War II and the French Revolution were religious wars hasn't bothered to study them.

 

These were secular wars over secular reasons. Might I also add that these were not only secular but were, in places, heavily influenced by atheism, Darwinism, and materialism.

 

Such as when atheists had a fun time executing Catholic clergy who refused to join their "Cult of Reason" during the French Revolution.

 

Or perhaps when Hitler spent too much time reading Friedrich Nietzsche and Charles Darwin which culminated in 6 million+ people being killed in concentration camps for being 'racially inferior'.

I just love it when people who actually know facts about things set the record straight. Here is a much deserved brohoof Lady Rarity /)

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Or perhaps when Hitler spent too much time reading Friedrich Nietzsche and Charles Darwin which culminated in 6 million+ people being killed in concentration camps for being 'racially inferior'.

 

Can I say, that most wars (almost all of them) are not motivated by religions? Or atheism? Because there are always more important factors at play. The Catholic Clergy were hurting the poor (just like the noblemen) and the third estate wanted to get revenge. Not motivated by religion.

 

WWII was caused by poor conditions in Germany (caused by the Treaty of Versailles) was the fuel the primarily drove Germany to War, and to be persuaded by Hitler. And let's say Hitler was atheist (many would argue he is not), does that still mean atheism was the cause of WWII? It was because Hitler was evil, not because of atheism. Do I blame Christianity if some crazy Christian went and killed a non-christian because God (their words not mine) told them to do so? No. I say it's because their friggin crazy.

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consider the opposite situation to understand.

 

a man thinks to himself "I exist, isn't that interesting? I'm going to enjoy existing for a while, to see and experience many things for as long

as this existence lasts"

 

another man tells him "you were designed by an impercievable entity, to live in a certain way - here, i'll fill you in on the rules. Also, apparently you live forever if you follow them - pretty enticing isn't it?"

 

first man, "how do you know that?"

 

second man "I don't need to know, I feel that it is true"

 

first man, "sort of like there being a spider on your shoulder?"

 

second man glances at shoulder to see nothing there.

 

second man, "you had me there for a moment"

 

first man, "I swear it's right there, you missed it"

 

second man "your nuts dude, there's no spider on my shoulder"

 

first man, "I understand the feeling"

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