Frostgage 7,976 September 22, 2019 Author Share September 22, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 7:31 PM, Duality said: Same they're so feathery and cute What's your favorite type of bird? (I may have asked this before but not in the context of you really liking birds) Crows <3 this was an easy one. they're just so cool On 9/20/2019 at 7:31 PM, Duality said: -le gasp- Have you never sat under one on a sunny day to have lunch That doesn't sound like something I would do Maybe someday On 9/20/2019 at 7:31 PM, Duality said: What question do you ask other people most often? What question do other people ask you most often? What question do you ask yourself most often? What question would you most like a true answer to? 1. ...I'm just realizing that I don't ask a lot of questions consistently 2. Just boring stuff lol. What's your name, where are you from blah blah. tbh i hate it. That's why your questions are much appreciated 3. "Is (my current activity) the optimal course of action?" 4. "Do you like spending time with me?" 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 September 22, 2019 Share September 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Crows <3 this was an easy one. they're just so cool Objection: what about ravens 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: That doesn't sound like something I would do Maybe someday gotta get you some outdoors in your lungs inhale a butterfly for the full nature experience 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: ...I'm just realizing that I don't ask a lot of questions consistently You already know all the things amirite 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Just boring stuff lol. What's your name, where are you from blah blah. tbh i hate it. That's why your questions are much appreciated Aww thanks Frosty. Your questions are also great <3 Can't imagine myself asking people these sorts of things in person though they're too weird for most social situations 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: "Is (my current activity) the optimal course of action?" Don't forget to find the local maxima using the first derivative 57 minutes ago, Frostgage said: "Do you like spending time with me?" Is this a specific or a general question because if it's specific the answer is definitely yes What would you do if you realised that your entire self only fills about 500 litre-years of spacetime? What would you do if you realised that your personality and mental state changes over time and thus the consciousness you call yourself is actually millions of times more complex than your current personality and mental state? What would you do if you realised that hypothetical situations don't exist except in our minds and thus cannot affect this reality except through influencing our desires and expectations? What would you do if you realised that the existence of human consciousness causes so many philosophical and ontological problems that the only reason we give it any serious consideration is because it's really hard to deny that it does exist? [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 September 23, 2019 Author Share September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 10:28 PM, Duality said: Objection: what about ravens They're pretty similar but it's not fair how everyone thinks ravens are cool and crows are boring. Crows are bros On 9/21/2019 at 10:28 PM, Duality said: You already know all the things amirite "All I know is that I know nothing" On 9/21/2019 at 10:28 PM, Duality said: Don't forget to find the local maxima using the first derivative I understood that reference but I don't want to take up a lot of space by inserting that Captain America meme so I'll just tell you (again) that I understood that reference On 9/21/2019 at 10:28 PM, Duality said: What would you do if you realised that your entire self only fills about 500 litre-years of spacetime? What would you do if you realised that your personality and mental state changes over time and thus the consciousness you call yourself is actually millions of times more complex than your current personality and mental state? What would you do if you realised that hypothetical situations don't exist except in our minds and thus cannot affect this reality except through influencing our desires and expectations? What would you do if you realised that the existence of human consciousness causes so many philosophical and ontological problems that the only reason we give it any serious consideration is because it's really hard to deny that it does exist? 