Why the seemingly Utopian G3 would actually be a Dystopia

[Medievilfan17 9]

First of all, no males, this is one HUGE reason why G3 would be a dystopia! If there are no guys, then within 20 - 50 years, no one will be around, since the process of reproduction would be impossible! Watch every G3 episode (if you dare) and count every guy you see (they HAVE to be mentioned as a he, don't count guys on appearance, also don't count Spike) excluding Spike, your final number should be *drumroll* zero. Two, every single pony is stupid, (They think that there are 4 colors in the rainbow and that one of them is pink, and no one noticed there was no candy cane on top of the tree in 'A Very Minty Christmas') If society has ONLY stupid people, then getting things done will be almost impossible since everyone would be confused on what to do, not only that, but the ponies act childish and naive, appear to be easily manipulated and think there is only good, anyone could manipulate them and enslave them just by saying good things to them and befriending them, speaking of that. Number three, everyone befriends everyone, a flaw that is a no brainer, that also adds to my naive statement, do you befriend everyone you see? No? Oh, because your new friend could easily be a serial killer or a terrorist, or something? Well that pretty much explains number three. Number four, the world the ponies live in is TOO utopian, what happens when they are manipulated and they loose their town? They won't know what to do, and this is because the ponies are SPOILED! Like I said, they are unintelligent, easily manipulated, and naive.  And those are my reasons on why I think the world that G3 exists in is extremely unrealistic!

 

PS: I guarantee If you replaced every person who works in the US government with the G3 ponies, America would die within days because they don't have the mental capacity to run a government, I guarantee they would sing songs all day instead of working on improving America and keeping the country afloat...

[TBD 17,254]

I wouldn't argue or bringing up this point since G3 is waaay beyond old to even come to discuss about gender equally. As a guy mlp collector I don't see the huge problem about not having males in G3...really. I don't.  I watch g3 in a mind of a child so that why its doesn't really bother me. All I know is I like my little pony since G1. No gender or sexes or even them being too carefree ever come to my mind as a child. I just likes the characters.

Edited November 2, 2016 by satrox

[Denim&Venöm 19,003]

Please, do tell us how you really feel about the show? 

 

Ever consider that perhaps it's not just Ponyville, but their whole planet is actually Utopian? If there was a chance at collapse, it would've happened before the ponies set up an entire 20th century looking town w/ functioning infrastructure. Befriending being a problem? Hey, a stranger is only a friend you haven't made yet. Peace tends to ensure more progress than war. 

 

They are maintaining a stable population somehow, as it would take multiple generations to advance to the levels of refined technology in the show. As to how? The Jurassic park route, where a female takes male traits in a single sex environment. Or the mass effect route? The ponies are like the Asari race.  

 

Yes there are more than 4 colors in a traditional rainbow. We even see traditional rainbows. But the 4 color rainbow they see is different, magical in nature and one that effects the land below. I'd consider that special circumstances. 

 

Frankly, the ponies are rather intelligent. Smart enough to plan celebrations, run a town, lead communities, solve conundrums, know right from wrong and act on self preservation. Their intelligence, and even their maturity, does rival that of humans. Certainly a heck of a lot smarter than the G1 ponies, who need a human pre-teen to guide them. 

 

 

I'd say if you don't like them, don't watch, but for some strange reason it sounds like you already have. Regardless, you're free to no longer watch the program nor associate with those of us that do enjoy the works of Generation 3. 

 

[Medievilfan17 9]

Well I prefer watching TV shows with the mind of an adult including G3, in a realistic scenario, Civilization in the G3 universe would crumble...

Also the G3 ponies are somewhat intelligent, but their childishness in my opinion reduces their intelligence. Who is smarter, a child who acts like a child, or an adult (most of the G3 cast) who acts like a child? (Nether is my answer BTW.) Also the things you mentioned are things ANYONE could do. Go play SimCity if you don't know what I mean. If the earth G3 takes place in is completely Utopian, what happens when a bad guy attacks Ponyville in a 100% Utopian world in a deceptive way? Since the ponies are used to good and only good, they would fall for it, they would be over taken by the villain, and all of the pink, purple, and color would become browns and grungy greens and yellows. Also I find it EXTREMELY unlikely that the ponies are technologically advanced and asexual in any aspects, they appear to be in the Middle Ages technology-wise and they clearly are predominantly female.

Edited November 2, 2016 by FuturisticEggThief

[Denim&Venöm 19,003]

Ah yes, children who make treks to the north pole, build roller coasters (there's strike 1 for your middle ages tech theory), make light bulbs ⁽²⁾ generate electricity ^(3), fashion roller blades ⁽⁴⁾, construct houses & gazebos, build bridges, erect castles, work stone masonry, fforge iron, build and operate hot air baloons⁽⁵⁾ , run business, bake full sized confections, make glass for windows, perform landscaping, organize parades- wow these are some very talented children w/ the impeccable discipline and skill to perform all those adult functions. 

