Let's just say what I did & supported, well, if it had been up to me I would have gone straight to 4 strikes... *Reflects for a minute, steels self, & breathes deeply* But I am always harsh on myself for no good reason, I could have done much worse. I am actually quite tired, so I might continue talking to you both tomorrow... Just, try & put it back onto topic when I relog back on tomorrow, please? For Xenolis? That is the other name for my icon I am thinking of... I don't know, work in progress. Here, I'll add mystery so if we do want to do something in a PM I can find both of you easily, ok? Sorry if I seem like a bit of a buzz kill, I just don't want anyone else in trouble for no good reason