1. are you saying I'm too skinny (i am) 2. are you saying I get too many mood swings (i do) 3. The way I see it, if something tangibly affects reality, then it is real for all practical purposes. I've always been more concerned with practicality/reality than theory 4. If I ever truly realized that my head would explode. This is why I try to focus on doggos and stuff 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 September 24, 2019 Share September 24, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Frostgage said: They're pretty similar but it's not fair how everyone thinks ravens are cool and crows are boring. Crows are bros All you need to do is make an epic edgy catchy poem titled 'The Crow' like how Poe did for ravens 6 hours ago, Frostgage said: "All I know is that I know nothing" All you know = that you know nothing All you know = nothing that you know nothing = nothing that you know = 0 know = -(that you) = -(hat^2 + you) d(know)/dt = d(-(hat^2 + you))/dt = -2hat The rate of change of your knowledge is equal to negative two hats QED 6 hours ago, Frostgage said: are you saying I'm too skinny (i am) Don't worry I'll feed you frozen pizzas until you take up 1000 litre-years 6 hours ago, Frostgage said: The way I see it, if something tangibly affects reality, then it is real for all practical purposes. I've always been more concerned with practicality/reality than theory The concept of unicorns affects reality via our imaginations/minds. Actual unicorns however have never affected reality at all since they've never existed. Conclusion: the concept of unicorns is more real than unicorns themselves Furthermore, theories affect reality via our minds. Reality itself taken as a whole, however, cannot affect reality - parts of reality can affect other parts of reality, parts of reality can affect the whole of reality, but reality as a whole can't affect reality in part or in whole since 1) wholes can't affect their parts if the whole is the sum of its parts and 2) nothing can affect itself without some intermediary otherwise we get recursion and logical inconsistency. Secondary conclusion: theories are more real than the whole of reality is this the world you wanted 6 hours ago, Frostgage said: If I ever truly realized that my head would explode. This is why I try to focus on doggos and stuff "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." Lovecraft knew de wae amirite Which is more to be desired: that which is good or that which is true? Do you allow everyone in the world to live a contented lie or allow free a terrible truth that would result in war and the death of millions? If millions is too steep a cost, what about thousands or hundreds or even just one? If you would indeed choose to tell a truth that cost lives, would it make a difference to your decision if instead of being killed by a resultant war the casualties of truth had to be killed by you, personally, lined up against a brick wall? Also, is it ethical to even think about violent hypothetical situations if they are made real by affecting reality via your mind? Edited September 24, 2019 by Duality 1 [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 September 27, 2019 Author Share September 27, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 9:37 PM, Duality said: All you know = that you know nothing All you know = nothing that you know nothing = nothing that you know = 0 know = -(that you) = -(hat^2 + you) d(know)/dt = d(-(hat^2 + you))/dt = -2hat The rate of change of your knowledge is equal to negative two hats QED That's fine since I don't like hats anyway On 9/23/2019 at 9:37 PM, Duality said: is this the world you wanted yes On 9/23/2019 at 9:37 PM, Duality said: "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." Lovecraft knew de wae amirite Why is it that humans acting logically inevitably leads us to our demise ;-; doesn't seem fair On 9/23/2019 at 9:37 PM, Duality said: Which is more to be desired: that which is good or that which is true? Do you allow everyone in the world to live a contented lie or allow free a terrible truth that would result in war and the death of millions? If millions is too steep a cost, what about thousands or hundreds or even just one? If you would indeed choose to tell a truth that cost lives, would it make a difference to your decision if instead of being killed by a resultant war the casualties of truth had to be killed by you, personally, lined up against a brick wall? Also, is it ethical to even think about violent hypothetical situations if they are made real by affecting reality via your mind? 1. Definitely that which is good. I'm also the person who chooses security over freedom in that debate 2. You can already guess; but, the former (see: https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/utilitarianism) 3. Still the lie #sorrynotsorry. Assuming this truth doesn't actually benefit anyone when made known, one death is one too many 4. N/A (but it probably would have because I pretend to be logical but I'm not really) 5. Well. It depends whether they actually do end up affecting reality, because I think that depends on the person and the hypothetical situation. Don't start a war 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 October 17, 2019 Share October 17, 2019 On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: That's fine since I don't like hats anyway The real question is whether it's minus two fezzes or minus two tophats On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: Why is it that humans acting logically inevitably leads us to our demise ;-; doesn't seem fair I propose that truth and goodness always coincide as per the Platonic ideal. Hence if the truth leads to our demise our demise must be a good thing Considering our general effect on our own society and the environment this may be more accurate than most people think. 