 

And 'When a bad guy attacks...' you might as well have said that they'd be screwed if they were struck by a gamma ray burst. Yes, they would be. They're not the cast of G4 capable of combating hellspawn. That's been made abundantly clear.  However, we don not how they would react, as they have not been confronted by an antagonist of really any kind. But they do know how to be wary, uncertain and distrusting. As was demonstrated in the 3rd episode/OVA. Pegasai and Earth Pony races of that show didn't trust each other initially. 

 

But it's not that kind of show. Not every program needs an antagonist. Not every show needs to reflect the darkness and misery we see when we turn on the news. Not all characters need to be militant warriors. It's a show that explores some of the nicer moments everyday life can bring.

 

Besides, the characters on a lot of other shows would be screwed 'when a bad guy attacks.'  

[The MegaBrony 219]

Besides, the characters on a lot of other shows would be screwed 'when a bad guy attacks.'  

Let's face it, not everyone has to be another Luke Skywalker, Power Ranger, or even an Avenger.

[Medievilfan17 9]

I went through a bunch of G3 episodes, scanning for anything that proves my statement and I guess I fell into the G3 is completely flawed stereotype. Yes electricity is commonplace, the ponies are semi-intelligent (No one noticed the candy cane was missing which is stupid, thats like no one in New York City noticing the Statue of Liberty's head was missing.), and other stuff (I didn't find any DNA modification technology anywhere though.) I formed a new theory on how G3's universe works: The architecture is medieval (Which led me to think their tech was also medieval.) Their tech is limited in a LOT of respects expect for the basic stuff a house has (A modern kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and living room without TV) and that's it for the most part. Culture in general is completely Utopian and heaven-like. Yes the ponies aren't just happy objects that sing all day long, but have emotions other than happiness and stuff like that. We can assume that new ponies are born through asexual reproduction but there is no evidence to support this other than 'No guys'. The 4 colored rainbow might just be what their eyes are capable of seeing. They also probably have magic that heats the land up (the way Minty gets to the North Pole is depicted as a short trip, therefore that means without magic or some distant future technology Ponyville would freeze over (Kinda reminds me of the Crystal Empire with the Crystal Heart)). In fact war seems to be an alien concept as war is never mentioned anywhere, only peace exists in this alternate Equestria (I like to think the land where the G3 ponies reside is an parallel universe version of Equestria.) Add anything you want to the list, as i skimmed through G3 so I probably missed some stuff!

I did some calculations and I came to the conclusion that Ponyville in the G3 universe is approximately 1/2 of a mile away from the north pole, so there is definitely something happening here that is ether some serious magic or some post 2500s technology going on.

Edited November 3, 2016 by FuturisticEggThief

[Denim&Venöm 19,003]

@@FuturisticEggThief,

 

It is a rather underestimated series.  More intelligent characters than Gen 1. Better morals with more likable characters that make more use of the fantasy setting, (heck, actually use a fantasy setting) than Gen 2. No it doesn't reinvent the wheel and it's a lot of fluff and saccharine sweetness. But it isn't objectively a bad show. 

 

Hell, I did a presentation on why G3 isn't all that bad. 

 

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zXghKA5FWCf4cLdoLRIYhs593zEW0J8P8YpGp23jBbY/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=60000&slide=id.p3

 

As for the issue of reproduction, I already countered that in my post. 

[Medievilfan17 9]

@@FuturisticEggThief,

 

It is a rather underestimated series.  More intelligent characters than Gen 1. Better morals with more likable characters that make more use of the fantasy setting, (heck, actually use a fantasy setting) than Gen 2. No it doesn't reinvent the wheel and it's a lot of fluff and saccharine sweetness. But it isn't objectively a bad show. 

 

Hell, I did a presentation on why G3 isn't all that bad. 

 

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zXghKA5FWCf4cLdoLRIYhs593zEW0J8P8YpGp23jBbY/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=60000&slide=id.p3

 

As for the issue of reproduction, I already countered that in my post. 

By 'fear of clouds' don't you mean Nephophobia? Other then that, pretty cool!

Edited November 3, 2016 by FuturisticEggThief

[ManaMinori 4,145]

There's a male pony in the crowd scene of Minty Christmas, I think, wearing a propeller hat

 

So that debunks your asexual dystopia theory

[Medievilfan17 9]

There's a male pony in the crowd scene of Minty Christmas, I think, wearing a propeller hat

 

So that debunks your asexual dystopia theory

Is he mentioned as a guy? He could just be a masculine female! 

There's a male pony in the crowd scene of Minty Christmas, I think, wearing a propeller hat

 

So that debunks your asexual dystopia theory

Also please double check, as I watched the crowd scene, and there was no guy with a propeller hat, if there was, please post an image pointing him out.

Edited November 3, 2016 by FuturisticEggThief

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

G3 was then and I'm glad that it's over. MLP was literally dying during G3. Of course this was a dystopia. It was one grand illusion of perfection. And don't forget the horrid Princess Promenode where one of the ponies finds a flower that makes her a princess and she becomes sad she rules over her friends, so she decides to make them princesses. Can't live like that...

[EmeraldStar04 250]

Dystopia or not, it's better than the world of MLP Tales.

[Tropico 226]

I laughed reading OP's first post xD I love it.

I didnt thought that their world is dystopian but I understand his point. If someone attacks they will be like lemmings xD so lost