Super Saiyans From DBZ VS Alicorns

[KRAKELINGCATcarnage 57]

If you would compare all the ponies in equistria againts bills well you know who would already.... xD

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Shenron00,

The demon realm isn't like Hell, Hell and Otherworld is ruled by Emna Daio. The Demon Realm is just another place, it's not Hell.

 

And Babidi is not that great magic wise, Kaioshin was confident in beating his ass and he's a little bitch as well. The alicorns are powerful mages as well.

 

Here's the thing with magic, it's very odd powerwise

 

Kaioshin's Magic>SSJ2 Adult Gohan>Base Gohan>Kaioshin

 

Kaioshin's magic allowed him to hold someone AT LEAST 100x more powerful than him in place

[Dattebayo 2,850]

@@Dattebayo,

Why? I didn't start this one if you were wondering

 

I know xP

 

Because no one understands the art of the match-up and the elements needed to make a good, fun one.

People just say "derp y nawt Kuriboh vs Shao Kahn" and don't know any of the rules.

[Shenron00 366]

@,

God like beings who are regularly made fools out of by mages like Babidi, Janemba, Kaioshin, and Dabra?

@@GXPBlast,

You have no clue how to do this, do you? If you really want all the Saiyans, why not go

"Fight 1: Broly vs Alicorns, Fight 2: Bardock vs Alicorns, etc."

 

You have to specify, which Saiyan it is and their mindset is very important in this fight

@@Zhortac,

God like is Chakravartin, Asura, Galactus, Hulk, TOAA, The Ancients, Anti-Spiral, Team Dai Gurren, Arceus, and a few others. DBZ doesn't even get near their level of power

While they're not Godlike, neither is Celestia or the others. The Alicorns are hurt by normal things that would tickle a currently living Saiyan. The Saiyans beat the Alicorns in almost every aspect of battle.

 

Strength: A Saiyan could destroy an entire planet.

Proof: Frieza has destroyed multiple planets in one blast such as Planet Vegeta or Namek. The only reason it took "5 minutes" for Namek to explode was because he missed the core. The Saiyans are WAY more powerful than that pussy now, so naturally they should be able to destroy a planet too. If you don't believe in power-scaling, let's look at the Cell Ark. When Vegeta was about to use Final Flash, Trunks was piss-scared that Vegeta was going to destroy the Earth, but Vegeta narrowed the beam width to not destroy it. Another example would be when Goku used Instant-Transmission Kamehameha, everyone was scared, but then Goku teleported behind Cell and fired it into the sky. And the Saiyans have only improved since then.

 

Endurability: This is where I visit the original Dragonball, when Goku was just a kid. Goku took multiple gun shots and screamed in pain. That's pretty impressive for a 11 year old! About a year later or so, he took a bullet to the back of the head from a Hyper-Gun without guarding, and got knocked the fuck out. As far as I know, the Alicorns have only a little more endurance than the average pony, so if you shoot an Alicorn if it's not using a shield spell or anything like that, it'll get it's brains blown out.

 

Speed: The fastest pony we've seen so far (Rainbow Dash) can only break the sound barrier at top speed. Here's where I would normally go back to the original Dragonball during Goku's 2nd tournament, when he swam halfway across the world in about 2 hours to get there in time, but that just means he's a good swimmer. Besides, we all know that the Z-Fighters can travel faster than the speed of sound.

 

Smarts: Here's where at least Goku gets beat. While Goku may be a genius when it comes to fighting, Twilight's a genius in general, and will possibly find a way to outsmart Goku. She could get Vegeta into a blinding rage. Goten and Trunks are kids, so you know it'll be easy to get to them. I'm not sure about Gohan though. He's pretty booksmart himself, but I doubt it's as much as TS. They'd probably get into a nerd fight while the Alicorns and Saiyans just watch in amazement. I can't say much for Tarble (who is canon by the way) since we only see him in the one special, and hear of him in Battle of Gods. Bardock seems about average. Broly will just try to blow up the planet, the Saiyans and Alicorns work together to beat him, Broly dies (again!), and they all become friends.

