Would you be friends with a creep

[Invincible 2,091]

I'm a guy, but with all things considered, sure why the hell not?

 

It's not like i'll be meeting the other person in real life if i don't want to. And i think the most likely reason people do that is because they're lonely. If they're not assholes, and i'm okay with their company, then sure.

[Nulln 755]

i was friends with someone like that.   we were friends for a few years. but after quite a few times of me not wanting to go out with him, he made it pretty clear that he was never interested in friendship, and then moved on to the next girl.

[Shanks 10,816]

This. But that's all thy have, is stories. They don't have my respect because I think it's a terrible mindset to have when the same time caving into pointless lust is better spend improving an aspect of their life.

That is quite the judgmental and inaccurate statement, just because someone is a little pervy dosen't mean that they only thing they do in life is who they are doing it with. Life is about balance and too much of anything can be very damaging but at the same time life is too short to be so uptight about everything. Most of us get horny every now and then and I think we would be a lot better off if we didn't have this contradictory view on sex where it is vilified and put on a pedestal at the same time.

[Twilight Circuits 603]

That is quite the judgmental and inaccurate statement, just because someone is a little pervy dosen't mean that they only thing they do in life is who they are doing it with. Life is about balance and too much of anything can be very damaging but at the same time life is too short to be so uptight about everything. Most of us get horny every now and then and I think we would be a lot better off if we didn't have this contradictory view on sex where it is vilified and put on a pedestal at the same time.

there's nothing judgemental about noting the aactions of others and seeing it's concequences all by my own observation and experience and not interfering while seeing it take place. It means that I myself, have advanced enough in terms of respect to myself and others that by quiting that behavior in myself long enough to see it have a positive impact on my life and never want to look back. It means respecting other people not instill that behavior upon them. I will gladly compliment you in a friendly professional like manner when I see fit. I just don't gawk and hoot and holler, and always talk about how i was trying to 'get with some chick'. I got plenty of better things to do with my time let myself be privy to that kind of behavior. 

   There's a difference between that kind of behavior and doing something out of love. Lust is what blinds you to learning about love for yourself and others. I know of no person that made a genuine success of their life model lustful behvior. If anything, business minded people such as myself often find those people remain 'employees', or become the boss everyone thinks is on okay guy, but still somehow a real jerk.

   So if you're actually going to play  the 'life is about balance' card. I've seen it from more sides and aspects then one which kinda leads me to my final and truthful observation: It IS something to overcome and understand when you are on the right path to achieving a fulfilling life. I see many improve their life, sure, but I see how this lesson is still blind to them and hurdle in their path. Nothing of which I can about accept tolerate it or be a silent guide if I can.

[Shift 4,272]

It depends on some factors.

[Shanks 10,816]

there's nothing judgemental about noting the aactions of others and seeing it's concequences all by my own observation and experience and not interfering while seeing it take place.

I sounds an awful lot you are saying that these people are beneath you and that you are better than them, if I am misinterpreting what you are trying to say my apologies but you keep talking about things like self control like it is some light switch you can automatically turn on and off when self control is great people are a bit more complicated than that and just because you can do that and most people can't dosen't make you better than them or them lesser than you.

 

 

 

I just don't gawk and hoot and holler, and always talk about how i was trying to 'get with some chick'.

I try not to stare and definitely don't hoot and holler and can understand why you wouldn't want to associate with people that do those sorts of things. Talking about things like getting laid and stuff is okay on certain occasions with the right people. For me personally though I may be a pervy bastard but I don't think I could just get with some random person and sleep with them but I also think it is not my place to judge other peoples decisions.

[Starshine 16,334]

I don't mind befriending a creep, as long as I get to last-hit them and get the gold bounty

 

Oh wait wrong kind of creep. Hm, I don't really think guys looking after girls on the internet would instantly count them as a 'creep'. A lot of perfectly socially adept people are doing that too on facebook and the like. Truth to be told I'd be tad weirded out but ultimately I have no problem with them

[Thrashy 2,800]

Given that the core question of this thread is predicated on a term that is, at best, arbitrarily defined, I'm gonna have to go with "no comment". Reason being that I, myself, may easily fit someone else's definition of "creep". Not to mention I have many friends whom one may superficially grant that label, despite not knowing them (then again, when has not knowing a stranger ever been an obstacle in prejudging them, amirite? ).

 

Hell. Every single one of us on these forums is a creep according to a good chunk of the population.

