GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 All Apejack need to do it get Twilight close and off guard, then give her friend kick with her back legs to knock her out or knock the breath out of her. Then the battle is all hers If she need to take a few hits to do this, even get beat up, Applejack had handle it as she is a much tougher pony with greater endurance. All she needs to do is let Twilight believe she has the advantage, perhaps even get her to gloat a bit, waiting for Twilight to get close, maybe vn think she has one...and Applejack can turn the tables and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Before the barrier stops those attacks and Fluttershy's stare has been beaten before Twilight can't erect a barrier while she's getting her face and horn pummeled. And the stare was only beaten by Discord, you can't compare Twilight to Discord All Apejack need to do it get Twilight close and off guard, then give her friend kick with her back legs to knock her out or knock the breath out of her. Then the battle is all hers If she need to take a few hits to do this, even get beat up, Applejack had handle it as she is a much tougher pony with greater endurance. All she needs to do is let Twilight believe she has the advantage, perhaps even get her to gloat a bit, waiting for Twilight to get close, maybe vn think she has one...and Applejack can turn the tables and win. Twilight is too cautious to gloat and can teleport to confuse AJ and combo her "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 (edited) Twilight Sparkle blasts AJ to pieces with little trouble. keep in mind Twilight has never shown to use or even know anu offensive magic, and her 'beam of ar' during her battle with Tirek cannot count as she was powered up by the other princesses Edited June 15, 2014 by EquestrianScholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeray2000 111 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Applejack, if anything, is the one pony I'd say who'd have the lowest chance of beating Twilight, after Rarity who couldn't do anything at all. Twilight just needs to fly into the air, and then at her leisure she can cast as many spells as she wants. Fluttershy could potentially use her Stare to defeat Twilight, then command Twilight to commit suicide for being a mean pony, possibly. Rainbow could fly in fast, hit Twilights horn disabling Twilight's magic, then fly Twilight high up into the air then cause them both to spiral to the ground, and release Twilight and fly away seconds before impact. Pinkie could do some weird Pinkie thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Twilight is too cautious to gloat and can teleport to confuse AJ and combo her Yet it is possible for Applejack to suprise Twilight and catch her off guard, thus preventing a teleport and counterattack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 keep in mind Twilight has never shown to use or even know anu offensive magic, and her 'beam of ar' during her battle with Tirek cannot count as she was powered up by the other princesses @@jeray2000, Rarity is actually physically more powerful than AJ and knows martial arts, she has a better chance than AJ Pinkie has the lowest change, Pinkie thing is just for comic relief "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 (edited) Twilight can't erect a barrier while she's getting her face and horn pummeled. And the stare was only beaten by Discord, you can't compare Twilight to DiscordThe problem for Rainbow Dash is that she isn't fast enough to reach Twilight before a spell goes off and considering how she has used telekinesis to grab Rainbow Dash whenever she wants her attention, even while she was flying, I don't see how she'll change that. As for Fluttershy, fine I'll concede as the Stare too oped. Edited June 15, 2014 by Nuke87654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Yet it is possible for Applejack to suprise Twilight and catch her off guard, thus preventing a teleport and counterattack. How would that work when Twilight is firing beams at the rate of a gattling gun? The problem for Rainbow Dash is that she isn't fast enough to reach Twilight before a spell goes off and considering how she has used telekinesis to grab Rainbow Dash whenever she wants her attention, even while she was flying, I don't see how she'll change that. As for Fluttershy, fine I'll concede Stare too oped. RD can dodge at least one spell before getting her into a physical brawl. And whenever Twilight grabs RD, typically, RD doesn't try very hard afterwards to move "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nulln 755 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Nothing that happened during the battle with Tirek counts, as Twilight was supercharged with the powers and internal magic of Celestia, Luna, and Cadance. They've never made any mention that having magic makes your actual body invincible or any tougher. Magic is just magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 How would that work when Twilight is firing beams at the rate of a gattling gun?Hmm well I forgot the Canterlot Wedding bit the gattling bit was hile Pinkie was using her. Again, this cointerattack would take place whn Twilight thinks she has already one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 How would that work when Twilight is firing beams at the rate of a gattling gun? RD can dodge at least one spell before getting her into a physical brawl. And whenever Twilight grabs RD, typically, RD doesn't try very hard afterwards to move Still doesn't explain how Rainbow Dash can break out of a telekinetic hold that can move a couple of small building sized objects and said caster has only gotten more powerful since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrashy 2,800 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Well, assuming Twi has full access to her magical powers, I'm gonna have to go with her. Strong (and witty in a pinch) as AJ is, I don't see her being able to get around Twi's magical barriers n' such. At best she could turn it into a stalemate, but unless she can manage to construct an anti-magic energy field beforehand, the