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Just now, Midnight Solace said:

@Lord Valtasar @Bas @CameoShadowness @JCKane Heh, thanks guys. I didn't know it was that good. I always thought my art is bad.

Better than what I can do, I promise you that   But seriously it was well done.

22 hours ago, Midnight Solace said:

Wow, my art looks crap compared to the others. Great job everypony! And congrats to @Hardway Bet!

You're looks pretty fantastic... and seriously at least you actually drew yours... I just made a banner   (granted had to adjust some things and wasn't originally what I had in mind but )

Also, @Hardway Bet Very nicely drawn and funny!  Congrats no the win. 

Seriously though, I think I'm the only one who didn't actually draw (rather digitally or by hand) their submission.

3 hours ago, Midnight Solace said:

I think it will show up on the "events" place at the forums home page. But I don't know when results will come... 

ok thanks.

When and where will the winner be announced?

So, submitted my entry... Not what I how I was originally going to do it but the thing I needed to work didn't work so... 

I got an error saying I'm not allowed to view the content... error code: 2T252/2  That is normal right?

when's the due date for the contest?

On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 9:31 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

my theory is that ponies could've once been humans, which is why much of their items are designed for human handling.

Can't say I agree with this theory.  Seems more random in my opinion with no otherwise reasoning for it.  In fact, it's also a bit strange how in the EG movies they found the human world strange.  Just I feel it doesn't point to it is all.

3 hours ago, sweetolebob18 said:

Some fanfics assume that EQ was in contact with humans in ancient times. This is usually treated like the EQ equivalent of flying saucer conspiracy theories. The usual government reason given is that they're made for minotaurs or griffons.

Possibly, though I mean, there ARE bi-pedaled creatures who DO have 'hands' as seen in the MLP Movie... so I'd honestly feel that's more the reason for it than anything tbh.

3 hours ago, PiratePony said:

The simple answer would be otherwise it would be unrecognizable to the viewer, because, television show.

See, my issue with that is that there are multiple other objects that have been 'ponified' to fit with the lore yet teacups are left with their handles, despite it not being needed.  And I'm pretty sure you could tell it's a 'teacup' without a handle.  If I'm not mistaken, not all teacups IRL even have handles.

1 minute ago, Lord Valtasar said:

one character must have all 3, you can of course add more characters, with any traits on them, but at least one of them must combine all 3

ah ok.

7 minutes ago, Jeric said:

Levitation spells are also able to allow its user enough control to exert torque (they open jars), so gripping is a thing in-universe. Gripping something is usually easier than balancing something while lifting, as there are less degrees of movement required with gripping, and again it becomes a built in training tool for fillies and colts to learn to focus the spell. Of course this assumes that unicorns posses an innate proprioception type essence that goes beyond their own body. Without that control at the level shown on screen falls apart. 

You do realize you're proving my point.   If they grip the handle they would have to 'balance' the teacup as they are griping it off center.  Thus grabbing the entire thing would be much easier.

For example.  Go find a glass with a handle (rathe a teacup or not) then pick it up by the handle. Next pick it up by holding it by the brim of the mouth, or even at the bottom.  Notice how the cup seems heavier when you pick it up via the handle vs the other two ways.  The handle allows for a better grip, but does not help with the weight of the object.

And when it comes to levitating. I'm pretty sure it'd be easier to apply it more to surround the entire object then to grab it just by the handle.  (plus, most ponies actually grab it by the entire object, and not just the handle.)

3 minutes ago, Jeric said:

Real world answer is obvious so I’ll pretend to go for an in-universe theory that focuses on handles, unicorns, and borrows heavily on how implements have evolved in society. 

Levitation spells seem to be hit and miss with the rules surrounding them. I take it to mean that some unicorns that are simply better than others. So if you are a unicorn and you are levitating a cup to drink from it and also are controlling the contained liquid, your lack of precision is inviting a mess and a waste. Enter handles of various styles and types. The unicorns can now be taught at a young age to focuse the levitation spell on the handle part only to manipulate the cup. The secondary benefit is that it also allows additional practice for unicorns to refine this ubiquitous skill further and become more precise with their control. 