 

But even if I'm to go with the definition loosely defined in the OP of "guys who try to pick up chicks online"...um, yeah. Look, I know the concept of "dating", let alone online dating is kind of a foreign concept to 'le wilde brony', but...um...that's kind of what the human animal does; look for suitable mates. The instinctual desire for companionship cannot justifiably be labeled as "creepy" unless shady means of attaining it (stalking, drugging, etc.) are involved, at least IMO.

[Valkyrian 2]

Really depends what you define as a 'creep', I am willing to be friends with most people but I guess it depends how far and what depths their 'creepiness' goes too  

[Live Forever 316]

I'm a creep. My best friend is a creep.

So YEAH!

[Panne 1,342]

Fun fact I'm a creep and when I befriend you I make you a creep too.

 

Seriously though I have converted so many people to socially deplorable things it is hilarious.

[Twilight Circuits 603]

I sounds an awful lot you are saying that these people are beneath you and that you are better than them, if I am misinterpreting what you are trying to say my apologies but you keep talking about things like self control like it is some light switch you can automatically turn on and off when self control is great people are a bit more complicated than that and just because you can do that and most people can't dosen't make you better than them or them lesser than you.

I am not saying they are beneath and I am better. Don't need to say those words to know them as the truth from the get go.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

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I gotta agree with Twilight Circuts

I've seen an unproportionate amount of people that is being described here (the ones who go and looking to dip their wicks, taking about dirty sh*t with their bros 24/7), and I judge them. I admit. Not necessarily proud of it, but I'm not ashamed either, because THEY serve as an example as what I don't want to be.

 

Not because I'm better than them though, or because my self-control is better (which, consideing I've never done drugs or gotten anyone pregnant, I guess it is), but because...sh*t...It's a matter of decency. I don't hang with indecent people that do indecent things, same reason why I don't associate myself with people who do drugs IRL.

[Shanks 10,816]

I am not saying they are beneath and I am better. Don't need to say those words to know them as the truth from the get go.

Do you have any idea how arrogant and self serving that sounds? I now know there is simply no talking to you about this or anything for that matter. If you are are a saint and everyone else is scum you can't possibly be wrong because you are gods gift to mankind and everyone else can't possibly be right. I can understand not associating with certain people because of clashing beliefs and values but come on man this a bit ridiculous. All you are going to do is cause unnecessary conflict and turn people away with that kind of talk. I think I am pretty much done here, like I said before a conversation in this situation is impossible, goodnight.

[mars 4,862]

Given how I'm often the one being creeped on, I'd have to say no. It's intimidating, degrading, and more often than not the guy drops you like a stone the moment you indicate you're not interested in a relationship anyway.

 

I am a rather trusting person my nature, and it hurts a lot whenever I find out a person whose friendship I value isn't actually interested in that friendship at all. While it doesn't stop me making new friends, there's always that lingering fear that my friendship may be seen as a 'consolation prize'... and it drives me insane.

Kay darling, as usual, you said exactly what I was thinking. ... It's really weird when that happens, and I don't like to associate myself with people like that. And as Kay mentioned, it hurts like hell. I feel as if I've sort of distanced myself on some sites because of this. Although I have fantastic friends who I love dearly, I'm always a bit worried my next friend will just want a relationship with me, and then get angry when I... Ugh. "Friendzone" him.

 

Of course, I'll admit. Not all creeps are looking for relationship. But... I have to say, I do get creeped and out drop communication, only to get a million messages from those people asking where I am.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Creeps...just what is a creep?

 

I don't think its something that can just be defined as being pervy. Plenty of guys that are like that, but otherwise are exceptional social animals.

 

Is it social awkwardness then? Can't say that's it either. We can be awkward but, not necessarily doing anything inappropriate.

 

I just got back from the con in Austin TX, and I met plenty of socially awkward folks, and pervy folks, but only one stood out as creepy. If you're familiar with the world of conventions, you might have a pretty good guess who I'm talking about, however I'm not naming any names.

 

This guy walked around mostly by himself. Slouching, eyes on ground, talking to no one. When he did look at someone, like a girl, you could see from his mannerisms and subtle gestures that his thoughts weren't exactly chaste. He lingered longer than he should around certain people, asked inappropriate questions to panelists, and no matter where I went, when he was around he stood out like a radioactive glowing beacon of creepiness.

 

I felt sorry for him, in truth. He seemed completely oblivious to the image he was projecting to everyone around him, but I learned enough about him to know he has had people talk to him about it before.

 

Found something interesting on a cracked article that made me stop and made me reflect on the way I once saw myself and thought of myself.

 

 

[you get a cookie if you can tell me which article I got these images from]

 

 

I think this is the crux of the creep. I'm not talking about someone who could be defined as a little creepy, like my bud EarthBending, but I'm talking about a true creep. Someone not only out of touch socially, but someone so self entitled and self centered that they expect their life to go like a narrative arc, and just sees others filling in as roles in their story. Out of touch with reality.

