dar tunsh 446 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 (edited) To be honest, I don't see this type of behavior anywhere except youtube comments. And that's... well, that's youtube. Irrational behavior and hyperbole is the standard over there. And it's disgusting to see arguments such as you've described go on there. I'd LOVE to see a psychological study on why many youtube commenters, for all outward appearances, seem to be the dumbest bolts this planet has to offer. I swear, the moment most people begin to type a comment into youtube, their IQ drops like Scootaloo trying to fly. What he said. I haven't seen it on dA (maybe I'm not looking in the right places). As for the forums, I may have seen one or two status updates about haters. I can't quite recall what was said about it all, but a few of them might have simply been members joking that they have "evil" friends. I know I have friends who hate the show, and I respect there opinion. Doesn't mean I don't get a good laugh when I bring up something pony-related just to get a rise out of him (trust me, I highly doubt he'll ever like the show). As for attacking people who don't like or hate the show, I won't do that. I will see the casual YouTube flame-war, or a channel devoted entirely to hating bronies. I just simply ignore them. I mean, what's the point in fighting about it anyway? No opinions will change and it's a waste of everyone's time. I guess that last sentence is what I'm mainly trying to say. Unless you like fighting, then I don't even see the point. TL;DR - Fighting over the Internet doesn't change opinions most of the time, unless you like fighting, it's a waste. Why is it when I make anger rant threads, everyone always agrees with me? xD I dunno, I thought Pencil there made a few good points that would conflict some of what you said. Edited July 13, 2012 by Draw Toonz WHY DID THIS BREAK OH LUNA NOW I HAVE TO FIX IT DEAR CELESTIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullbuster 1,906 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 Why is it when I make anger rant threads, everyone always agrees with me? xD Would you like if I said something that went against what you said? My Let's Play channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy14-AEEHdfj5QQAlYtB1_A Need a guest Rapper on a song? talk to me!: http://mlpforums.com/topic/103097-guest-rapper-for-you/ NEW SONG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finesthour 7,287 July 13, 2012 Author Share July 13, 2012 Would you like if I said something that went against what you said? Yes, because I want something to talk about. Tell me, what are you against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sᴜᴍᴍoɴᴇᴅ 55 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 Yes, because I want something to talk about. Tell me, what are you against? This will result in the thread being off topic. Try not to do that. From the depths We are summoned To consume ♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finesthour 7,287 July 13, 2012 Author Share July 13, 2012 This will result in the thread being off topic. Try not to do that. He said he is against something in it. How is that off topic, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullbuster 1,906 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 Yes, because I want something to talk about. Tell me, what are you against? Ok, let me try to present a counter-argument/reason for you *ahem* As you asked earlier, why do people use insults to defend something, its because some people are not smart enough to provide long winded arguments and statements to defend their point, a lot of people use offense as a way of defense, and some times they are angered by the fact that they can't make such long winded arguments to defend their point, My Let's Play channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy14-AEEHdfj5QQAlYtB1_A Need a guest Rapper on a song? talk to me!: http://mlpforums.com/topic/103097-guest-rapper-for-you/ NEW SONG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finesthour 7,287 July 13, 2012 Author Share July 13, 2012 Ok, let me try to present a counter-argument/reason for you *ahem* As you asked earlier, why do people use insults to defend something, its because some people are not smart enough to provide long winded arguments and statements to defend their point, a lot of people use offense as a way of defense, and some times they are angered by the fact that they can't make such long winded arguments to defend their point, So how exactly is that going against me? I said that it was idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullbuster 1,906 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 So how exactly is that going against me? I said that it was idiotic. I explained why people do it And listen, I don't have much experience in being in intelligent arguments, all the people around i go to school with are incomptant idiots, but this is off topic And we shouldn't get mad at them for using those kinds of things to defend their point My Let's Play channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy14-AEEHdfj5QQAlYtB1_A Need a guest Rapper on a song? talk to me!: http://mlpforums.com/topic/103097-guest-rapper-for-you/ NEW SONG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyger 213 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 I totally agree man. Sober or not, I can read anything and agree with everything. It's NUTS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8FpigqfcvlM#t=411s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomuraBL 851 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 You want to know why I defend this fandom? Because Anti bronies aren't normal haters. A normal hater just calls something gay then leaves. These haters want us dead. These haters hate us for an entirely different reason. These haters hate us, because they think we are horrible people. A surprising amount actually don't care about us watching the show they just think we are jerks. Hence Antibronies and not anti ponies. I honestly don't care if someone insults ponies. Why should I? Its their opinion. But insulting bronies on the other hand, I'm sorry but I'm defending. You want to know what I dislike? How bronies is an insult to anyone who isn't one. If someone ask a famous guy on the internet if they are a brony you know what they say? "Why would that guy ever be as horrible as a brony?" or "He too good to be a brony." If you need me to tell you more just ask me. Anyway, I hate Anti bronies. Not Anti ponies. I have no problem with anyone hating the show, but the people I will defend. (Unless its a comment like U r gay. They have no hope in the first place. I'm talking about the people who consider us assholes.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finesthour 7,287 July 13, 2012 Author Share July 13, 2012 So shoving it down another assholes throat makes you a better person? Leave the people alone. They don't want anything to do with the show. If they want to waste their lives hating, LET THEM. What can they possibly do to us but call us names, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfTheNorthe 412 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 (edited) Many people seem to love being offended, that's why. (edited for accuracy) Edited July 13, 2012 by SonOfTheNorthe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finesthour 7,287 July 13, 2012 Author Share July 13, 2012 America's national pastime is being offended, that's why. This isn't only in America, and I would appreciate if this did not turn into an American bash thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouth 496 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 Where did "love and tolerate" go, my friends?Nowhere I hope, it still is around.I generally agree with your thoughts, and I think that some people are taking the show a bit too much seriously. Even if the act of defending the show could seem right, the outcomes should be considered as well, 'cos sometimes it is just now worth it. What some bronies need to realize is that there is no point in fighting haters. I say, love and tolerate everybody, even the haters. Where's the point of fighting anyway ? If someone keeps saying that the show is awful and terrible, it is their legitimate opinion. I'd ask him politely if they watched some eps, if no, I'd suggest them to watch few and then let them be. If you argue with them using heavy arsenal of F-bombs, you won't help anything :/ All you'll cause them to do is to leave with a stereotype that all the bronies are arguing idiots. If someone is immature enough to keep spreading untrue things about fandom (,,All bronies are gay pedos" kind of stuff) then chance of making him stop by arguing or even mature talking are equal/lesser than zero. Those are the two reasons when I could see some motivation to argue, and both of them bring nothing good if you try to solve them with arguing. If you have some other situation when you think it is good to argue with anti-brony/hater, quote me and bring them up please. Splendid siggy by Chaotic Dischord, awesome avatar by Suntouched Coco!Ask me anything you want ! You'll make me happy and (most likely) get an answer !Omnia vincit Amor. When the world around you turns gray, stop, and think about rainbows.-->(> How would you describe me ? <(<-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo dash 79 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 cuz were becomeing a cult if someone gave to show a chance and did not like it i have no problem made by the awesome cloud chaser Please don’t turn the forums into Nazi Germany in an effort to keep the forums clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Fox 5,950 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 (edited) Putting a line in between each sentence of your post is a bit excessive, I feel. I acknowledge that you feel strongly about it and would guess you did that for emphasis, but it does make it hard to read. As for the issue you raised, it's unavoidable. There are people who will attack anyone who doesn't share their opinion on any particular issue. When a person like that becomes a brony, it doesn't change that about them. (In some cases it might, but the vast majority simply won't). Thank you once more, human nature. Best to just ignore such people, since they won't go away. Viva la revolution! Edited July 13, 2012 by Full Spectrum Happy minion of The