 

Btw, Hulk? Seriously?

@@Shenron00,

The demon realm isn't like Hell, Hell and Otherworld is ruled by Emna Daio. The Demon Realm is just another place, it's not Hell.

 

And Babidi is not that great magic wise, Kaioshin was confident in beating his ass and he's a little bitch as well. The alicorns are powerful mages as well.

 

Here's the thing with magic, it's very odd powerwise

 

Kaioshin's Magic>SSJ2 Adult Gohan>Base Gohan>Kaioshin

 

Kaioshin's magic allowed him to hold someone AT LEAST 100x more powerful than him in place

That last statement kind of proved my point. Just because you suck at fighting doesn't mean you have to suck at magic. I never said the DR was Hell, I was just comparing it to Hell. My bad.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Hulk

He tanked Galactus's galaxy level blast

 

I don't really see the point of your post. No one is arguing against the Saiyans being superior in all those areas, what we're arguing is that they can't handle magic. It'd kind of like Superman against magicians

 

 

That last statement kind of proved my point. Just because you suck at fighting doesn't mean you have to suck at magic

You could apply this same thing to the alicorns though 

[Shenron00 366]

@Evil Dragon Master

Can you please use the English versions of these names? It's getting hard to tell who you're talking about since I didn't read the whole Buu Ark in the manga.

He tanked Galactus's galaxy level blast

 

I don't really see the point of your post. No one is arguing against the Saiyans being superior in all those areas, what we're arguing is that they can't handle magic. It'd kind of like Superman against magicians

 

You could apply this same thing to the alicorns though

Touché. But we have seen what they can do so far, and it doesn't seem like much compared to what the Z-Fighters can do. The Saiyans aren't as endurable to magic as they are physical attacks, but that doesn't mean they're weak to it like Supes if that's what you mean. I only posted that whole "Aspects of Fighting" post just in case.

[Zhortac 1,475]

I'd like to point out, that I pointed out where Luna was shown going from the moon to Canterlot in a couple seconds, which would mean she can move nearly FTL. Can't say the same for Celestia, Twilight, and Cadance.

 

Sailor Galaxia soloes them all 

 

No one in this battle could touch her, let alone take her.

[Shenron00 366]

I know xP

 

Because no one understands the art of the match-up and the elements needed to make a good, fun one.

People just say "derp y nawt Kuriboh vs Shao Kahn" and don't know any of the rules.

You make a very good point. Matching DBZ with MLP is not a very good matchup. They have almost nothing on common story-wise.

I'd like to point out, that I pointed out where Luna was shown going from the moon to Canterlot in a couple seconds, which would mean she can move nearly FTL. Can't say the same for Celestia, Twilight, and Cadance.

 

 

No one in this battle could touch her, let alone take her.

How do we know she flew? She could've teleported.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Can you please use the English versions of these names? It's getting hard to tell who you're talking about since I didn't read the whole Buu Ark in the manga.

Sorry, force of habit. Okay, I'll switch

 

 

The Saiyans aren't as endurable to magic as they are physical attacks, but that doesn't mean they're weak to it like Supes if that's what you mean

I don't believe Superman is weak to it either, but like the Saiyans, they have no special resistance to it. The Saiyans are actually not that resistant to a lot of things, heat for example. They take heat as well as a human can, meaning a fire spell(if there is one) would work very well. However, the main weapons of the alicorns are their concussive bolts and those will affect the Saiyans because ki does not protect you from magic. If it could, Supreme Kai wouldn't be so worried about Babidi

 

I'd like to point out, that I pointed out where Luna was shown going from the moon to Canterlot in a couple seconds, which would mean she can move nearly FTL. Can't say the same for Celestia, Twilight, and Cadance.

 

 

No one in this battle could touch her, let alone take her.