Since all tribes seem to gather together the style and design may have caught on beyond gradually becoming the standard. 

I mean IRL reasons they probably just did it because teacups have handles and they prefer to just leave it in there...

But I dunno.  I feel like levitating the handle only would be harder than levitating the entire teacup.  Since levitating the teacup itself they could set it in the middle or what not and not have to worry about anything.  Levitating the handle would cause more of a problem as it's off center of the item and thus would require more effort to make sure they keep the teacup up right or else it'd just have the handle up in the air with the teacup itself on it's end.

6 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

Where are you getting this from? One may hypothesize that they use them less because they can't afford to make them or import tea for the cups intended purpose.

I mean most of the episodes with gryphins show them using normal cups of some kind.  And I didn't say they don't ever do, I said they don't tend too, meaning there's not enough of them that do (nor enough of them compared to the pony populous) for teacups with handles to be made because of them.  also if I recall, wasn't there an episode with RD's friend (forgot her name :/ ) dissing teacups or something like that?

 

9 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

Yes, or they copy the original design made by other creatures because that's how they made them and the change in appearance from a standard handleless cup is appealing. There is still the practical purpose that the handle allows you to hang the cup on a hook which could act as an efficient means of display and storage.

One of the things I thought about tbh.  Them being brought in from before Equitria was founded... Though I mean... aren't most teacups stored without the use of the handle?

2 minutes ago, TwilySparky said:

I've constantly pondered that too. It makes sense for unicorns and maybe pegasi since they can use their wings like hands most of the time. But earth ponies? They have to use their hooves or teeth with everything. Imagine someone like Big Mac trying to use a teacup with his enormous hooves, almost impossible. I think it's just some human reference that they completely left in the show, but who knows!

That assumes there's even humans in their world... granted there are anthros, but dunno about humans.

Also, Pegasus don't typically use their wings to pick up things.. at least too big things.  They use them more for expressions and even handshakes.   Not to mention, with Unicorns, they float the teacup so why does it need a handle?

Does a School Bus count?  If so... then Years ago

Never been on a train.

So, there's always been one thing that's bothered me about the world of MLP:FIM, and that's with some of the items in the world.  Things like, teacups and other things with handles that just weren't meant for a pony to hold.  I mean, have you SEEN a pony hold a teacup by the handle?  (Pinkie Pie's hair doesn't count ) So, it honestly makes me wonder, why would the pony's create such items that they can't even use?   You COULD say it's a visual element but I mean, the show has adjusted items to fit for a Pony, like cameras.  So why are teacups with handles still a thing?

So I was thinking of this and maybe the answer lies beyond Equistria's borders.  I mean, inside we got primarily hooved ponies, Dragons(who don't really use teacups, aside for Spike ), and Gryphins, who CAN use teacups but they don't tend too, and they're not as many of them compared to the pony population.  Yet outside, we got all kinds of various types of creatures, and a good chunk of them have actual hands or claws.   So it makes me wonder, does Equistria import things like teacups from other places outside Equistria?  Or do they just make it like that because teacups were always made with handles before Equistria was even founded?

Anyways, just some of my thoughts on it, what do you guys think of the subject?

So, all three traits much be exhibited by the same character?  So I couldn't like separate them into 3 separate characters on the same image or a combination for like 2?

On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 5:48 AM, TwilySparky said:

That would be pretty weird if they were anything other than human.  In the EqG world, I don't think there is any other species that is sentient other than humans.

That's the thing... it doesn't seem to matter rather the species in the human world can talk or not as with the case for Spike.  Dogs can't talk in the EG world yet when Spike traveled to EG he became a dog but was still able to speak.  The Spike FROM the EG world got to talk because he was hit by Equestrian magic in the 3rd movie.

 

On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 2:25 PM, DonMaguz said:

In my opinion, if the student six ever go to the human world, then Ember should definitely be a dog otherwise the horrible decision about making Spike a dog would be even more of an insult to the little guy

Honestly, I don't think making Spike a dog wa a horrible decision.  In fact I think it makes sense.  Spike is the 'sidekick' to the Mane six, and though he's treated like family, in some ways he's like their pet.  As talking pet.  You COULD argue that he's more a baby/infant or child but he's still a companion to Twilight.  In EG, Spike being say a human child would be a bit strange as you'd have to ask why Twilight is hanging around a little baby, that's not related to her.  Spike being a dog allows him to fufil all the roles he's got in FIM without adding any kinds of issues.

