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Possible that the crash may have destabilized the display driver. So that'd make sense. Just curious, but when you overclock, how far are you going (offset) before you start running games or benching?

Typically 146MHz on the core and 133MHz on the memory. Nothing really huge.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

Typically 146MHz on the core and 133MHz on the memory. Nothing really huge.

 

133 MHz is not much for the RAM, but 146 MHz is huge for core offset. I'm only stable up until about +130 MHz on my core (GTX 970 SC). This gives me a boost clock of around 1490 MHz during games.

 

Since boost clocks vary between boards, have you checked what your boost clock is during gaming?

[long gone 8,929]

133 MHz is not much for the RAM, but 146 MHz is huge for core offset. I'm only stable up until about +130 MHz on my core (GTX 970 SC). This gives me a boost clock of around 1490 MHz during games.

 

Since boost clocks vary between boards, have you checked what your boost clock is during gaming?

At stock, my boost clock is 1228MHz. During the few seconds of gameplay I get when overclocked it increases to 1336MHz.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

At stock, my boost clock is 1228MHz. During the few seconds of gameplay I get when overclocked it increases to 1336MHz.

 

1336 MHz is not bad at all for a 760. While you might not have the best overclocker, that's still nothing to sneeze at. If you do end up RMAing it, you run the risk of getting one that overclocks worse, so keep that in mind.

[long gone 8,929]

1336 MHz is not bad at all for a 760. While you might not have the best overclocker, that's still nothing to sneeze at. If you do end up RMAing it, you run the risk of getting one that overclocks worse, so keep that in mind.

I might also end up getting a GTX 960 to replace it, which means that I would have to overclock it a helluva lot to overcome that narrow 128-bit bus.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

I might also end up getting a GTX 960 to replace it, which means that I would have to overclock it a helluva lot to overcome that narrow 128-bit bus.

 

If you do end up doing that, I would consider boards with better power delivery to help in your overclocking pursuits.

 

http://techreport.com/review/27806/five-geforce-gtx-960-cards-overclocked/2

[long gone 8,929]

If you do end up doing that, I would consider boards with better power delivery to help in your overclocking pursuits.

 

http://techreport.com/review/27806/five-geforce-gtx-960-cards-overclocked/2

Is the power delivery of the Asus Sabertooth Z97 not good enough?

[Azure Envy 1,092]

Is the power delivery of the Asus Sabertooth Z97 not good enough?

Referring to the power delivery of the 960 board.

[long gone 8,929]

Referring to the power delivery of the 960 board.

oh.

 

I know EVGA recently upgraded all their cards to have 6+2 power phases, would that be good?

[Mouse 302]

 

 

The USB monitor you linked is intended for people to hook into to their laptops so they can have access to a second monitor. You can definitely use it with a small desktop, but in my opinion you'd be better off getting a normal monitor and finding yourself a small surge protector so you can plug in your PC and monitor.

 

As for using it on an airplane, you can forget about it unless you routinely fly first or business class. There's no way you're going to fit it -- and you'll probably have to deal with airport security more than you'd care to.

 

If you're going to be bringing this around a lot, I'd really just get a laptop with a 970M, it's pretty damned good, imo and can be found in relatively affordable gaming laptops.

 

I know this all sounds like heresy in this thread but if you actually want to be using this on a plane or in Starbucks, it's just going to be a ton of hassle, and not because you have two plugs you need to find outlets for.

 

I don't know about the size thing, it probably wouldn't be a big problem on airplanes actually... The HTPC case I was looking at is 4.1" x 15" x 13.8", and the monitor is only .3" thick and can fit entirely in the area of the HTPC case, while most airlines allow carry-ons the size of 10" x 16" x 24". Theoretically, it should be able to fit fine in a carry-on bag.

 

Pretty much the only reason I'm thinking of this idea is because I'm on a budget of $1200 and want the most performance for the dollar while having something fairly portable. A nice Sager laptop with a 970m costs $1200, while I could build an upgradable desktop and buy the USB monitor for $1200 with a R9 290/3xx/GTX 970 and a 4690k that gets crazy good game performance: 60 FPS in Crysis 3 maxed instead of 30 FPS with the 970m. The only sacrafice is thinness and the ability to use it without a power source.

 

I don't know what I'll go with tbh, it's all still up in the air. But it seems like a pretty good setup to me unless I'm missing any downsides.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

oh.

 

I know EVGA recently upgraded all their cards to have 6+2 power phases, would that be good?

 

Based on that review, the Gigabyte leads the pack along with the MSI -- but they're so close to each other, I'm not sure if it'd make all that big a difference.

 

But if you want to push it to the limit, just something to consider.

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Based on that review, the Gigabyte leads the pack along with the MSI -- but they're so close to each other, I'm not sure if it'd make all that big a difference.

 

But if you want to push it to the limit, just something to consider.

All right then. I was just saying I might get a 960 because EVGA is like that.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

I don't know about the size thing, it probably wouldn't be a big problem on airplanes actually... The HTPC case I was looking at is 4.1" x 15" x 13.8", and the monitor is only .3" thick and can fit entirely in the area of the HTPC case, while most airlines allow carry-ons the size of 10" x 16" x 24". Theoretically, it should be able to fit fine in a carry-on bag.

 

Pretty much the only reason I'm thinking of this idea is because I'm on a budget of $1200 and want the most performance for the dollar while having something fairly portable. A nice Sager laptop with a 970m costs $1200, while I could build an upgradable desktop and buy the USB monitor for $1200 with a R9 290/3xx/GTX 970 and a 4690k that gets crazy good game performance: 60 FPS in Crysis 3 maxed instead of 30 FPS with the 970m. The only sacrafice is thinness and the ability to use it without a power source.

