Inquiry About the World of MLP (concerning the Royal Sisters)

[ShadOBabe 19,014]

Warning: Rambling and detailed world-building ahead...

 

So due to some conversations I've been having in other threads, I was wondering...

 

What do you think it's like for individuals and species that live outside of Equestria?

Like say on the other side of the planet? What are their mindsets?

 

Let me elaborate.

With what I've seen in the show (and a little bit in the comics), I think the world of MLP...

- is an isolated planet

- the "sun" and "moon" are similarly sized orbs glowing at different intensities

- these orbs orbit the planet

- the Sisters can control these celestial orbs at will (with this evidence)

1) these orbs freeze in the sky when the Sisters are incapacitated

2) that we the sun eclipsed just when Luna decided to overthrown Celestia

3) that we see them rise and set on the SAME horizon during the Summer Sun Celebration, despite being shown to have normal orbits before hand

4) in the comics Celestia and Luna pull the moon out of the sky (albeit with some effort)

 

Stay with me!!

So we have a round planet with two glowing orbs circling it, and these orbs are controlled by two free-thinking individuals.

 

So here's my point.

I trust the Royal Sisters and so do the citizens of Equestria.

They've dutifully kept the sun and moon moving for thousands of years. I think they've earned a little credit.

 

But Equestria is only one country on one side of the planet.

What is is like for civilizations on the other side?

Do they trust the sisters? Or are they afraid because two foreign rulers on the other side of the planet control forces of nature that they need to survive?

I suppose they realize that if the sisters used the sun and the moon against them, they'd also be hurting the balance in Equestria. But think about how they must have felt in the Season 4 premiere. While the sun and moon hung motionless over Equestria, on the other side of the world it was pitch dark!! And they don't have phones in the world. It would take a while to get a message to foreign leaders saying, "Our Princesses have gone missing. That's why the sun and moon are gone. Please remain calm."

 

And what about the Changelings? Are they nuts?

I would figure they need the sun and moon to keep working just like everyone else, yet they attack the Castle of the two ponies controlling them? Where they going to keep them alive and brainwash them to continue the cycle.

 

TL;DR: How do you think societies outside of Equestria view the Royal Sisters? Trusted foreign allies that keep the world in balance? A potential threat? What's it like living somewhere where the natural process of day and night is controlled by two royals you've possibly never seen living in a country you've never been to?

Edited December 9, 2013 by ShadOBabe

[Fhaolan 4,484]

I think we got a glimpse of that with the Daring Don't episode. Spoilered just in case people haven't seen the episode.

 

 

Ahuizotl was trying to assemble an artifact capable of causing his valley to heat up for 800 years. The camera kept panning to the sun every time that was mentioned.

 

In my opinion, we're dealing with one of three things:

 

1) This artifact was actually going to change the atmosphere is some way, like putting big magnifying glass between the sun and the valley.

2) This artifact was an attempt to wrest control of the sun from Celestia.

3) The sun outside of Equestria is a completely different body than the one seen from within Equestria. Like the borders of Equestria are actually some kind of dimensional gap where Equestria exists on one side with it's own sun, moon, etc. and on the other side is the 'rest of the world'.

 

I like 2) best from a story point of view, but that's just me.

 

[ShadOBabe 19,014]

I think we got a glimpse of that with the Daring Don't episode.

 

I thought of #2 as well. That would sure be interesting.

I think Celestia would

want to have a few words with Ahuizotl about messing with her sun.

 

 

But #1 is possible too!! Like the

ritual creates a hole in the ozone layer or something to that effect.

 

Edited December 9, 2013 by ShadOBabe

[Frith is Magick 1,471]

I think other nations would be uneasy about Luna and Celestia having this control, but they have one safety: MAD. If Celestia deprives another nation of light, then she will scorch Equestria, and if she tries to scorch another nation, Equestria will freeze. The sisters have to maintain the cycle in order to preserve Equestria, which means it would be detrimental for them to use the sun and moon as weapons.

[Fhaolan 4,484]

I thought of #2 as well. That would sure be interesting.