Sailor Galaxia is Sky Father level, right? That puts her in the same tier as Alduin and Odin

[Jorguil 54]

@Zhortac  Where is this silly accusation that Sailor moon is galaxy busting I was a fan once but I got tired of seeing her losing and getting rescued I hardly believe this statement made in the forums.

[Zhortac 1,475]

You make a very good point. Matching DBZ with MLP is not a very good matchup. They have almost nothing on common story-wise.

How do we know she flew? She could've teleported.

 

She flew into Canterlot, it was during the Wedding episode, since Shining Armor had his barrier up.

 

Sorry, force of habit. Okay, I'll switch

 

 

I don't believe Superman is weak to it either, but like the Saiyans, they have no special resistance to it. The Saiyans are actually not that resistant to a lot of things, heat for example. They take heat as well as a human can, meaning a fire spell(if there is one) would work very well. However, the main weapons of the alicorns are their concussive bolts and those will affect the Saiyans because ki does not protect you from magic. If it could, Supreme Kai wouldn't be so worried about Babidi

 

Sailor Galaxia is Sky Father level, right? That puts her in the same tier as Alduin and Odin

 

Manga wise, Sailor Galaxia was empowered by Chaos, and could easily level a galaxy, and had the lives of pretty much 95% of their galaxy above her head. Eternal Sailor Moon had to draw power from the Galaxy Cauldron (the source of life in their universe) to kick her ass. Not to mention, Galaxia tanked every attack they threw at her for the majority of the battle, and smacked ESM around like a two dollar hooker.

@Zhortac  Where is this silly accusation that Sailor moon is galaxy busting I was a fan once but I got tired of seeing her losing and getting rescued I hardly believe this statement made in the forums.

 

It's not silly, it's in the manga. She reached that level, just to take down Galaxia, who is galaxy buster+

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Manga wise, Sailor Galaxia was empowered by Chaos, and could easily level a galaxy, and had the lives of pretty much 95% of their galaxy above her head. Eternal Sailor Moon had to draw power from the Galaxy Cauldron (the source of life in their universe) to kick her ass. Not to mention, Galaxia tanked every attack they threw at her for the majority of the battle, and smacked ESM around like a two dollar hooker.

Yeah, that's Skyfather level. She is above Lore Alduin but below Odin. Congratulations, they are officially high tier 

[Shenron00 366]

She flew into Canterlot, it was during the Wedding episode, since Shining Armor had his barrier up.

 

 

Manga wise, Sailor Galaxia was empowered by Chaos, and could easily level a galaxy, and had the lives of pretty much 95% of their galaxy above her head. Eternal Sailor Moon had to draw power from the Galaxy Cauldron (the source of life in their universe) to kick her ass. Not to mention, Galaxia tanked every attack they threw at her for the majority of the battle, and smacked ESM around like a two dollar hooker.

 

 

It's not silly, it's in the manga. She reached that level, just to take down Galaxia, who is galaxy buster+

Maybe she teleported to the outside the barrier and then flew inside. I doubt Luna's that fast.

[Zhortac 1,475]

Maybe she teleported to the outside the barrier and then flew inside. I doubt Luna's that fast.

 

Even if it was teleportation, then there's a very high chance, none of the alicorns would get hit by shit. Twilight was able to do quite a few teleportations pre-alicorn, before she was worn out, and Celestia and Luna have over 1000 years to practice, so there's a good chance they can teleport all day and night. Goku would be the only person who could counter that.

 

I'd also like to point out, since bloodlust was NEVER stated, and you DBZ fanboys are going nuts on how Goku will slaughter the alicorns...remember, canon lore wise, Goku hasn't killed a single person, or thing ever.

Edited April 14, 2014 by Zhortac

[Moss 95]

I'd like to point out, that I pointed out where Luna was shown going from the moon to Canterlot in a couple seconds, which would mean she can move nearly FTL. Can't say the same for Celestia, Twilight, and Cadance.

