Why aren't princes alicorns?

[RainboomCrash 173]

Blueblood and Shining Armour are both princes, yet neither of them are Alicorns. Why is this? Aren't all members of royalty supposed to be alicorns?

[GaleFenrir 281]

Well, Shining Armor only married into princehood, so that wouldn't automatically elevate him to a higher state of existence.

 

As for Blueblood... well, what is the deal with Blueblood, anyway? Seriously, so little is known about him, or how he fits in with the rest of the royal family. So... *shrugs*

[RainboomCrash 173]

Well, Shining Armor only married into princehood, so that wouldn't automatically elevate him to a higher state of existence.

 

As for Blueblood... well, what is the deal with Blueblood, anyway? Seriously, so little is known about him, or how he fits in with the rest of the royal family. So... *shrugs*

 

Weren't Celestia and Luna born alicorns though? I mean, I guess they could have earned it from lowering and raising the sun/moon...but I was always under the impression that they inherited it.

[The Elusive Cinder 1,328]

 

 

what is the deal with Blueblood, anyway? Seriously, so little is known about him, or how he fits in with the rest of the royal family.

 

Blueblood was actually supposed to be a duke initially - he was made a Prince because (Hasbro / The producers / someone else) didn't think that kids could understand the concept of a 'middle management' authority figure.

Heres what Lauren Faust said in Deviant Art:

 

 

 

He's the great great great great great great great great great great great (and probably even more greats) nephew on Celestia's and Luna's mother's side, about 52 times removed, roughly speaking. I would have preferred to call him a Duke, but someone in the approval process thought kids wouldn't know what a Duke is. Luna and Celestia have no siblings and no children. Also that's a fan name, he has no official name on the show.

[RainboomCrash 173]

Blueblood was actually supposed to be a duke initially - he was made a Prince because (Hasbro / The producers / someone else) didn't think that kids could understand the concept of a 'middle management' authority figure.

Heres what Lauren Faust said in Deviant Art:

Ah ok. Yeah that makes sense. It still doesn't answer why Shining Armour isn't an alicorn though (unless royalty also have to earn that privilege?)

[The Elusive Cinder 1,328]

I imagine it's exactly that: Shining is royalty by marriage - the Alicorns seem to actually embody abstract concepts (Time, Love, Friendship).

 

The options as I see them are being born one (Most likely Celestia and Luna) or ascending to one by becoming an actual embodiment of one of the Elements of Harmony (Cadence was a Pegasus who ascended on becoming a symbol of love, Twilight became the symbol of Magic/Friendship)

[RainboomCrash 173]

I imagine it's exactly that: Shining is royalty by marriage - the Alicorns seem to actually embody abstract concepts (Time, Love, Friendship).

 

The options as I see them are being born one (Most likely Celestia and Luna) or ascending to one by becoming an actual embodiment of one of the Elements of Harmony (Cadence was a Pegasus who ascended on becoming a symbol of love, Twilight became the symbol of Magic/Friendship)

Hmm yeah that's probably it. Still, I'd like to see a male alicorn in the future (probably Shining Armour).

[The Elusive Cinder 1,328]

Element of justice / honor / protection or something like that? The only reason I cant see something like that happening is that he isn't considered an important enough character to merit the multi-part episode it would need to set it up well enough.

[RainboomCrash 173]

Element of justice / honor / protection or something like that? The only reason I cant see something like that happening is that he isn't considered an important enough character to merit the multi-part episode it would need to set it up well enough.

Probably the Element of Loyalty. Although he's not a major character, he is fairly important in Equestria - as he was captain of the guard in Canterlot. He also rules the Crystal Empire with Cadence.

[Digit 321]

Who says we won't see a male alicorn at some point. That amulet trixy had, had to have come from some were and if an alicorn does embody a form of being, an evil one is sure to exists.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Digit

[The Elusive Cinder 1,328]

 

 

if an alicorn does embody a form of being, an evil one is sure to exists.

 

Indeed: if we see King Sombra again, I think that he will have Wings.

 

That said, Male / Female and Good / Evil aren't in the slightest bit related - Sombra could easily have been Queen Sombra and the same would apply.

[Digit 321]

Indeed: if we see King Sombra again, I think that he will have Wings.

 

That said, Male / Female and Good / Evil aren't in the slightest bit related - Sombra could easily have been Queen Sombra and the same would apply.

I wasn't saying it had to be male I mean the show has had an equal number of male bad guys to female so far so yeah. Just saying plenty of opportunity to make a male alicorn

[RainboomCrash 173]

I wasn't saying it had to be male I mean the show has had an equal number of male bad guys to female so far so yeah. Just saying plenty of opportunity to make a male alicorn

The notion of having the only male alicorn as a bad guy doesn't sit well for me though. If they were to do what they did with Discord and transform him into a good guy afterwards it would be ok though.

