A little Project

[Doz2nd 294]

I've started on a time consuming project. The sketch is mostly complete, just the small things left like coloring and shading.  ^(irony)
 
-  Can anyone say where this scene comes from?
 
- ...and critic is always appreciated.  So I got some critic... basically reshape the whole image  .  _{(at least I learned something that has eluded me)}

 

Is the newspaper in a better angle now, or do I need to add more PLANKS?
 

  

 

To all Lyra lovers, I know she's a bit different, like not a unicorn, not the same Cutie-mark. But that's just part of the painting and is intentional.

Edited January 16, 2015 by Doz2nd

[SFyr 1,982]

I actually really like this--it seems to actually have a theme or emotion behind it, where it tells a fragment of a story rather than the normal small character pieces common to this forum.  I commend you for taking on a larger work such as this.

 

I have a few (hopefully constructive) criticisms to make though, since you said you're welcoming them.

 

-> What you're going for seems to be a one-point perspective, where a single point on the horizon is marked as the point where all things disappear towards. This actually gives a lot of the edges of buildings and other objects in space a reference point for their form. When you draw a line outwards from this point, it will usually fall over the sides of each building when the 'front' is visible to the viewer. For example:

 

 

In this image, the vanishing point is made pretty clear by the road disappearing into it--but notice a lot of lines disappear towards it also, giving the image depth.

While yours looks right, some parts of it are still a little off when you look closer. Using the most prominent two lines of the path, I found where they were indicating the vanishing point to was located.

 

 

I then worked out from that vanishing point, and found some of the other parts of the buildings and such were in disagreement. It's not as bad as it looks, since we don't seem to be viewing the largest building from directly on (which would skew other lines abit), but I think I can still see a disagreement among key parts regardless (like how on the right side, it's still disappearing to the left).

* Also, this line can help people/ponies agree in height, since they obey similar laws at least in terms of scale.

 

-> I also found the newspaper a little off, figured the 'why' was the only other thing I can really offer constructive criticism on. As with the vanishing point, when you look closely at spots that don't seem to agree, it can throw the image a bit. As it stands, it doesn't look like it's resting on a flat surface at the same inclination as the path hinted at elsewhere. To practice, you may want to make a grid of squares on a path similar to what you have now, and shorten each row as it disappears further and further in the horizon. It should (I hope) give you a little better sense of scale and incline when placing objects in a 3d space, as something square would end up taking only a 'little' bit of distance towards the vanishing point, and a moderate bit of width.

 

As an amateur, that's probably all I can say at this point, haha. I don't mean it to be discouraging. Just that looking into and practicing with one/two/three point perspectives can make images such as this more solid. 

This shows a good bit of promise regardless, and I like what I see.  I wish you the best with finishing it!

 

EDIT: Sorry, missed the first image, haha...

Edited January 12, 2015 by SFyr

[Doz2nd 294]

Bunch of text and "one" image

Thanks, I actually learned something.   I did see that there was something wrong with the perspective, and you gave me the tools to fix it  

Much appreciated!

-> I also found the newspaper a little off, figured the 'why' was the only other thing I can really offer constructive criticism on.

 

The newspaper was the first thing that I drew on that paper. So in theory it's the only thing that is right, the rest is out of perspective.

[SFyr 1,982]

@@Doz2nd, glad to hear. I hope you finish this up and continue working with art.   And yeah, sorry I left off the first picture at first--I kinda found a better one, removed what I had previously, and forgot to put in its replacement.

Either way, when working with larger backgrounds and environments, using a vanishing point is actually quite useful to keep everything more consistent. I personally loved learning about it, and haven't really dropped it since. Of course, said vanishing point can be one of two (or sometimes three), or even be off the page depending on the image.

 

*Also, if the main building is not viewed from directly on, the side portions are likely not going to fit perfectly to the black lines I drew--but I think they'd be a bit closer than they are currently I think. 

 

Good luck!

 

 

^{_{I bet that newspaper feels horrible for throwing everything out of perspective! kekeke}}

[Doz2nd 294]

 

 

*Also, if the main building is not viewed from directly on, the side portions are likely not going to fit perfectly to the black lines I drew--but I think they'd be a bit closer than they are currently I think.

 

I understood the method so I kinda drew my own.

[Tameless 979]

Very very nice. I personally love buildings and drawing the layouts of them.

 

Nice walking dead reference as well.

[RainbowTashie 378]

I've started on a time consuming project. The sketch is mostly complete, just the small things left like coloring and shading.  ^(irony)

 

-  Can anyone say where this scene comes from?

 

- ...and critic is always appreciated.  So I got some critic... basically reshape the whole image  .  _{(at least I learned something that has eluded me)}

 

 

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To all Lyra lovers, I know she's a bit different, like not a unicorn, not the same Cutie-mark. But that's just part of the painting and is intentional.

This looks great i wish i could do landscapes and the like

[Doz2nd 294]

@@SFyr I'm trying to save the newspaper from 'the eraser'. Do you think it's in the green yet?

[SFyr 1,982]

@@Doz2nd, ehh. Mentally isolating it, I would still say it's acting like the vanishing point/horizon is higher than it actually is. It's a bit less distracting, and I have slightly less reservations about it, but it still seems a little too frontally-viewed.    

Bearing in mind the horizon isn't as low as the reference image--do you see the paper at the bottom right in the screenshot? That looks to be a newspaper or some kind of flat/rectangular trash. Again, yours won't be that extreme, but I think it ideally should still be a little more tilted. 

 Regardless, I think your drawing looks more solid now. Probably sacrificed the angled look of the building (not a bad thing, just a choice that was originally there from the camera angle), but the depth is more believable--it looks more like a building set firmly in space looming large in front of the viewer, rather than a large object that is simply there, if that makes sense.

Edited January 16, 2015 by SFyr

[Doz2nd 294]

 

 

The idea is that the newspaper is tilted upwards, about 45 degrees. The followup image shows "Lyra" reading the headline. She somehow managed to find a way to 'earth' only to find that us humans are missing. (Totally different then the reference plot).

 

I didn't really tell the whole tale about my 'Little Project'.

 

Note to self: I think I should stop multitasking, at the moment I'm working on 3 images and story writing... Still it gives me some options when I get bored.

[SFyr 1,982]

@@Doz2nd, I hold no issue with multitasking, haha. Ideally only focus on one thing at each moment in time, but over a wider birth (at least for writers), I'm told it can actually help to have multiple projects outstanding. Lets you use your mood more effectively, as you have different choices that capitalize on said different moods. 

 

Also, I like the idea presented. How far are you with the story?

 

Also... so the newspaper is like, propped up? If that's the case I can support that angle, but the backing may need to be a little further to the back, like it's kicked up against it instead of draped flatly over it.  As always: personal opinion, not universal view.