 

Saiyans can fly pretty fast and have better endurace,luna needs a break after only 14 seconds of fast flying,saiyans have spent entire consecutive episodes flying,while constantly going faster after saying something to themselves and not losing any energy for teh fight.

 

They can't hurt,because i remember some guy saying that sometimes saiyans fight so fast that the outline of the otehr guys fist appears on the back of the first guys shirt many time over the course of the fight.

 

They can throw a punch or mass energy blasts 100000000 times and not lose any energy,again luna gets tired after a few seconds of flying top speed.They can also effortlesly deflect 100000000 energy blats.The ponies would tire after getting so much energy deflected.I'd like to see one of their shilds withstand 100000000 energy blasts.Heck,sometimes in the series saiyans can take 100000000 mass energy blasts and still be smiling completely unharmed at the not-tired at-all other saiyan.

 

Any objects taht the poines throw wont hurt,Vegeta would personally pick up a rock and crush it into dust if it gets thrown at him.

 

Elements o f Harmony wont work since saiyans can just yell (power up) t o break its hold.

 

Oh,and they can punch 100000000 in 20 seconds since they move so fast that they become black lines for a second,and unless they have four eyes they can't see the saiyans since they are so fast.They are so fast that for anybody who can see them,they will see the outline of the otehr guys fist in the bakc of the first guys shirt every quarter second and nothing happening from it.

 

They can blow up the moon with kamehameha thingy,and can use solar flare to blind people.

 

They are too fast for lazers and take so long to teleport that they can yell to get out of it.

 

They have big muscles and get very vainy.Muscley guys always win fights.

 

Saiyans can yell so bad that they break the time contium thingy to break out of the hyperbolic time chamber,and they can reverse the effects of it so if they trap the ponies the ponies die of old age.

 

They have Videl as meatshield,yamcha too.

 

Herecules could snap a pony's neck like a stick!

 

Saiyans have sensu beans and can use the dragon balls to go faster.They have cars and spaceships and they could use that green alien guy guy to freeze time.

 

But saiyans won't matter,everybody knows Krillin could beat the entire MLP universe in less than a week.He make thoses energy disks right (sorry havent watched in years)?That disck could break through the combined shields of every pony,and plus i didnt know how to deflect it in dragonball z kudakai 3 or whatever since i always got hurt by it.

 

Oh and these posts are me bing stupid tyring to get a laugh out of you guys

Edited April 15, 2014 by MOSFETv2

[Zhortac 1,475]

@,

Dear lord...could you fanboy any harder? Let's break down everything wrong with what you just said.

 

Saiyans can fly pretty fast and have better endurace,luna needs a break after only 14 seconds of fast flying,saiyans have spent entire consecutive episodes flying,while constantly going faster after saying something to themselves and not losing any energy for teh fight.

Fast, sure, but they don't come anywhere close to anything beyond the speed of sound. The only thing that exceeds FTL is Instant Transmission. And there is no evidence of how long Luna, or any of the other three alicorns can maintain flight speed for. They can teleport, and all teleportation is FTL, and no one in DBZ can track magic.

 

They can't hurt,because i remember some guy saying that sometimes saiyans fight so fast that the outline of the otehr guys fist appears on the back of the first guys shirt many time over the course of the fight.

That's only shown for speed emphasis, and doesn't mean they're not trackable. Yes, the alicorns probably won't see those movements, but it doesn't mean they're going to flat out lose.

 

They can throw a punch or mass energy blasts 100000000 times and not lose any energy,again luna gets tired after a few seconds of flying top speed.They can also effortlesly deflect 100000000 energy blats.The ponies would tire after getting so much energy deflected.I'd like to see one of their shilds withstand 100000000 energy blasts.Heck,sometimes in the series saiyans can take 100000000 mass energy blasts and still be smiling completely unharmed at the not-tired at-all other saiyan.