[GaleFenrir 281]

Probably the Element of Loyalty.

 

but...

 

Dashie.

 

It wouldn't be cool of SA to steal her thing, dawg.

[Digit 321]

The notion of having the only male alicorn as a bad guy doesn't sit well for me though. If they were to do what they did with Discord and transform him into a good guy afterwards it would be ok though.

Yeah it would be a bit of a cliche if they did that, but it seems the show has a running idea of men in power are generally evil unless backed by a strong female leader. I.e shining armor it's just an observation and opinion on my part.

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

Because Alicorn Blueblood would be incredibly lame.

[RainboomCrash 173]

Yeah it would be a bit of a cliche if they did that, but it seems the show has a running idea of men in power are generally evil unless backed by a strong female leader. I.e shining armor it's just an observation and opinion on my part.

Yeah I don't think  it has to be 50/50 in terms of strong characters, but having the only strong males be evil is a bit lame :/

[Digit 321]

Yeah I don't think  it has to be 50/50 in terms of strong characters, but having the only strong males be evil is a bit lame :/

 

What I mean by 50/50 is so far we have had 2 female bad guys and 2 male the number will obviously change. And by strong characters I mean spike is backed by twilight, shining Armor is backed by Candace stuff like that.

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Because there are no real princes by FiM standards. Princesses seem to only be masters of a certain thing, and or born demi-gods.

And because no boys allowed.

[RainboomCrash 173]

What I mean by 50/50 is so far we have had 2 female bad guys and 2 male the number will obviously change. And by strong characters I mean spike is backed by twilight, shining Armor is backed by Candace stuff like that.

Tbf to Shining Armour, him and Cadence kind of work in tandem (in my view anyway). But yeah I get what you mean about the others; Spike is backed by Twilight, Discord is effectively controlled by the Mane 6...the next strongest male character I can think of is Big Mac :S

Because there are no real princes by FiM standards. Princesses seem to only be masters of a certain thing, and or born demi-gods.

And because no boys allowed.

But what about teh menz? :S

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Tbf to Shining Armour, him and Cadence kind of work in tandem (in my view anyway). But yeah I get what you mean about the others; Spike is backed by Twilight, Discord is effectively controlled by the Mane 6...the next strongest male character I can think of is Big Mac :S

But what about teh menz? :S

Well, the show does kinda exist to sell toys to little girls. And ken is the worst selling barbie doll.

[Larkybird~ 734]

Who says we won't see a male alicorn at some point. That amulet trixy had, had to have come from some were and if an alicorn does embody a form of being, an evil one is sure to exists.

 

I'm kidding. I cut off the text from this

 

[Kay Dreamer 884]

It always seemed to me that Equestria is a subtle matriarchy, juxtaposing our world and it's history. Mares are slightly more likely to find themselves in positions of power than stallions are, and may still be considered by Equestrian society to be somewhat better suited for the role. Part of that probably comes from the fact that the two demigod leaders of the country are both female, but it could have been common even before then. (The only male figure from Hearths Warming Eve was the Unicorn King, who we didn't even see.)

 

That could be the biggest reason why we haven't seen male Alicorns yet. It doesn't mean we'll never see one though. I think of Equestria as sitting, historically and technologically, somewhere between the 1920's and 1960's. Socially, they're almost at where we are. The mare/stallion imbalance is starting to work itself out. (I'd like to see a male Alicorn, it could be cool.)

 

Also, please remember - this is a show for little girls. Girls have precious few female figures of authority to look to in media and in society. Again, it's an imbalance which is slowly starting to work itself out... But until then, a show such as My Little Pony which demonstrates that females are suited for leadership and can run a country is very important.

[Metemponychosis 1,262]

My guess is that Blueblood got adopted or something of the sort. Because I can't fathom him doing anything that would make him deserving of the title, like Twilight and Cadance.

Also, Shining Armor got "prince'd" because he married a princess. To be honest, today, more than ever, I wouldn't be calling Blueblood a prince. I'd make some other title for him.

 

I also think that ponies becoming alicorns, and thus princesses or princes should be a very rare occurrence. I don't want them to put a prince just so there is a male alicorn or make them intrinsically different.

[MLPFanatic34 3,241]

It is interesting that there are no male alicorns on the show and only females. I guess because the princesses represent things like love, friendship, and whatever Luna and Celestia represent, also just thought I'd ask alicorns are born right? or are they created like in the case of Cadance and Twilight?