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And it's taking forever to complete. I'm hoping to finish it tonight and be able to move onto the next part of a project I'm working on involving military ponies. Feel free to leave some feedback

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It looks less like a painting and more like an un-rendered blender or maya model. This may be the look you are going for or it may not be. If it isn't then I would suggest not using texture overlays and using a hair brush to paint every single strand of hair. Instead I would suggest approaching the hair by blocking in the dark and light spots. Painting every strand of hair may sounds like it would make it more realistic, but in reality it just makes it look augmented or modeled.

Of course if you meant to make it look like a model then those points aren't very valid.

 

Aside from the style used in rendering, I would have to say that the hair seems too desaturated.

 

I hope this post made sense. If you want me to explain something further then quote me or P.M. me

Good luck with the rest of your military ponies.

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It looks less like a painting and more like an un-rendered blender or maya model. This may be the look you are going for or it may not be. If it isn't then I would suggest not using texture overlays and using a hair brush to paint every single strand of hair. Instead I would suggest approaching the hair by blocking in the dark and light spots. Painting every strand of hair may sounds like it would make it more realistic, but in reality it just makes it look augmented or modeled.

Of course if you meant to make it look like a model then those points aren't very valid.

 

Aside from the style used in rendering, I would have to say that the hair seems too desaturated.

 

I hope this post made sense. If you want me to explain something further then quote me or P.M. me

Good luck with the rest of your military ponies.

 

Makes sense to me, but most of the stuff I do is the pure intention; If I didn't intend to do things, I'd go back and correct it or start again.

 

I'm taking the desat mane into consideration, though, because it wasn't my intention to make it like that, heh(Thus, going back to change it). Especially the blue, because it blends a bit with her body. I'm not sure if I want to go with a matched saturation, or make it stand out more. As for painting with a stringy-style brush, I just like the style!

 

I would like a further explanation on the "blocking in the dark and light spots", though; I'm curious and might want to try that, anyway.

 

It looks pretty nice, can't wait to see the whole thing.

 

Thank you! Hopefully, it should be done tonight.

 

Nice! I like it. Make MOAR!

 

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Makes sense to me, but most of the stuff I do is the pure intention; If I didn't intend to do things, I'd go back and correct it or start again.

 

I'm taking the desat mane into consideration, though, because it wasn't my intention to make it like that, heh(Thus, going back to change it). Especially the blue, because it blends a bit with her body. I'm not sure if I want to go with a matched saturation, or make it stand out more. As for painting with a stringy-style brush, I just like the style!

 

I would like a further explanation on the "blocking in the dark and light spots", though; I'm curious and might want to try that, anyway.

 

 

Thank you! Hopefully, it should be done tonight.

 

 

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I would like a further explanation on the "blocking in the dark and light spots", though; I'm curious and might want to try that, anyway.

 

I have linked some images in order from most basic to most complex:

 

http://holivi.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d4zuii4

http://holivi.devian...i/32464900&qo=4

http://emworks.devia.../27754545&qo=20

http://emworks.devia.../27754545&qo=38

http://xiaman.devian...n/1021462&qo=15

http://xiaman.devian...an/1021462&qo=2

http://xiaman.devian...an/1021462&qo=3

http://xiaman.devian...n/1021462&qo=79

 

Basically it's the idea of rendering hair in clumps rather than strand by strand. This is done because hair is small and naturally forms "clumps". When you look at someone it is un-likely that you will notice their hair in a granular level, but rather by it's form and overall composition. This technique focuses on the form, flow and shape of the hair and can be done to any degree of detail as the examples show.

 

The examples are from 3 different artists the last of which runs a tutorial website called idrawgirls.com. If you want more examples let me know. xD

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Ah, I see you're still going for those soft rounds, nice. This definitely looks much better than before, especially with color.

 

I'm not gonna remark on areas that are obviously not finished since you JUST admitted it was a WIP, but I have to state the curvature underneath the eye makes it look a bit strange on Rainbow Dash. But, that's just my opinion here. Also, her eye color may need to be a bit darker from the bottom up to show off the coloring a bit more; it looks washed out from here.

 

A background that could resemble a rustic hangar or a smoke filtered sky would be interesting.