 

I don't know what I'll go with tbh, it's all still up in the air. But it seems like a pretty good setup to me unless I'm missing any downsides.

 

Oh, I thought you actually wanted to use it on the plane.

 

Well that's fine, if you want something that can be packed up from place to place, what you're doing will work. Still think you should put that monitor money towards something like 144Hz gaming monitor and just deal with the extra power cord. There's also a question of how the computer is going to deal with a primary monitor being USB 3.0. I don't have any experience with them, so I can't be of much help there, I'm afraid.

[Mouse 302]

Oh, I thought you actually wanted to use it on the plane.

 

Well that's fine, if you want something that can be packed up from place to place, what you're doing will work. Still think you should put that monitor money towards something like 144Hz gaming monitor and just deal with the extra power cord. There's also a question of how the computer is going to deal with a primary monitor being USB 3.0. I don't have any experience with them, so I can't be of much help there, I'm afraid.

I would like to use it on a plane if it has power outlets next to the seats... If I fit the thing in a backpack and pulled it out and plugged it in, do you think they'd hassle me?

 

The only problem with buying a normal monitor is that it has to be big, as most are 21.5" or larger. It's just not very convenient from a portability standpoint.

 

But wait... couldn't I buy one of these things to power both the monitor and the PC from one outlet?

 

 

That would alleviate the need of having to find two.

Edited February 23, 2015 by Mouse

[Azure Envy 1,092]

I would like to use it on a plane if it has power outlets next to the seats... If I fit the thing in a backpack and pulled it out and plugged it in, do you think they'd hassle me?

 

The only problem with buying a normal monitor is that it has to be big, as most are 21.5" or larger. It's just not very convenient from a portability standpoint.

 

But wait... couldn't I buy one of these things to power both the monitor and the PC from one outlet?

 

That would alleviate the need of having to find two.

 

I think the person sitting next to you is probably going to take offense to you attempting to do that.

 

Also, most plane outlets are in the neighborhood of 70-100W, which isn't even enough to power/charge a standard gaming laptop at the same time, so probably not.

 

You could, but seeing as you're plugging your computer into it, it'd be worth the extra couple bucks to find a travel surge protector. Just look that up on Amazon or something and you'll get a ton of matches.

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All right then. I was just saying I might get a 960 because EVGA is like that.

Try reinstalling the GPU driver.

[long gone 8,929]

Try reinstalling the GPU driver.

I'll try that tomorrow, kinda need my GPU right now.

[Mouse 302]

I think the person sitting next to you is probably going to take offense to you attempting to do that.

 

Also, most plane outlets are in the neighborhood of 70-100W, which isn't even enough to power/charge a standard gaming laptop at the same time, so probably not.

 

You could, but seeing as you're plugging your computer into it, it'd be worth the extra couple bucks to find a travel surge protector. Just look that up on Amazon or something and you'll get a ton of matches.

That's a shame. No way 100W can power a desktop that draws 400w at full load. But about the wattage provided by a plane outlet: if a gaming laptop ran at, say, 150W under full load, would a 100W plane outlet at least provide enough power to allow the laptop to discharge a lot slower? Like, instead of discharging in an hour while gaming it would take 4 hours while plugged in because the outlet is providing some power.

 

 

Also, I'm curious, do you know how much wattage a standard house outlet would supply? I'd guess somewhere around 1500-2000W?

Edited February 23, 2015 by Mouse

[Azure Envy 1,092]

That's a shame. No way 100W can power a desktop that draws 400w at full load. But about the wattage provided by a plane outlet: if a gaming laptop ran at, say, 150W under full load, would a 100W plane outlet at least provide enough power to allow the laptop to discharge a lot slower? Like, instead of discharging in an hour while gaming it would take 4 hours while plugged in because the outlet is providing some power.

 

 

Also, I'm curious, do you know how much wattage a standard house outlet would supply? I'd guess somewhere around 1500-2000W?

 

Heh, the reason I even know about this is because a friend of mine with a workstation laptop attempted the same thing. If you're able to find a sub-100W power supply for the laptop, like a 90W, you might be able to get away with using the laptop OR charging it slowly, but not both at the same time, it really depends on the laptop if it'll even let you run it with a low power adapter. Of course, if you can't find a sub-100 and try to plug it in anyway you'll probably trip the protection at the outlet.

 

15A@120V for 1800W or 20A@120V so 2400W. It depends, you can check at your house's circuit box. Per breaker, not outlet.

 

I've never come anywhere near those limits with a computer though.

Edited February 23, 2015 by Lunatic Envy

[Mouse 302]

So basically, if the airplane has a standard wall outlet that looks like the one you'd find in your house, you can charge the laptop with a standard charger but not very quickly, right? And use it while it's "charging"? And I probably wouldn't bother charging a laptop on any airplane that requires an adapter because it doesn't have a standard wall outlet.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

So basically, if the airplane has a standard wall outlet that looks like the one you'd find in your house, you can charge the laptop with a standard charger but not very quickly, right? And use it while it's "charging"? And I probably wouldn't bother charging a laptop on any airplane that requires an adapter because it doesn't have a standard wall outlet.

 

Not all planes are equipped with standard wall outlets, you'd need to check with the airline for specifics on the plane you're flying on. So long as the charger doesn't try to draw more power than the outlet can deliver, it'll be fine. That limits you to ultrabooks and other low powered laptops though, for the most part.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

I did a thing in Hitman Absolution

 

[Panne 1,342]

I'll just leave this here:

[Mouse 302]

Hey guys, do you think the next series of Nvidia mobile GPUs (10xxm or whatever they're gonna call them) will be out by this June?

[Plageius 263]

And.....GTAV for PC's been delayed AGAIN!

Either they really want to make this the best port possible or they're just spending the development money on office parties and booze.