Again, no proof...and no that's wrong. There's literally LOTS of moments where Vegeta attacked countless times or fired countless energy blasts, and was tired out after. #17 and #18 are the only two characters who have shown the ability to do that, and not be worn out.

 

Any objects taht the poines throw wont hurt,Vegeta would personally pick up a rock and crush it into dust if it gets thrown at him.

Who said they'd throw stuff at them? They'd be blasting magic, or turning them into random shit. No one, except Piccolo, can stop magic projectiles.

 

Elements o f Harmony wont work since saiyans can just yell (power up) t o break its hold.

No, no, and no again. The elements of harmony would wreck their shit hard, and they couldn't stop it. Piccolo being the only character (save for Babadi and Buu), that would tank the elements, and brush it off.

 

Oh,and they can punch 100000000 in 20 seconds since they move so fast that they become black lines for a second,and unless they have four eyes they can't see the saiyans since they are so fast.They are so fast that for anybody who can see them,they will see the outline of the otehr guys fist in the bakc of the first guys shirt every quarter second and nothing happening from it.

This is fanboyism to the extreme. And pointed out earlier.

 

They can blow up the moon with kamehameha thingy,and can use solar flare to blind people.

So? Blowing up a moon is easy, shit, Roshi blew it up in DB. Pretty sure Celestia and Luna could do it. Not like its a huge feat to.

 

Saiyans can yell so bad that they break the time contium thingy to break out of the hyperbolic time chamber,and they can reverse the effects of it so if they trap the ponies the ponies die of old age.

That was a total load of bullshit, and Akira himself said it was stupid. The only logical pass was Buu, since he's a magical being. Gotenks doing it was just deus ex machina bullshit. And that really doesn't work as an offense.

 

They have Videl as meatshield too.

That's low dude. Videl is cool...the correct answer is Yamcha.

 

Saiyans have sensu beans and can use the dragon balls to go faster.They have cars and spaceships and they could use that green alien guy guy to freeze time.

They only have beans if Korin grows them. They just don't pull them out of their ass.

 

But saiyans won't matter,everybody knows Krillin could beat the entire MLP universe in less than a week.He make thoses energy disks right (sorry havent watched in years)?That disck could break through the combined shields of every pony,and plus i didnt know how to deflect it in dragonball z kudakai 3 or whatever since i always got hurt by it.

Phfft...the CMC could kick Krillain's ass. Krillain because crap after Freiza, and his keinzan throw is horrible. And no, his keinzan wouldn't break through a magic barrier...the alicorns and even Shining Armor are better magic users then Babadi, and his barrier took Vegeta's suicide explosion without a scratch.

 

You also have to factor in their personalities. Goku hasn't killed anyone, and wouldn't start now. Besides not using his full power, if he managed to win, at most he'd beat them to surrender. Vegeta would piss off too much, and end up being turned into a carrot. Kid Trunks is about as brainless as Vegeta, and would screw himself over. Goten would either not want to fight, or be too stupid to win if he had coaching. Gohan could win, but he'd probably not even want to fight, since he doesn't like too. Mirai Trunks would end this fight before they could do squat, because he knows not to screw around. Broly might as well bend over, because he'll screw it off way too much.

[Moss 95]

@@Zhortac,hehe man my post was just basically me being stupid,stuff not meant to be taken seriously,forgot to mention that at the end ,and yeah yamcha is pretty bad too,every human character except Krillin and Maybe Roshi would be wrecked. (stupid post too,these are meant to make people laugh )

 

You also forgot to mention the dragon balls,if ponies can use elements then saiyans can use dragon balls,but they cant kill,only detriment.I say that they would wish for the ponies to be too muscly.They would be too thisck to fly,and would have a hard time seeing since their eyes and neck would be too muscly to move.Saiyans could just move to the side and the poines would be blind.

 

Blowing up the moon is hard,only muslcly guys can do it,but since the poines are now muscly i guess they can destroy it,if they can move their bodies to make the horn point at the mooooon...

