Is Hasbro willing to do what Disney isn't?

[ManaMinori 4,145]

Disney may be accumulating more property through mergers and expanding their business, but they seem to be stagnating on one thing- original ideas. They've played in the field of remakes and  reboots, especially through live action, and CGI, and have no intention of stopping. Hasbro, on the other hand could capitalize on what Disney (and other studios) aren't. More 2D animation, original ideas, and most importantly, breaking the stereotype that animation isn't just for children. With the leaks of g5 pointing to a darker, more mature-theme for MLP to attract older audiences, I sincerely hope that this means weightier topics that are typically  associated with adults- moral grey areas, philosophical dissections and debates and the like (more Twilight nerds), rather than an increase of "adult blood, gore, and sex".

 

Do you think Hasbro is willing to do these things when other companies aren't- fulfilling the need for classic 2D animation, proving that animation isn't just for kids, implementing more original ideas in an age of sequels and reboots?

[Arkadios 91]

IMO, the large volume of anime already combats the stereotype of 2D animation, e.g. this: 

 

Also, IMO, there are many things already in MLP that one doesn’t find in your typical kids’ show, although the fact that the franchise is called My Little Pony deters most from looking.

As for original ideas, the fact that there will be a G5 in the first place proves that Hasbro isn’t willing to come up with original ideas.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Arkadios

[Will Guide 21,362]

Disney has been breaking the Animation is only for kids stereotype for decades.

There's this little quote to describe the Periphery Demographic that both Disney and MLP have in common.

"You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."

— Walt Disney on the topic

 

 

Much like with MLP now, Disney still manages to reach a wide audience, even a grown up audience with its films even today.

Then There's this trope on its YMMV page:

• What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: Most people think of violence as not kid-friendly, yet the vast majority of people (including Disney's marketing) consider these to be family or kids' films. Most of these films have a villain who tries to commit murder (and succeeds in the case of The Lion King) and ends up dead himself/herself by the end of the film.

Back on a more focused topic about Disney not doing original ideas anymore:

Completely 100% original ideas are actually impossible as EVERY story has to use some already used plot point and tropes. There's a reason why the tropes, seven basic plots and the Tropeless Tale exists. The latter of which had this to say: 

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You're sick of all of those Cliché Storm, Troperrific, and Trope Overdosed stories. It's getting on your nerves. Why doesn't anybody do anything original? Something new enough not to get the label of "trope" stamped on them?.......

(My paraphrase here) You go and try to write a story without any tropes or used cliches, only to discover it's impossible, but it's okay to reuse some plot points.

Due to the impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and use them in a new way.

Disney is still doing heart-filled stuff. Are you ignoring the live actions films like Christopher Robin and the upcoming Mary Poppins Returns? Disney is still using 2D Animation. What do you call the animation they're using in their TV shows like Milo Murphy's Law, Ducktales, and Tangled: The Series. While it does involve using a computer, they're still drawing the character in a 2D style. It's doesn't matter the tool, whether it's computer or pen and ink, what's important is the story and characters.

Also their live-action remakes films don't really replaced the animated film since they still sell them and their animated characters are still selling on their merchandise instead of the live action versions being in the merchandise. No different than what Hasbro or any other business like them does. They have to keep making money to pay all their employees and pay for the products they make. Hasbro and Disney are still a company that needs make a profit to STAY in Business.

These are the only points I'm going to make in this topic. Because quite frankly I'm getting tired of seeing these kinds of topics that basically say Disney has lost its way or has gotten too greedy. And also original ideas can be hard to find and make without being accused of ripping off someone else.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Will Guide
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[Black Sabbath 2,486]

9 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

most importantly, breaking the stereotype that animation isn't just for children

Is this even a stereotype anymore? I mean, I can mention like a dozen animated shows and movies that aren't for children of the top of my head (Elfen lied for example). And even if that were the case, what can my little pony of all shows do to break this stereotype that none of the other shows did?

[BornAgainBrony 2,398]

On 12/2/2018 at 8:34 AM, Sun Wukong said:

Is this even a stereotype anymore? I mean, I can mention like a dozen animated shows and movies that aren't for children of the top of my head (Elfen lied for example). And even if that were the case, what can my little pony of all shows do to break this stereotype that none of the other shows did?

It is. At least in the West. The only country in the world that hasn't adopted Metric is also the only country in the world for a bunch of seemingly simple concepts that should have been abandoned by now. Just this year some girl half my age (I'm 40) said, "You realize you're grown men, right?" to three Bronies in the break room.

Also, 2D animation isn't dead. Far from it. It's just that the paintbrush has been traded for a stylus and tweeners got replaced by automation.

[EpicEnergy 23,222]

Hasbro would probably stick to whatever gives them the most money.