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[Primarch Fulgrim 163]

Ok so its eting me up, I shall explain the fundamentals of Slaanesh. So in theory he exists every day and has influence in everybody, Slaanesh that part of your body that likes pleasure and excess (ex. eating more pizza than you need because you like it, sleeping in, doing leisure activities ect.) 

You can choose to accept him for what he is, a fundamental part of your being, or not. Slaaneshi worship is based kinda around "Until proven otherwise, you have one shot on this rock, make it good" And acknowledging that part of you can help you is fundamental in understanding of the self. 

We don't discriminate against other beliefs, if you want to join you can be a part of any other belief system. (It would be interesting to see how many people agree/disagree with this) 

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

Fulgrim, You deserve a goddamn medal. I'm serious.

 

I like it how you make a point about Slaanesh being a part of natural order, and in turn, human nature. Acceptance of it's effect on our lives, and that it's a force of nature, rather than some high chair tyrant that demnds your worship, also deserves applause. Denial of it's existence, or actual fight against said force puts a dam on our stream of energy and can be potentially harmful. Letting it flow, and perhaps encouraging it, is akin to letting a river flow unobstructed, bringing life to all it finds. 

 

It's actually funny how the Chaos Gods of Warhammer, and the Warp in general, fits as a way to explain the workings of Higher planes of existence, according to my sources atleast.

 

According to my miserable excuse of research, Gods and other spiritual beings, as a rule, are made by dedicated mortal minds. Without it, their energy flows back to the general sea of free flowing energy. However, all mortal thoughts and emotions, as a whole, affect said "sea", creating currents and the like. So, by stamping a name on your experience of pleasure, and giving it some dedication and focus, you are effectively making a change in the sea of spiritual energy (the scope of said change is proportional to the strength of your experiences and the amount of focus you can muster while scratching your itch). If enough minds share this dedication to experiencing pleasure, and put the same name on it... that's right, Slaanesh is born!

 

But alas, as I've mentioned earlier, I very well may be completely wrong, since I don't have any tangible proof other than a small metaanalysis of various written sources. Just so you know that I won't defend my viewpoint if provided a better perspective.

 

This thread is getting better and better.

[Primarch Fulgrim 163]

Fulgrim, You deserve a goddamn medal. I'm serious.

 

I like it how you make a point about Slaanesh being a part of natural order, and in turn, human nature. Acceptance of it's effect on our lives, and that it's a force of nature, rather than some high chair tyrant that demnds your worship, also deserves applause. Denial of it's existence, or actual fight against said force puts a dam on our stream of energy and can be potentially harmful. Letting it flow, and perhaps encouraging it, is akin to letting a river flow unobstructed, bringing life to all it finds. 

 

It's actually funny how the Chaos Gods of Warhammer, and the Warp in general, fits as a way to explain the workings of Higher planes of existence, according to my sources atleast.

 

According to my miserable excuse of research, Gods and other spiritual beings, as a rule, are made by dedicated mortal minds. Without it, their energy flows back to the general sea of free flowing energy. However, all mortal thoughts and emotions, as a whole, affect said "sea", creating currents and the like. So, by stamping a name on your experience of pleasure, and giving it some dedication and focus, you are effectively making a change in the sea of spiritual energy (the scope of said change is proportional to the strength of your experiences and the amount of focus you can muster while scratching your itch). If enough minds share this dedication to experiencing pleasure, and put the same name on it... that's right, Slaanesh is born!

 

But alas, as I've mentioned earlier, I very well may be completely wrong, since I don't have any tangible proof other than a small metaanalysis of various written sources. Just so you know that I won't defend my viewpoint if provided a better perspective.

 

This thread is getting better and better.

Thanks alot! Really nice to hear some support. Now all we need I need is a few followers, its a pretty lax belief on who can join.  

[4april 374]

My family is Hindu but I am an atheist.

 

However I still respect Hinduism as part of my culture. Hinduism is a very scientific religion and had made great progress long ago.

 

We knew that the Earth was round and that it went around the sun way before Copernicus 'discovered'it and we also knew the accurate value of pi to name a few.

[SugarfootWillie 383]

Ok so its eting me up, I shall explain the fundamentals of Slaanesh. So in theory he exists every day and has influence in everybody, Slaanesh that part of your body that likes pleasure and excess (ex. eating more pizza than you need because you like it, sleeping in, doing leisure activities ect.) 