 

They can stop the projectiles,since i count everythign as physical attacks or jsut 'energy blasts,etc'.remember the countless times when a saiyan would throw 100000000 energy blasts and they would ptu a crater in the ground and then the other saiyan would just stand in teh crater with his arms crossed,a smile on his face and his leg hairs singed?The saiyan who throw the 100000000 energy blasts would be breathing for a few seconds,but then they fight like nothing happened.

 

Elements of Harmony also won't work since the ponies would be to muscly to pick them up,let alone see them!

 

Ponies again couldnt even see the saiyans cos they can turn into black lines that dissapear,then reappear to represent them hitting the enemy.Its only used as a visual help for the viewer,who obviously cant see how fast they are moving.Even when standing still in speed mode they are too fast for the ponies to see.

 

Their yells would deafen the ponies and make their oversensitive,muscly ears explode.

 

Saiyans,or more accurately,Krillin by himself and in less than a week will ALWAYS beat ponies.they are too muslcy and fast for them.

 

I think I just won this thread.

Edited April 15, 2014 by MOSFETv2

[Zhortac 1,475]

@,

 

Well, considering how many people in here have been fanboying and/or ignoring canon, it was hard to tell if you're being serious. And alot of what you said, sounded alot like most of the stupid arguments on why Goku can beat manga ESM...which of course is a laugh.

[Shenron00 366]

Even if it was teleportation, then there's a very high chance, none of the alicorns would get hit by shit. Twilight was able to do quite a few teleportations pre-alicorn, before she was worn out, and Celestia and Luna have over 1000 years to practice, so there's a good chance they can teleport all day and night. Goku would be the only person who could counter that.

 

I'd also like to point out, since bloodlust was NEVER stated, and you DBZ fanboys are going nuts on how Goku will slaughter the alicorns...remember, canon lore wise, Goku hasn't killed a single person, or thing ever.

Woah woah woah! Let's get something straight. I am not a fanboy, fanboys think that their show is ultimate, nothing can come close to the characters power, and the creator of the show is God. I am not like that. There are plenty of characters that would obliterate the Saiyans. I'm just saying that the Alicorns ate not among them. Also, Goku has killed before. Not counting movies, he hasn't killed a lot, but he's done it. Kid Buu (even if he did reincarnate), King Piccolo, Commander Black, General Tao, Tambourine, and I didn't get any further than that in Dragonball, but I'll look it up later. If we do count movies, then there's Dr. Wheelo, Turles, Slug, Cooler (with help from Vegeta), Broly (with help from his sons), Android 13, Hirudegarn, Janemba (as Gogeta), etc. The Saiyans would most likely destroy the Alicorns before they have time to teleport. Celestia doesn't seem to need to teleport that often, and neither does Luna, but I believe they could do it as if they did practice. Btw, what do you mean "bloodlust"? I know what the word means, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't think the EoH would work, because they seem to only work on evil (at least that's my logic).

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Shenron00,

Blood lust means the fight is going in for the kill. Goku only cannonically killed when he had no other choice or before Kami's training 

[Shenron00 366]

@Evil Dragon Master

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Shenron00

[tripfly 264]

Pfft nobody has anythin on these guys

[Shenron00 366]

Pfft nobody has anythin on these guys

The Blue Sparkle of the Sombra force, Trixie! And the Unholy Knight of the Sombra force, Nightmare Moon!

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Shenron00,

That means that Sunset Shimmer chops off Trixie's head, blasts Chrysalis into oblivion, breaks Nightmare Moon's neck, blasts Sombra into nothing as well, and Discord turns into a frog

[Shenron00 366]

@@Shenron00,

That means that Sunset Shimmer chops off Trixie's head, blasts Chrysalis into oblivion, breaks Nightmare Moon's neck, blasts Sombra into nothing as well, and Discord turns into a frog

Lol, watchu talkin' 'bout Willis? I have no idea what the point of that post was. I didn't post that pic, so take it up with them lol. Edited April 16, 2014 by Shenron00