 

Or...or...maybe not out of touch with reality, but so alienated by it, instead of looking within themselves to figure out what the problem is, they turn around and alienate the world right back, and when the world responds negatively it just reinforces their behavior because they feel like they're the victim.

 

Or both, or it could be either. I'm not a creep taxonomist.

 

I suppose we have all been a little like this to varying degrees, but the true creep is like this to the point of sheer utter irrationality.

 

The question is...how do we respond to the true creep?

 

We should reason with them, first...explain why what they do isn't appropriate...

 

...however reason doesn't always work and the creep sometimes wanders for a bit, before the "act right" gets pummeled into them...which may either work, or plant the seeds of psychopathy.

 

I dunno a damn thing, really. Might be wrong about everything I typed. These are just my own thoughts. Take them as you will.

[Gone Airbourne 21,977]

The only creep I would befriend would be.......

 

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

Fun fact I'm a creep and when I befriend you I make you a creep too.

 

Seriously though I have converted so many people to socially deplorable things it is hilarious.

What a strange and wonderful post lol. xD

Btw this topic made me think of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT1DdO3SISg

 

There: I was almost on-topic. xD

[Twilight Circuits 603]

Do you have any idea how arrogant and self serving that sounds? I now know there is simply no talking to you about this or anything for that matter. If you are are a saint and everyone else is scum you can't possibly be wrong because you are gods gift to mankind and everyone else can't possibly be right. I can understand not associating with certain people because of clashing beliefs and values but come on man this a bit ridiculous. All you are going to do is cause unnecessary conflict and turn people away with that kind of talk. I think I am pretty much done here, like I said before a conversation in this situation is impossible, goodnight.

lol There's nothing wrong with setting a standard for oneself let alone others. Your forgetting personal developement is a part of who I am and that I come from a diverse negative background i escaped from. There's nothing rediculous of the sort here other then your reaction.

If anything the rediculous part would be publically admitting on a public searchable forum that your a creep. Call me arrogant all you like but I'm serving you setting this standard and living up to a name people can look upon and look up to. Nothing wrong with keeping a good profile.

[Thrashy 2,800]

 

 

Although I have fantastic friends who I love dearly, I'm always a bit worried my next friend will just want a relationship with me, and then get angry when I... Ugh. "Friendzone" him.

 

Just like to deliver a counter-"ugh" to your "ugh" and inquire as to why it's such a bad thing for someone to approach another with romantic intent. As I said before, courtship is kind of a thing that humans do. We - or at least, most of us - seek companionship. It's a completely natural tendency to search for that suitable person with whom you'd like to start a life. And frankly, I find the all-too-prevalent mindset that anyone who complains about being "friendzoned" is automatically a sleazeball who was never interested in anything more than a cheap lay...hilariously ignorant, if not insensitive as all hell.

 

Not to make any assumptions about your character specifically, but I'd like to posit that a good deal of those who adamantly adhere to that generalization tend to be people who've never had to experience the heartbreak of unrequited love. I can tell you from past experiences that it is, in fact, quite possible for someone to fall in love with a person they've spent a lot of time with, but aren't actively dating. And to essentially be told that "I know that you've always been a supportive friend who I share almost everything with, but something about you just isn't good enough for me to want to choose you as my 'special someone' :\" is - quite understandably, I feel - a frustrating, heart-shattering and soul-crushing experience all around. If they seem angry, it's not anger that they "didn't get to fuck you"; it's anger that you have most likely smashed what little sense of self-confidence they had to begin with.

 

Now true, some people are more mature about handling rejection than others, and the rejected should never get vindictive about it. But at least some amount of hard feelings is to be expected so long as the person in question is...well, human. Can you really fault someone who honestly believed you were "the one" for feeling led-on, manipulated and humiliated? Is it really so mean-spirited of them to decide they can't hang around you anymore, given that just being near you causes them pain?

 

It's so easy to think about how such a situation affects you, and how they're just a big ol' meanie-head because "my friendship wasn't good enough for them". But if you take the time to look at it from another perspective you'll realize that, in circumstances like these, neither side is the "bad guy". You're not at fault for simply not feeling the same way about them, and they're not at fault for feeling the way they do about you. So in sum, to lump "friendzone complainers" in with creeps who are only interested in banging you is inaccurate, ignorant, and just plain insensitive.

 

I really hope I've opened the eyes to at least a few of you, but if not...well, guess I'ma just take my soapbox and mosey on out of here.

