Your opinion of "It's About Time" and its connection with "Twilight's Kingdom"?

[GuillermoGage 246]

There was a line in Twilight's Kingdom about how Tirek escaped Tartarus, because that three-headed dog FluffyCerberus wasn't guarding it... a reference to a scene in It's About Time.

 

...It's About Time is actually one of my least favorite episodes because of the silly plot. While I do understand that it "creates a stable time loop" by having Twilight ultimately still have motivation to go back in time and meet her past self from the few das before... it still has circular logic.. I prefer for there to be an actual original reason for why Future Twilight showed up in the first place. I'm coming up wit headcanons about reformed Discord...

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

It is interesting to see how they referenced this completely random episode in Twilight's Kingdom. It does make up for the fact of not seeing Tartarus in that episode.

[Nulln 755]

What if future Twilight was warning her about Tirek 

[GuillermoGage 246]

The whole reason why I got to th thinkng about his was because... someone on a forum ... before Twilight's Kingdom, thought about if the initial appearance of future Twilight came to warn Twilie about leading Cerbes away... and then that version of future Twilight got replaced b the circular logic future Twilight, which in the context of the situation looked exactly the same.

 

Personally, It's About Time bothers me moreso due to it now having plot significance in the S4 finale. So therefore I prefer aa solid explanation of the timeline to be worked out, figured out, reasoned out.

[Old Fluttershy 349]

I can't believe I just wasted my time analyzing both scenes where Twilight goes back in time. There is absolutely no significant difference in any of the scenes and the fact that Twilight sais she's from next Tuesday morning prohibits this from being about Tirek. Honestly it was probably some "foreshadowing" thing made by Hasbro (or a really good coincidence). Don't waste your time like I did.

[Orablanco Account 3,708]

I honestly think it was just the writers looking back through their catalogue of episodes and realizing they could make this nifty little callback to an episode the writers consider one of their favorites. They could have easily said Tirek escaped Tartarus without that explanation. It wasn't planned ahead, but its cool nonetheless.

[Pastel 7,630]

I'm still not sure that was made on purpose.

 

What if future Twilight was warning her about Tirek 

(Actually she just wanted to tell her not to worry about the future.)

Edited August 12, 2014 by Blobulle

[Nulln 755]

I'm still not sure that was made on purpose.

 

(Actually she just wanted to tell her not to worry about the future.)

But she had to have gone back to the past in the first place to warn her about something.  She wouldn't have worried and traveled back to tell her not to worry unless something happened in the first place to make a Twilight go back to the past to warn herself of something.  And then somewhere down the line, she just decided that what she was trying to say was to not worry, and then went back in time to warn twilight not to worry, and then the time loop starts over.

[Pastel 7,630]

But she had to have gone back to the past in the first place to warn her about something. She wouldn't have worried and traveled back to tell her not to worry unless something happened in the first place to make a Twilight go back to the past to warn herself of something. And then somewhere down the line, she just decided that what she was trying to say was to not worry, and then went back in time to warn twilight not to worry, and then the time loop starts over.

About "something"?

 

The only reason Twilight wanted to travel back was to warn her past self not to worry. That was very important to her (IMO).

Edited August 12, 2014 by Blobulle

[Nulln 755]

About "something"?

 

The only reason Twilight wanted to travel back was to warn her past self not to worry. That was very important to her (IMO).

But she wouldn't have worried in the first place if she didn't travel back to the past.  And the very first twilight wouldn't travel to the past to tell her not to worry, since she didn't get a visit from a future twilight.  So the first twilight must have had another reason to go back.  I've always wondered what the reason was.

[ShadowPirateX 600]

It's pretty interesting to think that Tirek has been around ever since Season 2.

[Invincible 2,092]

Felt a bit weak and unnecessary if you ask me. I mean, we could just have another go and say the princesses banished him by scaring him away with the elements of harmony or something, then "Durr, Tirek returned because he heard you gave up the elements".

 

Don't get me wrong, i liked seeing Tartarus being used, a little bit of a callback and then some Cerberus cameo by the end. However, i can't shake the feeling that it was completely unnecessary for the plot.

[Pastel 7,630]

But she wouldn't have worried in the first place if she didn't travel back to the past. And the very first twilight wouldn't travel to the past to tell her not to worry, since she didn't get a visit from a future twilight. So the first twilight must have had another reason to go back. I've always wondered what the reason was.

I finally understand what you mean, but my head is going to explode. x_x

 

That makes senses, but since it's a time paradox, I don't know if there's a "first Twilight".

 

: what would be this other reason, she couldn't know about Tirek, right?

Edited August 12, 2014 by Blobulle

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

time you say?

 

I honestly enjoyed that little call back. FiM has been critasized before for not having much long term continuity between it's episodes (for example flutters learning not to be a doormat/shy 4 times). I enjoyed it because it did use an earlier episode as a call back gag, maintaining the idea that Equestria is a fully functional world and the events in it do have an impact on their world at large. It was also a great time saver excuse, as they didn't have to go into detail about how he escaped from hell, because it was already canon that the guard had left his post. It was a nice little call back to an earlier time in the show, and a very economic way to explain how he escaped.

[Nulln 755]

I finally understand what you mean, but my head is going to explode. x_x

 

That makes senses, but since it's a time paradox, I don't know if there's a "first Twilight".

lol, i know, i was trying to explain it without it being confusing.  XD I was about ready to draw a picture.

 

There had to have been a first Twilight though.  The future twilight didn't just pop into existence out of nowhere.

[sweetolebob18 728]

Although, because of Future Twilight, Cerberus was caught fairly quickly + they fixed a number of potential problems.  You have to wonder "Would it have been worse if she hadn't gone back in time?"

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

Eh, I'm not a big fan of rectons like this, where you take a random element and suddenly give it more meaning.  A good example of a recton would be the letters in Season 1 since it was planned like that (so not really a recton at all). Here it's just "Hey you remember that one thing, well turns out we decided it's important now"  Overall it's not a big deal and it doesn't detract from the episode at all but they seem to be doing this sort of thing more often so I'm just giving my two cents on the matter.