On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 2:25 PM, DonMaguz said:

Because of that issue, I think the student six, and any dragon, should never go to the human world. In fact it will probably be best that no new Equestrian creature visits the human world again.

Honestly, I have my doubts they'll even add the Student 6 to EG.  Though, I feel like they'd all be human if they did :/  

 

On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 7:15 PM, Ganondorf8 said:

Since the Kirin are the closest in terms of resemblance to ponies, if any of them were to go to the human world, they might end up looking like humans though their scales might be an issue.

The Kirin (thought they were Sirens?) Had scales too didn't they?

 

On ‎10‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 8:35 PM, PoisonClaw said:

Well, assuming that only hooved creatures become human when they pass through the mirror, then Sandbar, Yona, Silverstream and Ocellus would probably become human, while Smolder would probably end up as a dog. Gallus... might become human? I mean, I've seen humanized Gilda before, so it's a possibility.  

I mean technically Silverstream has Clawed front and back hooves so :/  And you have seen Gilda in EG?



Also, what about other species?  Like the movie introduced us to a TON of new types of species, including more humanoid ones. Like the cat guy and the pirates.. and the storm King?

(admittedly, one of the things I dislike about the Movie as I preferred Equistria being the name of the planet with it being mostly populated by Ponies... But seems based on the movie Ponies primarily reside in this one area of the planet. )

8 hours ago, BornAgainBrony said:

I guess. She kind of HAS been upstaged though. She apparently didn't lose much from not winning the band competition. It's also interesting that she didn't try to win the crown. Not enough room for screentime?

Well, it's possible that the reason she didn't go after the crown was because she feared Sunset like the rest... maybe in EG Trixie was actually upstaged by Sunset and thus didn't want any part in trying to win the crown.  I mean if I remember in that movie, the only thing she did do was order some snacks from a vending machine

Plus in Forget me not... didn't she also state something like "Once a villain always a villain" perhaps while she DOES recognize the change in Sunset she doesn't want to admit it since she had a bit of a grudge against her for said upstaging.

That or maybe it's the whole "Ursa Major" thing.  She can talk big but when the real threat is there, well she knows she can't do anything so she 'hides'... in this case She recognizes Sunset as being the 'threat' and thus tends to stay away from her, or tries not to gain TOO much attention (IE Hide) for fear of getting on Sunset's radar.

Side note... wonder when we'll see Discord in EG?  Now that would be an interesting counterpart

1 hour ago, Toon4Thought said:

They could just give her a cameo in the form of a portrait or something. That wouldn't require any outside knowledge and would just be a bonus to those who do know. I don't know why they can't give her at least that.

But honestly, I think it's a neat idea for Sunset's human version to be living in Equestria all this time, for reasons very similar to why pony Sunset moved to the human world. I don't know how they would do this, but it'd be cool to see.

I agree, I wish they'd at least add some kind of portrait but never know.. has Sunset even been in FIM world long enough to GET a pic made?  Pretty sure they don't want any human pics but like a Pony pic... :/

Also, they COULD do another EG Special where the human 6 meet the Human version of Sunset, then at the end of the episode she goes to FIM world.

OR, she could just not have lived in Equestria.. the movie shows the EQ is just the name of the country they're from.  Not the planet's name :/

32 minutes ago, Toon4Thought said:

Even with that in mind, why can't they just give her a cameo as a portrait or something? It's not like those who don't watch EqG would need to know anything, since it'd be just a little extra for those who do know about her.

You'd have to ask the creators about that... Cuz I'd actualy wish they would... even made a topic about it

26 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

 

That's called avoiding it.

There's a difference between "Actively avoiding something" and "Simply not looking for it".

6 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

 

You seem to have missed this.

No, I didn't miss it.  I'm simply going based on how they would introduce it.