90% of humanity's and the world's problems (especially economic ones probably) could be solved by having less humans amirite On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: Definitely that which is good. I'm also the person who chooses security over freedom in that debate Objection sir surely the most secure state for a human being to exist in is in a constantly monitored padded steel box with non-allergenic food mush poured into it at regular intervals [insert butterfly meme] Is this the American utopia On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: You can already guess; but, the former (see: https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/utilitarianism) Duality played Utility Monster! Is it super effective? On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: (but it probably would have because I pretend to be logical but I'm not really) (don't worry pure logic is kinda reductionistically inhuman anyway) On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 AM, Frostgage said: Well. It depends whether they actually do end up affecting reality, because I think that depends on the person and the hypothetical situation. Don't start a war Don't worry I won't start a war I'll just not tell anyone this life-changing revelation about the nature of reality that a physically manifested deity may or may not have just imparted to me How many secrets have you kept in your life? How many life-changing revelations have you had in your life? What is the highest goal of humanity in your reckoning? What attacks is the Frosty-type weak to? 1 [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 October 19, 2019 Author Share October 19, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Duality said: I propose that truth and goodness always coincide as per the Platonic ideal. Hence if the truth leads to our demise our demise must be a good thing Considering our general effect on our own society and the environment this may be more accurate than most people think. 90% of humanity's and the world's problems (especially economic ones probably) could be solved by having less humans amirite This is one of those situations where being logical makes you look like a madman calm down Thanos On 10/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Duality said: Objection sir surely the most secure state for a human being to exist in is in a constantly monitored padded steel box with non-allergenic food mush poured into it at regular intervals [insert butterfly meme] Is this the American utopia sounds amazing <3 On 10/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Duality said: Duality played Utility Monster! Is it super effective? Counter: there is zero chance this could ever exist in the real world and is thus irrelevant. I'm all about #practicality On 10/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Duality said: Don't worry I won't start a war I'll just not tell anyone this life-changing revelation about the nature of reality that a physically manifested deity may or may not have just imparted to me Excellent, then nothing can go wrong On 10/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Duality said: How many secrets have you kept in your life? How many life-changing revelations have you had in your life? What is the highest goal of humanity in your reckoning? What attacks is the Frosty-type weak to? 1. A lot I don't want people to know how strange I am 2. I couldn't even know for sure how would you define one? 3. Space travel because it's the hardest thing we've tried and it's just so frickin cool 4. Probably self-esteem attacks hehe Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Frostgage said: This is one of those situations where being logical makes you look like a madman calm down Thanos But no really overpopulation is almost solely responsible for industrialisation-caused climate change and widespread poverty and the rapid exhaustion of Earth's non-renewable resources and the housing crisis and most territory wars and all the conspiracy theory groups of the tiny minorities of crazy people made large by proportion Thanos wasn't wrong on the fundamental level he just needed a peaceful long-term plan like birth control measures - halving the population would only solve the problem for about 20 years before the population bounced back The only issue is that humans really don't like being told there are too many of them 13 hours ago, Frostgage said: Counter: there is zero chance this could ever exist in the real world and is thus irrelevant. I'm all about #practicality Objection sir I personally get a lot more innocent happiness from nice things than most people I know so I would be a bona fide utility monster if resources were distributed according to happiness-maximising utilitarianistic values 13 hours ago, Frostgage said: A lot I don't want people to know how strange I am You're good strange tho <3 13 hours ago, Frostgage said: I couldn't even know for sure how would you define one? Something that tangibly altered your worldview and how you live your life in a way that still affects you directly or indirectly even now. I can't give a personal example unfortunately though since my life-changing revelations tend to be progressive ones over time. 13 hours ago, Frostgage said: Space travel because it's the hardest thing we've tried and it's just so cool We've got more people in orbit than flying cars just saying How shiny is your bling? How shiny is your wallet? How shiny is your computer? Do you own any leather items? 