[mars 4,862]

Just like to deliver a counter-"ugh" to your "ugh" and inquire as to why it's such a bad thing for someone to approach another with romantic intent. As I said before, courtship is kind of a thing that humans do. We - or at least, most of us - seek companionship. It's a completely natural tendency to search for that suitable person with whom you'd like to start a life. And frankly, I find the all-too-prevalent mindset that anyone who complains about being "friendzoned" is automatically a sleazeball who was never interested in anything more than a cheap lay...hilariously ignorant, if not insensitive as all hell.

 

Not to make any assumptions about your character specifically, but I'd like to posit that a good deal of those who adamantly adhere to that generalization tend to be people who've never had to experience the heartbreak of unrequited love. I can tell you from past experiences that it is, in fact, quite possible for someone to fall in love with a person they've spent a lot of time with, but aren't actively dating. And to essentially be told that "I know that you've always been a supportive friend who I share almost everything with, but something about you just isn't good enough for me to want to choose you as my 'special someone' :\" is - quite understandably, I feel - a frustrating, heart-shattering and soul-crushing experience all around. If they seem angry, it's not anger that they "didn't get to fuck you"; it's anger that you have most likely smashed what little sense of self-confidence they had to begin with.

 

Now true, some people are more mature about handling rejection than others, and the rejected should never get vindictive about it. But at least some amount of hard feelings is to be expected so long as the person in question is...well, human. Can you really fault someone who honestly believed you were "the one" for feeling led-on, manipulated and humiliated? Is it really so mean-spirited of them to decide they can't hang around you anymore, given that just being near you causes them pain?

 

It's so easy to think about how such a situation affects you, and how they're just a big ol' meanie-head because "my friendship wasn't good enough for them". But if you take the time to look at it from another perspective you'll realize that, in circumstances like these, neither side is the "bad guy". You're not at fault for simply not feeling the same way about them, and they're not at fault for feeling the way they do about you. So in sum, to lump "friendzone complainers" in with creeps who are only interested in banging you is inaccurate, ignorant, and just plain insensitive.

 

I really hope I've opened the eyes to at least a few of you, but if not...well, guess I'ma just take my soapbox and mosey on out of here.

Erm, you misunderstood me.

I don't mind that they fall for me, no. I just hate the term "friendzone". It makes us who are doing the friendzoning sound like total douchebags. I hate hurting a person's feelings, and so I hate having to say: "Oh.. I only like you as a friend." It majorly sucks for both parties involved.

[Thrashy 2,800]

I don't mind that they fall for me, no. I just hate the term "friendzone". It makes us who are doing the friendzoning sound like total douchebags. I hate hurting a person's feelings, and so I hate having to say: "Oh.. I only like you as a friend." It majorly sucks for both parties involved.

 

I do get that the term does tend to bring to mind the douchey "player" type who only seeks to prey on girls. It just seems like any guys who openly lament being turned down by someone they had strong feelings for are automatically assumed to be "butthurt that they didn't get the V", and that pisses me off to no end. Especially since it doesn't seem to apply to women; they can bemoan being turned down by a guy till they're blue in the face, and yet I've never once heard "aw, she's just mad cuz she didn't get the D".

 

I just don't think guys who approach women with romantic intentions really deserve to be lumped in the same category as the "creeps" established by the OP, is all. But if I misconstrued your post, then I apologize for the ranty wall-o-text.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Erm, you misunderstood me.

I don't mind that they fall for me, no. I just hate the term "friendzone". It makes us who are doing the friendzoning sound like total douchebags. I hate hurting a person's feelings, and so I hate having to say: "Oh.. I only like you as a friend." It majorly sucks for both parties involved.

I guarantee you it sucks a lot more for the other person involved.

You're just turning them down, at the risk of sounding "like total douchebags", the other person has a million tons running through their head: "what did I do wrong? Was my initial impression not good enough? Am I that ugly? What the Greek is wrong with me that person A doesn't like-like me?"

Edited September 9, 2014 by Dattebayo

[Skyfall 14]

Why does going on the internet searching for girls make someone creepy? Or do you mean for them to stalk... confused! I'm usually willing to be friends with most people within reason, if they are really creepy or pervy then probably not 

[Hashi 323]

Hehehehe

I know somebody who is slightly creepy and trying to get a girlfriend on the internet, but I normally dont talk with him about that

 

tbh I don't morally understand all these "booty calls" and "one night stands" :/ it might just be me but *ahem* intimacy of that level is for two (or more, whatever floats your boat) people that love and trust each other

Although I have trust issues 

But casual intimacy is a little over the top, this is why I'm not a particularly big fan of finding girls on the internet, who do you know is on the other end? How can you know them.