alternative reality vs reality

[TBD 17,274]

After watching the Movie " A beautiful mind." It has made me think about to what exceed do we even know or even sure what  we know (logics and facts) is actually true?  John nash is a mathematician professor at Princeton who suffer a illness, schizophrenia. Without taking medicine he was able to channel his mind to ignore these hallucination but still can see them.

 

People who sees or experiences alternate reality such as ghosts, miracles, or any sort of beyond reality itself. Something some people couldn't see or experience themselves. We don't called them crazy, we call these people psychics or saints. 

 

Now that was similar to  people who suffer schizophrenia been going though, yet they were put under a title 'crazy' or 'unwell'

 

what do these people with 'disease' and psychics have in common? They both are able to see something others can't beyond reality itself. Do we even know  if this an hallucinations or it just an alternative reality? So what exceed we would call a person "crazy' when they see the world and reality differently? Are they really though? People come up with category for those who are different from the norms.  Those whose minds  alternate  differently  from the norms. yes Schizo is caused due to genetic deficient, what if it turn on part of the brain.Since people are indeed use half of % of it. Like how part of our genetics is turn off to pervert us to grow wings or tails.isn't this what it is? or something else? 

 

i come to think this way because I was raise as  catholic and I believe in other reality like jesus, god and such. I remember when I was small, every night I would see light shining down on me, it was bright, just enough I can see my own hands in a dark room. Of course though my minds was filtered and I now no longer sees the light when i got older. I know I'm not imagine thing because how can i forgot something that happen every night?

 

So to wrap it up, do we really know what is true? what is logics and facts? Sure we can do math and science but there is more then just that. Is it logical  to call those who are ills and who can see alternative reality  while other cannot? It doesn't make a person 'crazy'  or ill, so why do we have the 'right' to say they are?just because their minds arent something that a norms should have? To what exceed, do  we really  know if it a hallucination or can it be something more?

 

I know that i probably do not have the place to say this, but I just want to bring in an awareness.  I know for sure, that we are not alone in this world, and that our reality is not the only truth in this world.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Satrox

[Zyrael 1,473]

schizophrenia doesn't actually create hallucinations per se, people with schizophrenia hear voices they associate with specific identities. In the film "a beautiful mind" these "characters" were manifested as actual people, rather than voices. Call that artistic license. 

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schizophrenia doesn't actually create hallucinations per se, people with schizophrenia hear voices they associate with specific identities. In the film "a beautiful mind" these "characters" were manifested as actual people, rather than voices. Call that artistic license. 

That is true, then that again lead to what if these voices are actually just the same as imagery? you don't have to answer that, because even i don't have answer for that as well. Thus do really know if the person is actually just "hearing thing" or do they really hear something outside our reality world?  we cant just called them sick if we are not sure, right? people always applied facts and logics to put people who is outside the norms just because their mind alter differently. 

Edited December 12, 2016 by Satrox

[Zyrael 1,473]

That is true, but what if these voices are actually just the same as imagery? you don't have to answer that, because even i don't have answer for that as well. Thus do really know if the person is actually just "hearing thing" or do they really hear something outside our reality world?  we cant just called them sick if we are not sure, right? people always applied facts and logics to put people who is outside the norms just because their mind alter differently. 

 

Odds are, they aren't hearing something outside of our reality world. We apply logics to things because it's how we distinguish between truth and fiction. Schizophrenia is caused typically by faulty genetics and like many genetic disorders, small hiccups in human DNA. 

 

This thread's "question" is pretty esoteric, but I'm assuming you're asking if there are other "realities" beyond our own physical world. My opinion is no, there are not. But, as with even our most certain certainties, this all boils down to percentages and odds. Odds are, there isn't another "reality" we can interact with. But it's not impossible either-  this is typically the domain of religion since it has no real basis in practical science. 

[They call me Loyalty 1,954]

Reality is subjective to one's perception, and given the human range is rather limited, my senses don't determine my notion of truth.

Truth is a clear path which is unconditional to one's reality. The creation of a possibility within one's interpretation thereof.

And being reality subject to my perception, I'm rather careful with labels. Seeing all ways as a possibility instead.

It's my choise to create truth, out of my particular peception of this reality, unconditional to one's notion.

Knowing alternative and persistent reality, are but one singularity out of the variable possibility.

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Odds are, they aren't hearing something outside of our reality world. We apply logics to things because it's how we distinguish between truth and fiction. Schizophrenia is caused typically by faulty genetics and like many genetic disorders, small hiccups in human DNA. 

 

This thread's "question" is pretty esoteric, but I'm assuming you're asking if there are other "realities" beyond our own physical world. My opinion is no, there are not. But, as with even our most certain certainties, this all boils down to percentages and odds. Odds are, there isn't another "reality" we can interact with. But it's not impossible either-  this is typically the domain of religion since it has no real basis in practical science. 

Agreed, I mean yes it not possible to be off somewhere in a different dimension but like you say that would  lead  on to some religions beliefs. But it wont hurt to say  'to boldly go where no man has gone before."  There are still much to learn from science itself that may lead us to something more extracular.

 

Reality is subjective to one's perception, and given the human range is rather limited, my senses don't determine my notion of truth.

 

Truth is a clear path which is unconditional to one's reality. The creation of a possibility within one's interpretation thereof.

 

And being reality subject to my perception, I'm rather careful with labels. Seeing all ways as a possibility instead.

 

It's my choise to create truth, out of my particular peception of this reality, unconditional to one's notion.

 

Knowing alternative and persistent reality, are but one singularity out of the variable possibility.

I'm with you on that, reality to me is quite infinite and it can be shaped in what anyways, i guess it kinda hard to say one's is wrong or right. but science can help it back it up to some exceed. 

Edited December 12, 2016 by Satrox

[EpicEnergy 23,247]

I believe there is another reality - the spiritual world in which there are spiritual beings (angels and demons) that we cannot see.

[Splashee 28,599]

The most common conception is that there is one reality. That is usually the truth. There are people who things 5G causes Corona, and they will believe there are all kinds of realities. I am not one of those.

[Evil Pink One 13,552]

I really dont care about the alternative reality, because it got nothing to do with me, but give me regret or joy, what's important is the present cuZ thats whats happening now so what if my alternate is richer than me? It aint gonna make me rich now. Wo what if my alternative life didnt jump off that roof? My legs are broken now...

[Pentium100 2,299]

Unless there is some kind of proof for that I will consider the people who claim see "alternative reality" either crazy (yes, there are various mental defects that can make you see what is not there, but I think "crazy" covers them all), on drugs or just scammers. 

Which is why if I actually saw what looked like an MLP-pony in real life I would seriously start questioning my sanity and the food that I ate recently. I sometimes think of how in that case I could reasonably prove that something is actually real without giving myself away as crazy if it isn't real. 

Without any proof it is too easy to believe anything, after all, I do not have proof, you do not have proof, so which one of us is right? 

Also, if there are alternate realities (like a universe where the USSR did not collapse, that sort of thing), it does not really matter unless there is some way to travel between them etc, otherwise the proof of that is just a curiosity.

[Splashee 28,599]

1 hour ago, Pentium100 said:

Which is why if I actually saw what looked like an MLP-pony in real life I would seriously start questioning my sanity and the food that I ate recently. I sometimes think of how in that case I could reasonably prove that something is actually real without giving myself away as crazy if it isn't real

There must be a mathematical formulae for detecting insanity when combined with MLP. At least, one must check if Hasbro has taken over the world somehow through brain control.

[Stone Cold Steve Jobs 22,507]

What is reality though?