Sudo Krenton 243 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I use it sincerely. The same way Jesus taught to love and tolerate people that others said were wretched or wicked, Jesus showed them warmth and compassion. I don't doubt it, I'm just saying that some don't take it seriously, or pretend when it suits their needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I don't doubt it, I'm just saying that some don't take it seriously, or pretend when it suits their needs. They're the ones missing the point then, not that it doesn't exist. 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnshirepony 527 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 There's pretty much nothing in life I'm more passionate about than Christ. God really reached out and saved me from some difficult stuff, and I try every day to put Him at the center of my life. I'm so grateful that grace exists in the world. Relatedly, I'm working at a church for half of this summer. 1 DFTBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 There's pretty much nothing in life I'm more passionate about than Christ. God really reached out and saved me from some difficult stuff, and I try every day to put Him at the center of my life. I'm so grateful that grace exists in the world. Relatedly, I'm working at a church for half of this summer. Hey! Shire! Good to see you still kicking around these parts! On topic: I'm glad that you've found your calling in religion, perhaps you could share what lead to this? Not if you don't want to though, I can understand how personal these things are. 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnshirepony 527 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Hey! Shire! Good to see you still kicking around these parts! On topic: I'm glad that you've found your calling in religion, perhaps you could share what lead to this? Not if you don't want to though, I can understand how personal these things are. Hey! Nice to see you again! Now that school is (mostly) out of session, so I have more time for fun Internet things. Anywhoo, I'm happy to share that story, but it's quite long (at least, the thorough version of it is), and I've got to leave soon. Gotta help set up for Wednesday night dinner and small groups. I'll come back and post it later tonight/tomorrow though. 1 DFTBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Black Circle 1,586 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 You are a sheperd. If you look for sheep to sheperd, they'll scamper away and not want to be near you. Let them come to you. -Flinch 2015 3 Biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 (edited) Hey! Nice to see you again! Now that school is (mostly) out of session, so I have more time for fun Internet things. Anywhoo, I'm happy to share that story, but it's quite long (at least, the thorough version of it is), and I've got to leave soon. Gotta help set up for Wednesday night dinner and small groups. I'll come back and post it later tonight/tomorrow though. Oh sure, no rush, I gotta split to. Nice to see you as well my friend. God bless. You are a sheperd. If you look for sheep to sheperd, they'll scamper away and not want to be near you. Let them come to you. -Flinch 2015 You know, you may not have meant it, but that's exactly what I needed to hear right now. Thank you so much. Edited May 20, 2015 by Steel Accord 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Black Circle 1,586 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Oh sure, no rush, I gotta split to. Nice to see you as well my friend. God bless. You know, you may not have meant it, but that's exactly what I needed to hear right now. Thank you so much. God is SO meta. And there are people treating thousands of instances of this as "coincidences". Peh. 2 Biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnshirepony 527 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 You are a sheperd. If you look for sheep to sheperd, they'll scamper away and not want to be near you. Let them come to you. -Flinch 2015 I really needed to hear this as well. The Holy Spirit is quite incredible. 1 DFTBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 If you don't mind my asking, why? Weeeeeeeeeeell, I was only in the fifth grade at the time and I aid to myself, "Law of conservation of matter & god? That makes no since, and science can tell you what you want, faith can lie to you." Also, I don't like the old testament and if I am going to believe in something I am going to believe without falter. If you 100% obey the bible and believe it you are promoting the hate speech and killing of gays and women and other people just because a book not written by the person/spirit tells you to. I just don't want that in my life. Also, it says in Genesis 6:6 that the lord regretted making us. Why am I going to believe in something the regretted making us? That makes no sense what so ever. ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Black Circle 1,586 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 (edited) Okay, so I see some posts, and am inspired to say a few sentences, and now everyone is flooding me saying they needed to hear that for some reason. God, you are weird. And I love weird. *hugs God* Weeeeeeeeeeell, I was only in the fifth grade at the time and I aid to myself, "Law of conservation of matter & god? That makes no since, and science can tell you what you want, faith can lie to you." Also, I don't like the old testament and if I am going to believe in something I am going to believe without falter. If you 100% obey the bible and believe it you are promoting the hate speech and killing of gays and women and other people just because a book not written by the person/spirit tells you to. I just don't want that in my life. Also, it says in Genesis 6:6 that the lord regretted making us. Why am I going to believe in something the regretted making us? That makes no sense what so ever. What? Edited May 20, 2015 by FlinchCat 2 Biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Weeeeeeeeeeell, I was only in the fifth grade at the time and I aid to myself, "Law of conservation of matter & god? That makes no since, and science can tell you what you want, faith can lie to you." Also, I don't like the old testament and if I am going to believe in something I am going to believe without falter. If you 100% obey the bible and believe it you are promoting the hate speech and killing of gays and women and other people just because a book not written by the person/spirit tells you to. I just don't want that in my life. Also, it says in Genesis 6:6 that the lord regretted making us. Why am I going to believe in something the regretted making us? That makes no sense what so ever. Okay, so I see some posts, and am inspired to say a few sentences, and now everyone is flooding me saying they needed to hear that for some reason. God, you are weird. And I love weird. *hugs God* What? No, this is exactly what I did not want to happen! 