After all, the show is targeted towards those young children, and thus they'd want to set it up that way.  Not to mention, just because they know of Sunset Shimmer, doesn't mean they really know of the sanificants of her.  They could simply not want to watch EG and not really talk about it... which they don't really have too have 'gone out of their way to avoid' it either.  Simply they just don't pay attention to things revolved around it.

So, I'm a little curious about this.  First of all, like what FIM species become humans is rather curious.

Cuz, like ponies become Humans, but sirens become humans too.  yet Dragon's become Dogs?  Granted, it fit Spike's roll better for him to become a dog vs a human (since it'd be a bit harder for him to be a sidekick but still.)

But what about other creatures?  Would any of them become humans or other animals?

And if the Student 6 made an appearance in EG... would THEY be all humans?  (even though Cynder's a dragon... but her ROLE would make her a human like her friends.) 

On ‎9‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 4:37 PM, Sepul-Coloratura said:

For me, treating a plushie like a live pet is weirder than having a baby alligator. (not just liking the thing a lot, but actually acting despite the reality.) I also don’t think Pinkie is insane.

I mean, Pony Pinkie Pie also treats Gummy like he's more 'trained' than what he actually is.  So it's not that far fetched a human version would do the same to a stuffed animal, which makes more sense in a fantastical world.

 

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 5:26 PM, Sepul-Coloratura said:

 

EQG is not like real world, it's a cartoon world. There are purple, green, blue, mint colored people, there are people growing wings, having superpowers, shooting laser beams, levitating, etc.

Those "Wings, Superpowers, shooting Laser Beams and Levitating"... aren't from the human world as it's a result of magic from the EG world escaping into their own.  The skin colors is just a design choice as it's not the first cartoon to feature more 'realistic' settings but still feature characters of strange skin colors.  Doug is an example of this.

On ‎9‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 3:13 PM, SharpWit said:

She's come back twice and reconciled with Celestia, and the show has been going on long enough to where I think everyone besides small children should know who she is by this point unless they've gone out of their way to avoid Equestria Girls. I think DonMaguz's way of having her be summoned by the map works best, and since she knows Twilight and Starlight Glimmer she can basically be treated as an old friend. We've been introduced to several diverse new characters in recent times so I don't see how there'd be too much of a hiccup over it.

Umm... Both times Sunset returned to the Pony world was in the EG series.  So if they just don't watch EG they'd not have seen those episodes.

Anyways, personally, it really depends on what you mean by 'introduce Sunset into FIM'  Do you mean bring her in as a more main stay? (like Starlight or Trixy or even Discord) or just for a single event?  (rather it spands episodes or not.)

If for the 'special event' personally it'd work best as either a EG special or maybe more dubbed as a EG/FIM cross over special (yeah it's happened before but this would be fully dubbed a cross over event).

But if you mean to bring her into the series as a more main stay... I'd actually say the better way would be to use the 'missing' "Human" Sunset.  (IE the one that was born in the human world)… Perhaps she was sent back to the pony world for some way and the Friendship map calls them there.  Twilight COULD make a reference to the other one but otherwise just ignore the other one.

However, if they DID add her, it'd not be the first time they tied in a 'movie'.  As in they did tie in the MLP: FIM Movie and gave brief explanation' for the events for those who hadn't seen the movie.

6 minutes ago, TBD said:

Which it's kinda ironic because you would think human would be more annoying  than ponies.

While I don't find Pinkie Pie to be annoying, I can possibly see why people think that.

after all, due to the fact that Pony Pinkie is in a more 'magical world' she's allowed to 'defiy the laws of physics' to a certain extent thus allow her to go 'over the top' more often.

Human Pinkie is ofcourse, bound by the rules of well, being a in a non-magical human world.  That doesn't mean she's not 'broken the laws of physics' from time to time but since it's more rooted in 'reality' (than MLP anyways.) they keep some things a bit more realistic.

Thing is, I don't see him as a super bad character... or even a bad character.  I just think that he was honestly 'written out' before they could really start developing his backstory too much.  Cuz we don't spend too much time with him to get to really know him anyways.  And since he was pretty much written out, we really don't get much more for him.

Other background characters, well we actually spend time with them, thus we do get to know more about them.  You can't 'judge' the character if they don't show what's going on in his own life.