You can choose to accept him for what he is, a fundamental part of your being, or not. Slaaneshi worship is based kinda around "Until proven otherwise, you have one shot on this rock, make it good" And acknowledging that part of you can help you is fundamental in understanding of the self. 

We don't discriminate against other beliefs, if you want to join you can be a part of any other belief system. (It would be interesting to see how many people agree/disagree with this) 

Thank you so much for elaborating! I'm going to adopt this into my life and flesh out the implications.

 

@@4april, That's cool, how has being raised in that environment affected your character and worldview? Hinduism is by far the most respectable, welcoming, open, and homely religion that I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with. I love everything about it.

Do parody religions such as Russel's Teapot, Utah Teapot, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Invisible Pink Unicornism and $cientology count as paganism, or are they just mumbo-jumbo invented by wiseguys?

Pastafari has definitely grounded itself as an organization, so yea parody religions are cool.

I haven't gotten into Russell yet, what can you tell me about him?

Edited October 29, 2015 by SugarfootWillie

[Miles 2,512]

*Disclaimer: I am a bonafide Christian, a confirmed United Methodist Church member, although I honestly have a few disagreements with some of the UMC's beliefs; I sort of think of myself more truthfully as a Trinitarian Universalist Christian.

But I'm not here to argue or cause trouble.

I just have a few comments to make about things that seem to be misguided information.*
 

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I'm not bound to any set of spiritual or theological definitions, and incorporate many principles from various ideologies. I suppose this would make me a universalist*, but I don't hold myself to be a carrier of their principles.

 

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*univeralism considers every theology and spiritual practice to be valid

 

If you're Pagan, you're Pagan - not a Universalist.  Universalism does not consider every theology - nor every spiritual practice - as valid.

 

I just waned to correct this misguidance, but not just to say "you're wrong" - no, I want to give you the correct information as to show you where your logic went wrong:

Universalist doctrines consider all people in their formation.

So, it considers anyone, regardless of what their religion is.

By the way, that is just speaking about the top-level, non-specific, general Universalism.

However, many specific types of it are geared towards Christianity.  Such Christian Universalist groups are divided on certain topics and issues.  

Though I'm technically a UMC Christian, I think highly of Trinitarian Universalist ideas.

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My family is Hindu but I am an atheist.

However I still respect Hinduism as part of my culture. Hinduism is a very scientific religion and had made great progress long ago.

We knew that the Earth was round and that it went around the sun way before Copernicus 'discovered'it and we also knew the accurate value of pi to name a few.

 

Hinduism probably should not qualify as Pagan, considering it is the third largest religion by population.

~ Miles

[SugarfootWillie 383]

*Disclaimer: I am a bonafide Christian, a confirmed United Methodist Church member, although I honestly have a few disagreements with some of the UMC's beliefs; I sort of think of myself more truthfully as a Trinitarian Universalist Christian.

 

But I'm not here to argue or cause trouble.

 

I just have a few comments to make about things that seem to be misguided information.*

 

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If you're Pagan, you're Pagan - not a Universalist.  Universalism does not consider every theology - nor every spiritual practice - as valid.

 

I just waned to correct this misguidance, but not just to say "you're wrong" - no, I want to give you the correct information as to show you where your logic went wrong:

 

Universalist doctrines consider all people in their formation.

 

So, it considers anyone, regardless of what their religion is.

 

By the way, that is just speaking about the top-level, non-specific, general Universalism.

 

However, many specific types of it are geared towards Christianity.  Such Christian Universalist groups are divided on certain topics and issues.  

 

Though I'm technically a UMC Christian, I think highly of Trinitarian Universalist ideas.

 

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Hinduism probably should not qualify as Pagan, considering it is the third largest religion by population.

 

~ Miles

Thank you very much, I'll be sure to edit my introductory post to more accurately reflect my thoughts. Are there any other resources you can provide that will aid me in better understanding universalism so I can learn more from my mistake?

 

Yea Hinduism isn't really pagan; however, pagan can also mean non-christian.

You are more than welcome to stick around the thread! The insight into ourselves and each other that your beliefs can provide is most valued, and you yourself are as well.

Edited October 30, 2015 by SugarfootWillie

[Miles 2,512]

Thank you very much, I'll be sure to edit my introductory post to more accurately reflect my thoughts. Are there any other resources you can provide that will aid me in better understanding universalism so I can learn more from my mistake?

 

First, as you asked, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism_(disambiguation)

 

Second, for the sake of its contrast, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagan_(disambiguation)

 

And third, for the sake of specificity, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

 

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Yea Hinduism isn't really pagan; however, pagan can also mean non-christian.