 

Aside from that, have you considered adding bangs that could poke out a little from the helmets front; just to give it a bit of color that makes Rainbow Dash the recognizable character she is. Not sure how it would really work, but it's just something to consider from my view.


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I have linked some images in order from most basic to most complex:

 

http://holivi.devian...set=48#/d4zuii4

http://holivi.devian...i/32464900&qo=4

http://emworks.devia.../27754545&qo=20

http://emworks.devia.../27754545&qo=38

http://xiaman.devian...n/1021462&qo=15

http://xiaman.devian...an/1021462&qo=2

http://xiaman.devian...an/1021462&qo=3

http://xiaman.devian...n/1021462&qo=79

 

Basically it's the idea of rendering hair in clumps rather than strand by strand. This is done because hair is small and naturally forms "clumps". When you look at someone it is un-likely that you will notice their hair in a granular level, but rather by it's form and overall composition. This technique focuses on the form, flow and shape of the hair and can be done to any degree of detail as the examples show.

 

The examples are from 3 different artists the last of which runs a tutorial website called idrawgirls.com. If you want more examples let me know. xD

 

Ah, i see what you mean, now! I didn't know that was the way to describe it. It certainly looks like something that could be more realistic, as well as simpler in a way...I dunno, I just really like doing the strandy style of mane/hair.

 

Ah, I see you're still going for those soft rounds, nice. This definitely looks much better than before, especially with color.

 

I'm not gonna remark on areas that are obviously not finished since you JUST admitted it was a WIP, but I have to state the curvature underneath the eye makes it look a bit strange on Rainbow Dash. But, that's just my opinion here. Also, her eye color may need to be a bit darker from the bottom up to show off the coloring a bit more; it looks washed out from here.

 

A background that could resemble a rustic hangar or a smoke filtered sky would be interesting.

 

Aside from that, have you considered adding bangs that could poke out a little from the helmets front; just to give it a bit of color that makes Rainbow Dash the recognizable character she is. Not sure how it would really work, but it's just something to consider from my view.

 

Hmm...I'm not sure, I kind of like how it turned out under her eye. As for the bangs out the front of the helmet, I'm not sure I'd want to do that, as it might take away from the rendering of the front part of her face and other parts. Also, I assume she'd prevent any strands from coming out the front, in case it causes any interference to her vision or something.

 

The darker portions of her pupils...I'll be getting to that soon. You're right when you say it looks "washed out" at the moment. I'm also wondering if I should detail the pupil, or keep it simplified.

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Wow, I love how it looks, really nice! :)

 

Love it :wub:

 

I love it! I await for the release of the finished painting ^^.

 

This is amazing! I love the art style!

 

Glad you guys like it so much! Motivates me to keep working and keep making moar.
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Glad you guys like it so much! Motivates me to keep working and keep making moar.

 

And as PegasisterTaco say, WE WANT MOAAR! :lol: Edited by OlugnaZitro

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Hmm...I'm not sure, I kind of like how it turned out under her eye. As for the bangs out the front of the helmet, I'm not sure I'd want to do that, as it might take away from the rendering of the front part of her face and other parts. Also, I assume she'd prevent any strands from coming out the front, in case it causes any interference to her vision or something.

 

The darker portions of her pupils...I'll be getting to that soon. You're right when you say it looks "washed out" at the moment. I'm also wondering if I should detail the pupil, or keep it simplified.

 

Well, by hair strands I meant like a few popping out that could show off a little more color, it'd look like it got loose from flight or something. But yeah, it may actually cover up her face so I'd see why you'd refrain from that.

 

I wouldn't touch the pupil, it would redirect a lot of attention to that spot on the eye, if only for the reason it'd look out of the ordinary from most other fan works. Plus it looks nice as it is being black, it makes her eyes look more intense once more colors put in and the highlights on the whites shine pop out more.

 

Also just noticing this, but the hair almost looks rasterized instead of painted. Not sure why really since I don't do paint but Vector work, but it looks strange.


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Well, by hair strands I meant like a few popping out that could show off a little more color, it'd look like it got loose from flight or something. But yeah, it may actually cover up her face so I'd see why you'd refrain from that.

 

I wouldn't touch the pupil, it would redirect a lot of attention to that spot on the eye, if only for the reason it'd look out of the ordinary from most other fan works. Plus it looks nice as it is being black, it makes her eyes look more intense once more colors put in and the highlights on the whites shine pop out more.

