Are there other ponies who could outdo the mane 6 in representing the Elements?

[ggg-2 3,554]

In Pinkie Pride, Pinkie meets Cheese Sandwich, a pony that was capable of outdoing even her as a party thrower (after she, herself, inspired him), and possibly even outdo her in representing the element of laughter. That said, do you think there are other ponies in Equestria who could possibly outdo the other Mane 6 members in representing their respective elements?

[Nuke87654 1,849]

In Pinkie Pride, Pinkie meets Cheese Sandwich, a pony that was capable of outdoing even her as a party thrower (after she, herself, inspired him), and possibly even outdo her in representing the element of laughter. That said, do you think there are other ponies in Equestria who could possibly outdo the other Mane 6 members in representing their respective elements?

 

Possibly, but until we see those ponies come forth, we can't really say for certain if that is the case as after all, the elements of harmony did chose them specifically.

[WindShear 545]

It is possible that there are other ponies that represent individual elements as well or better than certain members of the Mane 6.

 

What makes the Mane 6 special though is the fact that they not only represent their elements, but also have a deep bond of friendship with each other.

[Pinkamena-Pills 6,840]

In Pinkie Pride, Pinkie meets Cheese Sandwich, a pony that was capable of outdoing even her as a party thrower (after she, herself, inspired him)

Cheese Sandwhich din't "outdo" Pinkie. Just because a car is louder,doesn't make it better. 

 

 

 

possibly even outdo her in representing the element of laughter.

 

Then why isn't he the Element of Laughter then? Are the writers are lost/confused as to who best represents the Elements they came up with? 

 

 

 

do you think there are other ponies in Equestria who could possibly outdo the other Mane 6 members in representing their respective elements?

 

No,because then i say why aren't these mysterious ponies the Elements of Harmony and not the mane 6. 

 

However,if you are speaking into the future as in beyond the mane 6's time,then yes,as the EoH will need to be passed down unless the mane 6 become immortal -- which is a different discussion all together. 

Edited August 30, 2014 by Pinkamena-Pills

[Invincible 2,092]

Even if there were individuals who have the correct affinity towards the six elements, they would have to become best friends for the collective power of harmony to work. The union of the mane 6 was perhaps set in destiny and fate. They not only represent the elements perfectly, but also have the natural friendship between them needed for them to work. An individual element cut off from the rest is useless.

[Jeric 46,878]

I personally agree with Pills. Each of the Mane Six did not get selected to represent the EoH because of one moment, or because they were the best available at the time due to proximity. There is some destiny going on here, to be sure. I feel that each of them are the best representatives of their respective Elements in all of Equestria and beyond. Their individual moment in FiM Part 2 didn't make the rocks ot Tree of Harmony go, "Hmmm your resume looks impressive, you are best candidate we have seen. You're hired!"

 

They were the only candidates. The only ones who could do it.

 

Also, talent =/= the assigned Element. Job =/= talent (all of the time). That is important to consider since we are talking about Cheese.

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Well, I'm sure you could write in characters that better represented the elements of friendship and deus ex machina. I'm absolutly sure that in a world as vast as theirs, there are better people for the job. But they work so well because of their ability to cooperate with the other element barers and work together as a team. Sure, Cheese is better at representing laughter, but he has displayed the will and want to work as a solo entity rather than in a cohesive team. But if you are just going to go off s1 ep1 then yes, it was all rather coincitental/fate that the other mane 5 are who they are. If the secondary representatives that you see in some of the key episodes were in ponyville to assist then yes there might be a different team. But this is a tv show, so no matter who you swap out there are always going to be forced issues and conflicts between the team and you are always going to have instences of them not being the best hero due to either writer incompetence or a forced narritive issue.

[KokuraiNoSenshi 3,465]

They may be able to do outdo them in their Elements, but what another pony won't be able to do is (*warning, sap incoming*) is beat them in their personality. Personally I find the mane 6's personalities to be incredibly strong, stronger than most character personalities. Each pony has the right flaws & the right positives to create amazing characters, & to imply that the writers could somehow create such amazingly 3-Dimensional characters all over again is insane. The writers are good but they are only human, & they have somehow done something I never thought would be possible; They wrote characters who seem to be balanced perfectly.