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 No, this is exactly what I did not want to happen! I'm stupid and young...... I'll just go sit in the corner now..... ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I'm stupid and young...... I'll just go sit in the corner now..... No, please don't feel ashamed. If you don't want to believe in God, no one here will tell you you're wrong. 2 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,085 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I'm stupid and young...... I'll just go sit in the corner now..... So am I and most Christians my age XD Don't feel ashamed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 No, please don't feel ashamed. If you don't want to believe in God, no one here will tell you you're wrong. Well, you already told me I was wrong anyway by saying you wanted me to say something stupid. No need to make me feel better about myself now, you already ripped it to shreds. So am I and most Christians my age XD Don't feel ashamed Have to, it is the only way they will feel satisfaction. They already ripped my pride up into shreds so I think they got what they want. ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,085 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Have to, it is the only way they will feel satisfaction. They already ripped my pride up into shreds so I think they got what they want. I don't think that's what they're looking for. Christians are known for saying stuff they don't mean. And even if that was what they wanted, why would you give them the satisfaction? I've tried that before and it never works in anyone's favour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I don't think that's what they're looking for. Christians are known for saying stuff they don't mean. And even if that was what they wanted, why would you give them the satisfaction? I've tried that before and it never works in anyone's favour Where I come from people just fight to the point where one person just shuts up. Then the person who won gets all of the street cred. 1 ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,085 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Where I come from people just fight to the point where one person just shuts up. Then the person who won gets all of the street cred. Same here. I don't get involved, but it is definitely a big issue at my school. It gets physical, emotional, psychological... not a great place to live 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Well, you already told me I was wrong anyway by saying you wanted me to say something stupid. No need to make me feel better about myself now, you already ripped it to shreds. I never said I wanted you to "say something stupid!" Please forgive me! I didn't mean to offend you or your sensibilities. I only said "I was afraid of this" because I didn't want this to become another thread where people fight. I don't think that's what they're looking for. Christians are known for saying stuff they don't mean. And even if that was what they wanted, why would you give them the satisfaction? I've tried that before and it never works in anyone's favour What he said. Mac here is very much a Christian, it's on his cutie mark there! I didn't mean to say anything un-toward to you or atheists in general. I swear. 2 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I never said I wanted you to "say something stupid!" Please forgive me! I didn't mean to offend you or your sensibilities. I only said "I was afraid of this" because I didn't want this to become another thread where people fight. What he said. Mac here is very much a Christian, it's on his cutie mark there! I didn't mean to say anything un-toward to you or atheists in general. I swear. If you weren't like me I would be angry but right now I am calm, I have no idea why, but I am sorry too. I have overreacted again. 3 ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 (edited) If you weren't like me I would be angry but right now I am calm, I have no idea why, but I am sorry too. I have overreacted again. No worries, apology accepted and I apologize again in turn. I do not have a problem with atheism or atheists. I want us all to coexist. Edited May 20, 2015 by Steel Accord 2 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 No worries, apology accepted and I apologize again in turn. I do not have a problem with atheism or atheists. I want us all to coexist. And I don't have a problem with most Christians. (There are a few I cannot live with....) 1 ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,994 May 21, 2015 Share May 21, 2015 (edited) This post has been redacted by the author. Edited May 6, 2021 by Blue 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 May 21, 2015 Share May 21, 2015 (edited) To be honest, no one lives their lives completely removed from doubts unless they're deluded or closed to the possibility of changing their minds. Everyone has doubts. They come and go as circumstances change in your life. But wanting to have beliefs which conform and affirm the reality around us is a commendable ideal. Just as long as those beliefs are subject to reality, and not subject to personal preference. The world is round regardless of how I feel about it. That means it's important to learn, experience, research, reason and deduce what you can about the nature of Reality and God; their [in]existence and so on. @@Kivil, The astronaut speaks the truth. For all my faith, it was greatly tested a couple months ago. Strong feelings of doubt entered my heart and caused me to question my belief in the Divine. Of course, what made this easier though was the environment I grew up in. "Doubt is good." My parents and priests would tell me. "How can you truly claim to have faith in something if it's never been tested?" My Catholic upbringing was one of nurturing warmth and understanding. So when I grew up and grew distant from my roots, I still felt a connection to the Divine. True I was exposed to atheism and different religious schools of thought, but this just lead me to believe that the Divine speaks to different people in different ways. So when my faith was finally tested, it was dark, and it was unpleasant, but it didn't destroy me. I came out with a greater appreciation for Jesus and the greater mysteries of the Divine. And I don't have a problem with most Christians. (There are a few I cannot live with....) Hell there are plenty of Christians I can't stand. Just because we share faith doesn't mean they can't be jerks. Edited May 21, 2015 by Steel Accord 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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