I think Celestia would

want to have a few words with Ahuizotl about messing with her sun.

 

If she knew what was happening, of course. One of the oddities of this entire series is that ponies have a tendency to not tell anyone what's going on. Who knows how long it would take Celestia to track down who was responsible, and what effect that loss would actually have on her? She's not exactly had a lot of luck with the direct confrontation model with prior villains.

 

But #1 is possible too!! Like the

ritual creates a hole in the ozone layer or something to that effect.

 

Yeah, something along those lines.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Fhaolan

[ShadOBabe 19,014]

If she knew what was happening, of course. One of the oddities of this entire series is that ponies have a tendency to not tell anyone what's going on.

 

I was just about to say that Twilight surely would have told her. But...

it just made me realize that the girls just HAPPENED to go look for Daring right before Ahuizotl was planning on doing the ritual. It was luck.

It is possible that Daring would have beaten Ahuizotl, but it's also possible that she could have failed. And yeah, no one would know why the sun was stuck.

 

 

 

I assume Celestia would search the area where the sun was stuck. And she'd be able to bring her guard and her sister with her.

Edited December 9, 2013 by ShadOBabe

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think the societies outside of Equestria view the Royal Sisters as two sisters who have control of the two orbs that could cause their destruction from no heat, tides, and the planet freezing to death. They're probably very uneasy if they are unaware that two powerful sisters control the only two things that they depend on for the day and night.

[ShadOBabe 19,014]

I think the societies outside of Equestria view the Royal Sisters as two sisters who have control of the two orbs that could cause their destruction from no heat, tides, and the planet freezing to death. They're probably very uneasy if they are unaware that two powerful sisters control the only two things that they depend on for the day and night.

 

Like me and Frith pointed out though, in order to scorch or freeze one part of the globe, the other would have to suffer too.

If you kept the sun on the other side, Equestria would freeze. If you kept the moon over there, Equestria would burn.

Edited December 10, 2013 by ShadOBabe

[Scootalove 10,689]

Like me and Frith pointed out though, in order to scorch or freeze one part of the globe, the other would have to suffer too.

If you kept the sun on the other side, Equestria would freeze. If you kept the moon over there, Equestria would burn.

Ah, I get it. I would be uneasy too if I was unaware that two sisters control the moon and sun, without both of them being active I'd panic.

[Nature's Spell 526]

One huge issue is exactly where these other groups live in relation to Equestria. The writers are so vague that it's hard to know, but that's a common refrain with the series. If we assume that Equestria is roughy based upon North America and Western Europe than Africa, Asia and South America would belong to other groups: zebra, dragons, etc. I would say these other groups must be very uneasy about the ponies domination of the whole planet. If you really think about it, which the lack of consistent world building forces you to do, the way their world seems to work must be very unnerving for none ponies and is almost Master Race like.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Nature's Spell

[ALIS 38]

And what about the Changelings? Are they nuts?

I would figure they need the sun and moon to keep working just like everyone else, yet they attack the Castle of the two ponies controlling them? Where they going to keep them alive and brainwash them to continue the cycle.

I would guess that they as magic weilders would take over control of the sun like the Unicorn Princess Platnum had before Celestia.

 

I would guess Chrysalis herself would be powerful enough to handle it fine once Celestia and Luna's control was severed.

 

----

 

Just a random fan theory I had thought up.

 

Luna and Celestia don't control the sun and the moon. Instead the Unicorns of old created shrouds that reflect towards or away the light of the sun over the land to threaten the Earth Ponies for food like the Pegasus do with the weather.

 

Celestia and Luna took control of that to legitimize their rule.

 

I thought of that just after the Hearthwarming episode came out.

Edited December 10, 2013 by ALIS

[Declen 118]

 

 

What do you think it's like for individuals and species that live outside of Equestria? Like say on the other side of the planet? What are their mindsets?

In case you haven't read it already, here you might find some possible answers.

As for "Daring Don't", my explanation was that ritual should make a magnifying glass to overhit the aria. I don't believe that some ritual could overtake control of the sun and Her Highness wouldn't even know about it. She is in charge of the sun, after all.