CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Just now, Alexshy said: Even without, mine lief. Dependeth on motivation, in the earnest. That varies too, my princess, although I suspect largely for plot convenience. There is a lot to suggest her wingpower may be inhibited by her confidence problems, but would be otherwise that of a normal pegasus pony - even back when she very first met Twilight, she was able to bowl her out of the way simply by rushing to see a baby dragon, and later in the same season (even before her wingpower training regime) she was able to extend her wingpower onto a fully laiden cart of frogs (plus saddlebags and a basket) without visible effort. I don't feel facing her with the human-world clouds (which, like the Crystal Empire clouds, are much wilder than equestrian ones) would be a good idea. ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexshy 14,711 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 I still have much more confidence in her abilities. The key point she must have it likewise to... "unlock" those abilities. Working Ponies Coffee Club | Thine truly on FimFiction | Ask Luna a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alexshy said: I still have much more confidence in her abilities. The key point she must have it likewise to... "unlock" those abilities. We will see. It is repeatedly demonstrated that Flutters' inner strength and power is equal to the rest of the (massively OP) mane 6; this is mitigated by her shy personality and Element. As we can see with the Iron Will incident and to a lesser extent the more recent Manehatten one, an assertive, overconfident Flutters is NOT the lovable pone we enjoy the company of... And I don't know what the effect of her being in conflict with her Element would be, but it can't possibly end well. 1 ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexshy 14,711 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Who said, her powers must be conflicting with her Element? SHOW ME THAT FLAT-MINDED PONY! Working Ponies Coffee Club | Thine truly on FimFiction | Ask Luna a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Alexshy said: Who said, her powers must be conflicting with her Element? SHOW ME THAT FLAT-MINDED PONY! I didn't - I said the personality shifts that come with an overconfident Flutters conflict with her Element - "New Fluttershy" and her "Manehatten shop pony" personas were anything but kind, and the final confrontation from that episode, where she isn't playing a role... hmm. ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexshy 14,711 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CoffeeHoof said: I didn't - I said the personality shifts that come with an overconfident Flutters conflict with her Element - "New Fluttershy" and her "Manehatten shop pony" personas were anything but kind, and the final confrontation from that episode, where she isn't playing a role... hmm. The other cases, whither she was showing her true powers, helping her friends in need or/and danger were arrant within her Element, lief. That is a simple lesson, not even a letter to mine dearest sister necessary - one shan't play an unfitting role to succeed. Edited April 21, 2018 by Alexshy 1 Working Ponies Coffee Club | Thine truly on FimFiction | Ask Luna a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Spoiler Don'i mind me... I'm just reading some heated Fluttershy debates... 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterstep 47,324 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 I do feel sorry for Fluttershy. She has so many flaws and each of them mainly affect her, as opposed to others (like Pinkie's and Rainbow's flaws). She's also rarely appreciated for her kind acts and what it takes for her to overcome fears that other ponies think nothing of. @Recherche *boop* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Flutterstep said: @Recherche *boop* 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Alexshy said: The other cases, whither she was showing her true powers, helping her friends in need or/and danger were arrant within her Element, lief. That is a simple lesson, not even a letter to mine dearest sister necessary - one shan't play an unfitting role to succeed. Indeed so. I do feel in many cases the Element each pone embodies becomes a power multiplier when the pone is acting within her alignment - just as Dashie was able to unlock her rainboom when she acted to save Rarity, Fluttershy is able to assert astounding strength when acting in support or defense of her friends - not only her Stare, but when she more than doubled her Wingpower to assist Dashie in the water transfer. To use the phrase from EqG - when she is "showing the truest part of herself". 7 minutes ago, Recherche said: Reveal hidden contents Don'i mind me... I'm just reading some heated Fluttershy debates... *Passes @recherche the popcorn 2 ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Spoiler 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexshy 14,711 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, CoffeeHoof said: Indeed so. I do feel in many cases the Element each pone embodies becomes a power multiplier when the pone is acting within her alignment - just as Dashie was able to unlock her rainboom when she acted to save Rarity, Fluttershy is able to assert astounding strength when acting in support or defense of her friends - not only her Stare, but when she more than doubled her Wingpower to assist Dashie in the water transfer. To use the phrase from EqG - when she is "showing the truest part of herself". The truth hath been spoken! Thou receive 200 Flutterpoints! *virtual thumbs up* 2 Working Ponies Coffee Club | Thine truly on FimFiction | Ask Luna a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterstep 47,324 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 *Eats Flutterpoints* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rising Dusk 28,823 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flutterstep said: *Eats Flutterpoints* Make sure to wash those down well. Kindness overload. Edited April 21, 2018 by Rising Dusk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 @Rising Dusk Ah, but with what? You wouldn't want to wash it down with wine, and then get an upset stomach! 2 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Just now, Recherche said: @Rising Dusk Ah, but with what? You wouldn't want to wash it down with wine, and then get an upset stomach! But surely a sufficiently tart wine would compliment the sweetness of the Flutterpoints? 2 ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Perhaps so, but no wine is created equal! 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Just now, Recherche said: Perhaps so, but no wine is created equal! Ah well, there I will defer to your expertise my dear - while I have strong opinions on tea and whiskey (and coffee, obviously) I really have no skill in the selection of wines 2 ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Don't worry, neither do I; all I know is that some wine is much better than others! 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage 24,777 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 I would say Flutterpoints would go well with a rich dark coffee. Too sweet for wine. 3 “Remember that when you leave this earth, you can take with you nothing you have received--only what you have given.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterstep 47,324 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 I've had too many, but they are so nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypherHoof 26,483 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mirage said: I would say Flutterpoints would go well with a rich dark coffee. Too sweet for wine. Perhaps an espresso shot, drawn from a coffee with deep chocolate notes, such as the Columbian? 2 1 ᚾᛖᚹ ᛚᚢᚾᚨ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚴ - ᚦᛖ ᚠᚢᚾ ᚺᚨᚦ ᛒᛖᛖᚾ ᛞᛟᚢᛒᛚᛖᛞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Recherche 29,982 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 (edited) @Flutterstep How much do they cost, though? @CoffeeHoof I appreciate that you didn't type "expresso." Nobody drinks trains. Edited April 21, 2018 by Recherche 1 ❆~ 𝓐𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻 𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼 ~❆ 𝓕𝓲𝓿𝓮 𝓨𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰: 𝓜𝔂 𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼𝓱𝓲𝓹 𝓲𝓼 𝓜𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓬 𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage 24,777 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Flutterstep said: I've had too many, but they are so nice. You can never have too many! 2 “Remember that when you leave this earth, you can take with you nothing you have received--only what you have given.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterstep 47,324 April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 @Recherche I'm not sure. I kinda helped myself to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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