You are more than welcome to stick around the thread! The insight into ourselves and each other that your beliefs can provide is most valued, and you yourself are as well.

 

Just to clarify, were you asking 4april to stick around, or myself?  (I presume 4april, but just checking).

 

~ Miles

[4april 374]

That was exactly what I was wondering since Hinduism is a large religion. But wikipedia says that paganism is all non Abrahamic religions.

 

Well, even if it is not, I think learning about other beliefs will be valuable to me. Similarly, I can share what I know!

Edited October 30, 2015 by 4april

[Primarch Fulgrim 163]

That was exactly what I was wondering since Hinduism is a large religion. But wikipedia says that paganism is all non Abrahamic religions.

 

Well, even if it is not, I think learning about other beliefs will be valuable to me. Similarly, I can share what I know!

Yeah paganism was coined by christians when contacting all the other religions they found in difference to their own, before killing them all.

 

Thank you so much for elaborating! I'm going to adopt this into my life and flesh out the implications.

 

Good, I think it's good that people are accepting my message. (On a more Warhammer-tuned note, The fire spreads huehuehuehuehuehue)

[Tinkh_ 239]

I respect Wiccans, they've done an amazing job helping to bring back witchcraft, and other almost forgotten religions.

 

It just aggravates me a bit with how hard they've made it to find traditional witchcraft information since they have a habit of changing things to suit every individuals opinion. By them doing this it takes a lot of research to find original truths. It was only formed in the 1900's.

 

 

 

I haven't used it for anything other than to communicate with the plants that I made the ointment from as of this moment. I intend on using it later to connect more with Brother Hawk. the ointment should allow me to take the form of an animal, after which I intend to deepen our bonds and fly with Him.

 

Oh, I see. If I were to use an ointment it would be, firstly, to see any spirit guides or local spirits. I wouldn't plan on hedge walking otherwise unless someone needed me to desperately.

[Sekr Gray 520]

 

 

do you have a favorite Saga?

I've yet to read them again lately, but the myths of Odin always appealed to me, namely how he sacrificed himself to himself for wisdom.

 

 

 

Ok so its eting me up, I shall explain the fundamentals of Slaanesh. So in theory he exists every day and has influence in everybody, Slaanesh that part of your body that likes pleasure and excess (ex. eating more pizza than you need because you like it, sleeping in, doing leisure activities ect.)  You can choose to accept him for what he is, a fundamental part of your being, or not. Slaaneshi worship is based kinda around "Until proven otherwise, you have one shot on this rock, make it good" And acknowledging that part of you can help you is fundamental in understanding of the self.  We don't discriminate against other beliefs, if you want to join you can be a part of any other belief system. (It would be interesting to see how many people agree/disagree with this) 

 

That honestly sounds a lot like hedonism, considering it relies on simply pleasure to further yourself, or at the very least realizing that it's among the most important things for yourself. 

[Primarch Fulgrim 163]

 

That honestly sounds a lot like hedonism, considering it relies on simply pleasure to further yourself, or at the very least realizing that it's among the most important things for yourself. 

Not quite, you see, we don't necessarily believe that pleasure is the only way forward. We wish to exist in the frame of mind we want to exist in, and yes we think its true that pleasure is very important, Slaanesh encompasses everything that brings joy, be it pleasure or pain. (Don't get me started on Door No. 2. Not my thing)

Edited November 2, 2015 by Primarch Fulgrim

[CuriousPony 157]

I consider myself an ecclectic pagan/ecclectic witch. I haven't gotten to study up as much as I'd like, but I'd like to someday soon. However, I'll have to wait until I get out from under the roof of my christian parents. They're sure that I'm worshiping the devil (which I'm quite obviously not).

 

I believe in the presence of gods and goddesses, and I like to believe the energy of certain mythical creaures exists too (because I also subscribe to the multiverse theory, which means anything is possible due to the endless number of alternate universes out there. And that means mythical creatures have to exist somewhere).

 

I've known different people with different metaphysical talents. One guy who was great at controlling elements. Another who was rather psychic and was really good at predicting how energy was affecting people's bodies. I myself believe I have a talent for spellcasting, but I don't get to do it often.

 

I don't have a patron deity, since deities don't seem to like responding to me. Sometimes I feel that they step into my life when I really need it, but they prefer to do it on their own time, without me asking. However, I feel like I have a connection to animals and the energy of mythical creatures, and I get more day to day help from them than any deity.

 

But anyway, enough rambling from me.