Who would win in a battle between G1 Tirek and the Mane six?

[_Kurtis 636]

You're really missing the point... I wasn't going to get involved in this thread because it's getting way too ridiculous, but I feel like there's a horrible break down in communication going on here.

 

First of all as for the whole Majesty vs The World argument, we've seen every one of the spells you guys are talking about in G4.  Twilight has transformed living things into oranges, Discord's transformed things into all sorts of other things.  If defeating Tirek was as simple as transforming him into goo and flushing it down the toilet, they would have done that.  But that's not how magic works... we've seen time and time again that some spells don't work against creatures.  You have no way of knowing that Majesty's transformation spell is anything more powerful than what Twilight did.  In all likelihood it would do absolutely nothing to Tirek.  How about her mirror cloning?  Go watch Too Many Pinkie Pies again.  We've seen it done already in G4.  Bottom line is that you're trying to literally compare apples and oranges here... they're from two different generations that are very different so you're not going to win this ridiculous argument that all of her magic is this super duper magic that can defeat anybody.

Also, you keep mentioning that she's killed people... have any of you thought that maybe it takes more strength to not kill an enemy?  The Mane 6 could have killed enemies long ago, but they choose not to, because guess what?  They're above that.  They're not going to go kill anything that gets in their way... so instead they use their magic to find other ways to deal with problems.  It hardly makes them weak for not being willing to go murder every dragon that gets in the way of Ponyville just for the sake of killing it... 

 

Now back to the actual topic of this thread which was Mane 6 vs G1 Tirek...  Rainbow Power/Magic of Friendship/Elements of Harmony are going to win.  Right in the season 4 finale, we heard Twilight call the magic of friendship, "The most powerful magic of all".  It's literally the single most powerful form of magic in all of the G4 world, so of course G1 Tirek is going to lose.  Anybody will lose to it... because it's deus ex machina.  Just like all the deus ex machina in G1, it's a thing the writers get to pull out and let the good guys win with.  We've never seen any sort of weakness in the Magic of Friendship... it's beat every enemy its faced without question and without hesitation.  It just shoots its rainbow powered beam at them and they are defeated.  It banished Luna to the moon, transformed her back into Luna from Nightmare Moon, turned Discord to stone, sucked the magic out of G4 Tirek and delivered all his stolen magic back to who it belonged to... it's a giant ball of magic perfection, so of course they're going to win with it.  And of course they're going to lose without it, but why wouldn't they have it?  They were able to pull it out of thin air in Equestria Girls...  

I keep mentioning that she kills people?

The only post I've written about how she kills an enemy was the same post where I mentioned how she turned evil trolls into foam.

[Simon 4,557]

 

 

I keep mentioning that she kills people? The only post I've written about how she kills an enemy was the same post where I mentioned how she turned evil trolls into foam.

I was addressing you and RPB.  RPB seems to be the one primarily mentioning the killing part... sorry if you thought I was talking to you, I was just trying to address most of the things I remember being said in this thread over and over again... it's a bit hard to keep track when people are just throwing constant topics out that are unrelated to the original post.

[_Kurtis 636]

I was addressing you and RPB.  RPB seems to be the one primarily mentioning the killing part... sorry if you thought I was talking to you, I was just trying to address most of the things I remember being said in this thread over and over again... it's a bit hard to keep track when people are just throwing constant topics out that are unrelated to the original post.

Haha, I even forgot what the actual thread topic was about at one point. 

[Simon 4,557]

I'm not getting the point of the Majesty discussion anyway... are you guys just trying to prove she's a giant Mary Sue?  Because that's what it sounds like... 

 

From what you're saying she can do anything, can defeat anybody, has the most powerful magic in the world, is all knowing, and has no flaws... sure it makes it so she'd win in a fight, but it's hardly a big selling point for G1 that it has flawless Mary Sue characters that sound like they belong in bad fanfics....

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

I was addressing you and RPB.  RPB seems to be the one primarily mentioning the killing part... sorry if you thought I was talking to you, I was just trying to address most of the things I remember being said in this thread over and over again... it's a bit hard to keep track when people are just throwing constant topics out that are unrelated to the original post.

I keep mentioning killing because it's integral to how G1 Tirek came to power in the first place. Without offing Majesty,there was no way G1 Tirek could have done the things he did.

[_Kurtis 636]

Simon, what you are saying goes for G4 Tirek.

Most people are saying that Tirek can counter any Majesty does, and that some of her magic won't work because he's too strong, etc.

Edited June 17, 2014 by 80s Pony

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

I'm not getting the point of the Majesty discussion anyway... are you guys just trying to prove she's a giant Mary Sue?  Because that's what it sounds like... 

 

From what you're saying she can do anything, can defeat anybody, has the most powerful magic in the world, is all knowing, and has no flaws... sure it makes it so she'd win in a fight, but it's hardly a big selling point for G1 that it has flawless Mary Sue characters that sound like they belong in bad fanfics....

Well she isn't invincible because she was killed by G1 Tirek.

[Pinkamena-Pills 6,839]

I'm not getting the point of the Majesty discussion anyway... are you guys just trying to prove she's a giant Mary Sue?  Because that's what it sounds like... 

 

From what you're saying she can do anything, can defeat anybody, has the most powerful magic in the world, is all knowing, and has no flaws... sure it makes it so she'd win in a fight, but it's hardly a big selling point for G1 that it has flawless Mary Sue characters that sound like they belong in bad fanfics....

I think the point was sortof to prove that since G1 Tirek beat Queen Majesty apparently,that meant he could beat anyone who was below her..or atleast thats what i think RPB was going for. Then it turned into G4 Tirek vs Queen Majesty because since...idk anymore..