 

From FlutterShy's shyness too Dash's boldness, & Rarity's generosity to Applejack's honesty, there really is no other ponies like the Mane 6. Look at any one of the ponies, & you can tell that their personalities are highly 3-D. Let's look at just 2 of them, shall we?

 

FlutterShy

 

FlutterShy; FS's flaws are pretty obvious; She is shy, very non-confrontational, & introverted, creating a huge rift between her & her more extroverted friends. This makes her extremely hard to open up to & be opened up, as she would prefer to hide away with her animals than be a part of the spotlight. However her positives are pretty obvious, such as her kindness & her very selfless attitude (due in part to her non-confrontational attitude). However there is more under the surface. The average life span of her animals might not be as long as her's, which means she most likely has experienced death repeatedly over however long she has been alive. Hell if she has lived even a decade she most likely has lost quite a few animal friends. We saw how she reacted to Philomena (think that is how it is spelled) supposedly died. She was devastated. Imagine how she must have felt, watching, say, a family of rabbits grow up only to see several generations die before her eyes, unable to help them before... Well... You know... How strong of a person/pony would someone who has consistently shown to be very easily influenced by sadness be for them to wake up every day, knowing that this might be the day that she has to help birth a new generation only for the older one(s) to leave forever? This is only scratching the surface of her personality, & in the years to come who knows how many more of these moments she will have to go through, yet will still smile & be kind to everyone she meets.

 

 

As you can tell, just one pony can take quite a bit of time to even scratch the surface of, let alone go into huge detail, so only one more & then moving on;

 

Pinkie Pie

 

Pinkie Pie has been shown to be weak whenever her family/friends is not happy with her attempts to be funny or endearing. She is heavily influenced by those around her, because she seems to be unable to be happy on her own. Of course she is funny, & kind, & is always ready to help. But the fact of the matter is is that she craves... No she needs approval. She needs to be accepted or else she quickly spirals off without control. Of course this means that her happy, laughing exterior is very much a facade of her most likely incredibly sad interior. How many ponies do you think she had to test her abilities on before becoming good at making others happy? How many people just refused to be changed? Maybe eventually they cracked but it could have taken awhile, each time denying her attempts while all the time she kept getting rejected over & over again. That would have scarred her for life. Sure she eventually was strong enough too beat back the feelings of rejection, but it would have taken a long time to do that. The ability to bounce back from such seriously upsetting moments would take real courage & strength to move on, hell I would argue that Pinkie & FlutterShy are the strongest of all the Mane 6 for these reasons alone.

 

 

Hopefully you get my point by now. All of the Mane 6 could be replaced as the Elements, sure. But who could replace the ponies themselves? No one/pony, that's who. They could never be replaced, because no one/pony could replace such beautiful, amazing, & powerful characters as the Mane 6, our Mane 6. FlutterShy, Rarity, Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Applejack. These 6 ponies have created a gorgeous & wonderful world & group, & there may be other kind, or honest, or loyal, or whatever element ponies out there, but there will never be anyone/pony like the Mane 6's ponies.

[sweetolebob18 728]

IMO, there are a vast number of ponies that could, potentially, have been the Elements of Harmony. (Remember Celestia & Luna used them 1st)  The strength of the rainbow effect depends on 2 things.  1) How well does each pony represent their Element? & 2) How good is their friendship?

 

In support of this idea, I point to Return of Harmony.  The 1st time they tried to use the Elements, they were not feeling very close (IIRC, Twilight said something to the effect of "let's get this over with so I never have to speak to my friends again -the jerks") + Spike was substituting for Dash.  They got a rainbow, but it was very feeble & ineffective.  This also shows you can try to use the Elements even if you are not one & you won't get hurt if your intentions are good.  If I was trying to steal them, I'd be very careful not to touch them though.