odds aren't in her favor. MLP isn't a shounen battle manga. There is no real power balance so you shouldn't have the characters battle one another. Also, why would you have an alicorn fight an earth pony. Um...why? Just because you don't like that some folks enjoy putting characters in scenarios that would never happen in a show doesn't mean they "shouldn't". If this kind of thread is not for you, you're more than welcome to choose not to participate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Hmm well I forgot the Canterlot Wedding bit the gattling bit was hile Pinkie was using her. Again, this cointerattack would take place whn Twilight thinks she has already one. Twilight isn't stupid Still doesn't explain how Rainbow Dash can break out of a telekinetic hold that can move a couple of small building sized objects and said caster has only gotten more powerful since then. Because Rainbow herself can destroy buildings? "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeray2000 111 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 They've never made any mention that having magic makes your actual body invincible or any tougher. Magic is just magic. Well, Earth Pony magic makes them stronger, so that could be interpreted and tougher not just able lift heavier things, and alicorns are part Earth Pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nulln 755 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Well, Earth Pony magic makes them stronger, so that could be interpreted and tougher not just able lift heavier things, and alicorns are part Earth Pony. Then her and AJ would be matched at physical strength, I'd assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 They've never made any mention that having magic makes your actual body invincible or any tougher. Magic is just magic. Laugh so you're trying to say Twilight naturally tougher or more invincible? I'm sorry but it is more reasonable to say her feats were because of being powerd up by three other alicorns Twilight isn't stupid So your saying Applejack isn't smart enough to outsmart Twilight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Twilight isn't stupid Because Rainbow herself can destroy buildings? Only when she has enough speed behind her and she still has no feats of her resisting magic on her own as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nulln 755 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Laugh so you're trying to say Twilight naturally tougher or more invincible? I'm sorry but it is more reasonable to say her feats were because of being powerd up by three other alicorns I've seen another pony similarly crash through a rock before, so physical attacks won't hurt them much either way. Magic has been shown to be effective in defeating enemies though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Laugh so you're trying to say Twilight naturally tougher or more invincible? I'm sorry but it is more reasonable to say her feats were because of being powerd up by three other alicorns So your saying Applejack isn't smart enough to outsmart Twilight? Yes, AJ isn't that smart Only when she has enough speed behind her and she still has no feats of her resisting magic on her own as far as I can tell. She took on the Changelings who have some level of magic pretty well. In fact, she had to be escorted in I've seen another pony similarly crash through a rock before, so physical attacks won't hurt them much either way. Magic has been shown to be effective in defeating enemies though. Bull. RD's wing was trashed after crashing into the ground and if physical attacks didn't hurt them, I doubt that they'd be afraid of Timberwolves "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles 109 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Before the barrier stops those attacks and Fluttershy's stare has been beaten before the only one who ever beat her stair was discord. I would stay twilight even without her wings. teleport magic blasts. however it would be a closer battle. but I must point out something in Apple jacks favor hoof + rock = anti flying pony weapon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeray2000 111 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Then her and AJ would be matched at physical strength, I'd assume. No, because there are still different degrees of earth pony strength. While Twilight would be stronger than must pegasi or unicorns, excepting some like Bulk Biceps, she would still be weaker than AJ. Like how Twilight has stronger unicorn magic than Rarity. Although that relatively small edge on strength AJ has on Twilight isn't nearly strong enough to make up for flight and magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 (edited) I've seen another pony similarly crash through a rock before, so physical attacks won't hurt them much either way. Magic has been shown to be effective in defeating enemies though.Are you talking about Maud Pie? But magic is not uncounterable or unbeatable. Yes, AJ isn't that smartWell I disagree, I believe Applejack is smart enough to trick Twilight. Edited June 15, 2014 by EquestrianScholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 Are you talking about Maud Pie? But magic is not uncounterable or unbeatable. Well I disagree, I believe Applejack is smart enough to trick Twilight. That's a laugh. Twilight is a genius, if somewhat neurotic. AJ is a brute "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 She took on the Changelings who have some level of magic pretty well. In fact, she had to be escorted in. So did the rest of the mane 6. It doesn't mean they have resistance to magic just that they were able to fight them. As for Rainbow Dash being escorted in, just only highlights how stubborn she is and would've escaped without being restrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anilewe 2,178 June 15, 2014 Share June 15, 2014 I'm just going to ignore this topic. It's absurdly pointless. Fan of Applejack? Join us! We have the best cider from Sweet Apple Acres! ORANGESEXY IS THE BEST PONY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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