1 [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 October 23, 2019 Author Share October 23, 2019 On 10/19/2019 at 2:18 PM, Duality said: Thanos wasn't wrong on the fundamental level he just needed a peaceful long-term plan like birth control measures - halving the population would only solve the problem for about 20 years before the population bounced back do I hear a fanfic? On 10/19/2019 at 2:18 PM, Duality said: Objection sir I personally get a lot more innocent happiness from nice things than most people I know so I would be a bona fide utility monster if resources were distributed according to happiness-maximising utilitarianistic values But what about diminishing returns tho (what a strange feeling when diminishing returns is actually helpful) On 10/19/2019 at 2:18 PM, Duality said: Something that tangibly altered your worldview and how you live your life in a way that still affects you directly or indirectly even now. I can't give a personal example unfortunately though since my life-changing revelations tend to be progressive ones over time. I can't remember any which probably means I don't have any. They're pretty hard to come by On 10/19/2019 at 2:18 PM, Duality said: How shiny is your bling? How shiny is your wallet? How shiny is your computer? Do you own any leather items? 1. Sounds a little too bougie 2. Not very. I hope I didn't get the wrong kind 3. Pretty shiny due to its color (silver) and relative newness 4. Not to my knowledge. But my knowledge is limited so 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 October 23, 2019 Share October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Frostgage said: do I hear a fanfic? It can't be a fanfic if it's a political campaign promise Fanfics are more likely to come true 14 minutes ago, Frostgage said: But what about diminishing returns tho (what a strange feeling when diminishing returns is actually helpful) They'll only diminish if the same sort of resources are given to me every time Clearly the solution is to use even more resources to employ a real-time think tank to ensure the greatest quantity of new and novel innocent pleasures for my unsuspecting self 16 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Sounds a little too bougie did somebody say b o o g i e 16 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Not very. I hope I didn't get the wrong kind Sorry sir only Faraday cage wallets are acceptable for use 17 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Pretty shiny due to its color (silver) and relative newness does it have glitter tho 17 minutes ago, Frostgage said: Not to my knowledge. But my knowledge is limited so Objection your flesh is coated in untanned leather PC or smartphone? Squishy or moist? Real or imaginary? Letters or lines? 1 [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 October 26, 2019 Author Share October 26, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 2:10 AM, Duality said: They'll only diminish if the same sort of resources are given to me every time Clearly the solution is to use even more resources to employ a real-time think tank to ensure the greatest quantity of new and novel innocent pleasures for my unsuspecting self Priorities on point On 10/23/2019 at 2:10 AM, Duality said: Sorry sir only Faraday cage wallets are acceptable for use I wish something was named after me :\ On 10/23/2019 at 2:10 AM, Duality said: Objection your flesh is coated in untanned leather Glad I prefaced my answer with not to my knowledge On 10/23/2019 at 2:10 AM, Duality said: PC or smartphone? Squishy or moist? Real or imaginary? Letters or lines? 1. Definitely PC 2. Probably moist 3. Probably real 4. Maybe lines 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality 10,740 December 9, 2019 Share December 9, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 4:49 PM, Frostgage said: I wish something was named after me :\ You're named after you There's nothing better for your name to honour <3 On 10/26/2019 at 4:49 PM, Frostgage said: Definitely PC What're your specs like Are we even nerd friends if we haven't compared CPUs On 10/26/2019 at 4:49 PM, Frostgage said: Probably moist ewwww moist Words or colours? Honey or chocolate? Surreal numbers or the Von Neumann universe? What's the most complex thing you've ever created? 1 [ O.C. ] ~ [ Ask Thread ] ~ [ Vocabillularary Website ] ~ [ DHMO Website (educate yourselves before it's too late!) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,976 December 14, 2019 Author Share December 14, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 2:02 AM, Duality said: You're named after you There's nothing better for your name to honour <3 that's true! I didn't think of that On 12/9/2019 at 2:02 AM, Duality said: What're your specs like Are we even nerd friends if we haven't compared CPUs I don't even have one xD I just prefer computers to smartphones but now I want to know what your spex? On 12/9/2019 at 2:02 AM, Duality said: Words or colours? Honey or chocolate? Surreal numbers or the Von Neumann universe? What's the most complex thing you've ever created? 1. Both are nice, but my answer is colors 2. Definitely chocolate <3 honey makes me a bit uncomfortable 3. I'm gonna need a little more information 4. I'm not real creative but I made this killer park on Rollercoaster Tycoon 2. Unfortunately it's probably been lost to history Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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