Fabulous One! Signature by Midnightive Check out my blog! https://mlpforums.com/blog/1083-sunny-side-den/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyEcho 1,610 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 (iv been on this damn thread for 15 minuts looking for the right thing to type) well this kind of rabid devotion is nothing new its just another form of fanboy(ism) or whatever the scientific term is and peopel trying to defend what they like is nothing special because everyone has a topic of discussion they will defend alot more then they would with another. my issue is when bronies lash out at other bronie because they have a different opinion on a mlp topic and will likly use the word "true brony". And whats worse is the they will later shift to being misunderstood and act like there the injured party in all this. I think we all need to remember that were all just fans of a kids show not some cultural revolution. my DA http://heavyecho.deviantart.com/ check my stuff out the Anime Club http://mlpforums.com/topic/48196-the-anime-club/ plz join us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttermedic 86 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 It appears as if the people who have been receiving the hate, are becoming the haters. What I usually do when someone posts on a youtube video 'WHO THE %^&$ WATCHES THIS?' I just tell them simply, it's a good show mainly its got good animations, voiceovers, good plot and story design, and not to mention personalities, it's all much better than the mumbo jumbo Hollywood throws at us today. For those who can't think like how the rest of us are thinking in the civilized way, then consider this: 'Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' Maybe you'll understand why they hate the show so much, then tell them 'Hey, it's no biggy, we're not forcing you to be a brony, if you don't like the show, k it's fine. But saying stuff like on that post just gets EVERYONE mad, and I don't people like to be mad a lot.' If haters and Bronies can't settle this debate then it'll be all out internet war, hacks versus firewalls, might even turn into something bigger, not saying it is but yo get the point. This is like the 'Over a Barrel' episode, just with the internet. Haters: 'We want our internet back to the way it used to be, with no pony pictures 24/7! Bronies: "We've worked hard in setting up our forums and keeping the fandom going, and we're staying! For those who haven't seen the episode, please watch it, because then you'll understand about the ending. But still, this entire Brony vs Hater debate is gonna turn out worse than the Derpy debate, and everyone knows it's true, unless WE not THEM stop acting like ignorant little dictator jerks and get along with it, haters are usually surprised when they want to receive hate messages, they receive the exact opposite. So please, let's try to stop this debate once and for all! "If you can't make the moon interesting, try setting it on fire"- Void Chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discovery Dream 592 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 Once upon a time, bronies decided to "love and tolerate". Except they kind of failed, because they were only human. So then Bluebell said, "screw it", and disregarded the phrase forever. Guys, we're just people. We make mistakes and do stupid things. If someone feels the need to defend, that's natural. We shouldn't berate others for doing something on impulse. no rest for the wizardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaguar 1,403 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 (edited) There was a thread made by a certain someone having to do with Christians and their thought on MLP. Which is this http://mlpforums.com...ms-counterpart/ We highly suggest that you read this topic and see what you think about it. Our Queen was very sad, and disappointed in the way the community acted in this manner. Only a select few acted so well in this thread and we are very happy to see that. I'd be laughing at that forum's admin, if it weren't locked, not because he's hating on MLP, but because he's a immature, possibly-brain-damaged, raging tool, the fact that he hates MLP and it's fandom is irellevant. If a brony made a MLP site to hate on haters and acted in the same childish manner I'd be laughing at said brony as well. The fact that he made a site for the sake of hating on a group of people is pretty sad, you gotta admit. Edited July 13, 2012 by Pegasus25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sᴜᴍᴍoɴᴇᴅ 55 July 13, 2012 Share July 13, 2012 I'd be laughing at that forum's admin, if it weren't locked, not because he's hating on MLP, but because he's a immature, possibly-brain-damaged, raging tool, the fact that he hates MLP and it's fandom is irellevant. If a brony made a MLP site to hate on haters and acted in the same childish manner I'd be laughing at said brony as well. The fact that he made a site for the sake of hating on a group of people is pretty sad, you gotta admit. We shouldn't indulge of their existence. From the depths We are summoned To consume ♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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