 

Also just noticing this, but the hair almost looks rasterized instead of painted. Not sure why really since I don't do paint but Vector work, but it looks strange.

 

Sorry, I meant the iris, not pupil...heh

 

Strange, huh?...That's not good. It does look a bit strange to me now that you point it out.

Ugh. Will have to redo it...

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Sorry, I meant the iris, not pupil...heh

 

Strange, huh?...That's not good. It does look a bit strange to me now that you point it out.

Ugh. Will have to redo it...

 

Well, if you do plan on redoing it I hope it does not cause you too much frustration.

 

On a side note, you should take your previous one on Fluttershy, crop out a portion of her head and make that your avatar on this site; it'd look pretty sick!


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Well, if you do plan on redoing it I hope it does not cause you too much frustration.

 

On a side note, you should take your previous one on Fluttershy, crop out a portion of her head and make that your avatar on this site; it'd look pretty sick!

 

I might take some advice from a very skilled artist friend of mine (You might know ECMajor?) and "let it go" and try something new on the next one. Saves me frustration and helps me learn on newer pieces.

 

And my Fluttershy one? That's a good idea. I'll do that now.

 

Great, awesome. I love it.

Can't wait to see the rest of it.

 

Thanks very much! Hope to finish soon
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I might take some advice from a very skilled artist friend of mine (You might know ECMajor?) and "let it go" and try something new on the next one. Saves me frustration and helps me learn on newer pieces.

 

And my Fluttershy one? That's a good idea. I'll do that now.

 

 

Thanks very much! Hope to finish soon

 

Uuuuh, yeah I, may know of that artist from the webs...his art is very, what you would say, risque towards his images. Don't get me wrong, it's VERY well drawn and I like the fella's illustrative style, but I can't believe I've seen anything outside a NSFW environment (which would be nice to view but I have my brothers little tykes running around this place often)

 

That avatar is stunning, didn't think the quality would retain from shrinking, but then I remembered that really only occurs on increasing size to that effect and immediately applied palm to forehead.


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Uuuuh, yeah I, may know of that artist from the webs...his art is very, what you would say, risque towards his images. Don't get me wrong, it's VERY well drawn and I like the fella's illustrative style, but I can't believe I've seen anything outside a NSFW environment (which would be nice to view but I have my brothers little tykes running around this place often)

 

That avatar is stunning, didn't think the quality would retain from shrinking, but then I remembered that really only occurs on increasing size to that effect and immediately applied palm to forehead.

 

Yeah, all of his stuff is very NSFW, but he does do SFW versions of his stuff as well...They just don't get around because everyone wants the NSFW stuff.

 

Heh, yeah...You know, I should start selling profile-style avatars of ponies for like, $10 each or something.

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Yeah, all of his stuff is very NSFW, but he does do SFW versions of his stuff as well...They just don't get around because everyone wants the NSFW stuff.

 

Heh, yeah...You know, I should start selling profile-style avatars of ponies for like, $10 each or something.

 

Huh, wasn't aware he did SFW anything.

 

And I think you're selling yourself a bit short, you should go for at least $20 for those images. They're definitely more high profile than a simple drawing most people do. Or set your rates depending on what they want, right?

 

$10 for simple black/white

$20 for color

$30 for full package with wallpaper size image and avatar together.

 

Just my opinion on that anyways. My art wouldn't be able to hit it like that since it's all vectors. I am trying to do animation soon though once I get a hang of Vector art, so that may go off somewhere hopefully.


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Huh, wasn't aware he did SFW anything.

 

And I think you're selling yourself a bit short, you should go for at least $20 for those images. They're definitely more high profile than a simple drawing most people do. Or set your rates depending on what they want, right?

 

$10 for simple black/white

$20 for color

$30 for full package with wallpaper size image and avatar together.

 

Just my opinion on that anyways. My art wouldn't be able to hit it like that since it's all vectors. I am trying to do animation soon though once I get a hang of Vector art, so that may go off somewhere hopefully.

 

Heh, maybe you're right, actually. A lot of work does go into these...Either way, it sounds like an enticing plan, but I'm unsure anyone would really be interested that much, nor would I know where to advertise it. What do you think?

 

How's your vector art coming along?

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