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[Akari of Duskshire 581]

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Frostwolves.  For the same reasons sans me being nordic, plus they're the closest to their wolves and wolves are totally awesome.  If not the Frostwolves, then probably the Shadowmoon.  Their pre-void connection to the stars make them almost druidic in my eyes and I find that rather unique. 

Edited September 7, 2015 by Akari of Duskshire

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I like the Orcs as Thrall sort of refounded them. The Horde as one clan, one family. If I had to pick, I would pick the line of Hellscream as it was Grom that truly redeemed the Orcs with his sacrifice. (Thanks for making your father's noblest act mean nothing Garrosh!)

[Mr F 1,522]

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Wait, cowards?! They've fought the Burning Legion longer than life existed on Azeroth. What is cowardly about that?! 

 

The Draenei are my favorite race for many reasons. I admit their "superhero build" is part of that.

How many battle heroes did they have this expansion? Yrel? Maraad died a rather painful death and prophet velen... err  yeah. Half of the side quests was picking up toys for little girls after a few demons etc. And akama was hardly involved. The coolest warrior the alliance has ever seen, just not incuded at all. He could get his own expansion with his level of badass.  Truth to be said, the draenei are not my favorite race, but I feel WoD did them a bit of an unjustice.

The horde had a blind shaman, A beast that 1v40'ed the iron horde, rexxar beaing the manliest beast in warcraft lore and green jesus' dad and vol'jin being chill as usual. I mean, THAT IS COOL.

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I like the Orcs as Thrall sort of refounded them. The Horde as one clan, one family. If I had to pick, I would pick the line of Hellscream as it was Grom that truly redeemed the Orcs with his sacrifice. (Thanks for making your father's noblest act mean nothing Garrosh!)

The warsong were never noble as you described them but they were brave. Grom was not really a good guy, but his final moment made up for all of his less good deeds. Garrosh has his bad side from somewhere you know, he just did not learn before it was too late?

Edited September 7, 2015 by A Cat

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How many battle heroes did they have this expansion? Yrel? Maraad died a rather painful death and prophet velen... err  yeah. Half of the side quests was picking up toys for little girls after a few demons etc. And akama was hardly involved. The coolest warrior the alliance has ever seen, just not incuded at all. He could get his own expansion with his level of badass.  Truth to be said, the draenei are not my favorite race, but I feel WoD did them a bit of an unjustice.

The horde had a blind shaman, A beast that 1v40'ed the iron horde, rexxar beaing the manliest beast in warcraft lore and green jesus' dad and vol'jin being chill as usual. I mean, THAT IS COOL.

The warsong were never noble as you described them but they were brave. Grom was not really a good guy, but his final moment made up for all of his less good deeds. Garrosh has his bad side from somewhere you know, he just did not learn before it was too late?

 

Oh so looking out for children is ignoble and cowardly act?

 

-Yrel goes from prisoner to Joan of Argus!

 

-Maraad, the face of the Draenei from the first time they were cinematically introduced mind you, was a lifelong hero and an atoner for letting his vengeance get in the way of his duty.

 

-Akama is not even formally related to the Alliance.

 

-Nobundo brought Shamanism to his people even though all but the Prophet himself sent him away.

 

Call them what you will, but the Draenei are NOT cowards!

 

 

The warsong were never noble as you described them but they were brave. Grom was not really a good guy, but his final moment made up for all of his less good deeds. Garrosh has his bad side from somewhere you know, he just did not learn before it was too late?

 

Not that the Warsong were perfect, just that we were picking our favorite Orc clans and I didn't want to be the third to say the Frostwolf because that gave rise to Thrall. So the Warsong more for who they became as part of Thrall's Horde than their actual history. 

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

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I do indeed love the draenei and their rather eventful history of fighting Legion wherever they went.  I guess most of my beef is with Maraad.  I know his whole backstory, but I sort of wish they showed his struggle more and maybe not kill him off (or at least, save his death for a later time, like with Garrosh.  I felt the latter to be rather anti-climatic).  I could say the same for the Frostwolves as a whole.  I was expecting Thrall to come to terms with the fact that Durotan isn't all honor and the clan can still be as savage as the Iron Horde.

 

But perhaps, I'm expecting a video game that involves our input to go exactly like a book.  After all, there's more to WoW than just lore, just as there is more to it than gameplay.

 

With everything said, probably the moment I think tops everything else is the cinematic were Durotan and Yrel team up.  Orc with a crystal hammer and a draenei with an ancestral ax vs a warlord in searing armor?  Excellent show of teamwork!  If only the Horde and the Alliance could learn once and for all...

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I do indeed love the draenei and their rather eventful history of fighting Legion wherever they went.  I guess most of my beef is with Maraad.  I know his whole backstory, but I sort of wish they showed his struggle more and maybe not kill him off (or at least, save his death for a later time, like with Garrosh.  I felt the latter to be rather anti-climatic).  I could say the same for the Frostwolves as a whole.  I was expecting Thrall to come to terms with the fact that Durotan isn't all honor and the clan can still be as savage as the Iron Horde.

 

But perhaps, I'm expecting a video game that involves our input to go exactly like a book.  After all, there's more to WoW than just lore, just as there is more to it than gameplay.

 

With everything said, probably the moment I think tops everything else is the cinematic were Durotan and Yrel team up.  Orc with a crystal hammer and a draenei with an ancestral ax vs a warlord in searing armor?  Excellent show of teamwork!  If only the Horde and the Alliance could learn once and for all...

 

(Yeah, he did get gipped especially seeing as, as I said before, he's the face of the Draenei. Their most visible champion. Like Bolvar or Saurfang.)

 

Maybe they will. It's happened before, and it keeps happening in little moments and it's in those moments that the best of everyone is exemplified. I really do hope they put in an "ambassador system" or something. A token gameplay and narrative mechanic to try and mend the bonds between these erstwhile allies.

Edited September 7, 2015 by Steel Accord

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

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Oh that reminds me.  Did you put that little "Diplomacy Mode" idea up yet?  No need to rush if you haven't. 

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Ah, no, haven't gotten to it yet. Thank you for reminding me. 

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

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No problem. 

 

By the way, how do you think everyone within the class halls will behave with each other?  I could see the shamans and druids getting along just fine, but what about the humans and orcs of, say, the warrior hall?  Will it be teeth-clenched teamwork or will they be buddy-buddy?

[Mr F 1,522]

Oh so looking out for children is ignoble and cowardly act?

 

-Yrel goes from prisoner to Joan of Argus!

 

-Maraad, the face of the Draenei from the first time they were cinematically introduced mind you, was a lifelong hero and an atoner for letting his vengeance get in the way of his duty.

 

-Akama is not even formally related to the Alliance.

 

-Nobundo brought Shamanism to his people even though all but the Prophet himself sent him away.

Akama was a vindicator. But when the light left him he was separated from the rest. He had nothing to live for anymore and the same goes for Nobundo. And the unbroken WoD akama is alliance aligned in the game, so ye he is. The prophet is not really a warrior. He was their leader, this has nothing with bravery to do he also had a rather lame demise. I did not say they were cowards, just that WoD story made them injustice. Looking out for children is not cowardly, but it was overused in the questing experience. In BC there was soo much cool story for the draenei, but I don't get the same feel from dreanor as I got in outland.

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No problem. 

 

By the way, how do you think everyone within the class halls will behave with each other?  I could see the shamans and druids getting along just fine, but what about the humans and orcs of, say, the warrior hall?  Will it be teeth-clenched teamwork or will they be buddy-buddy?

I imagine the warrior hall to be more of a fight club ish thing. I mean, they will be at eachothers throats, but bound together by a common enemy.

Oh talking about orcs vs humans. Orcs > humans, because demonic steroids.

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I did not say they were cowards, just that WoD story made them injustice.

 

 

 

 

I have never seen a cool looking male draenai before now. (they usually look like gigantic cowards)

 

 

 

 

They make horrifying warriors most of the time, they just don't look serious or frightening.

 

 

Your words.

 

 

 

Looking out for children is not cowardly, but it was overused in the questing experience. In BC there was soo much cool story for the draenei, but I don't get the same feel from dreanor as I got in outland.

 

WoD was the Orc's story. The emphasis was on them. Grom Hellscream is emblazoned on the title. The Burning Crusade was the Draenei's story because that was what introduced them. Obviously the Draenei had to be there because it was an alternate timeline of their adopted home world, and they did feature prominently, even if you didn't like the specifics of their story development, it's not like they were a non-entity. 

 

 

No problem.    By the way, how do you think everyone within the class halls will behave with each other?  I could see the shamans and druids getting along just fine, but what about the humans and orcs of, say, the warrior hall?  Will it be teeth-clenched teamwork or will they be buddy-buddy?

 

The whole idea of the class orders though is that the individual heroes, that's us, are basically saying "screw the Alliance AND the Horde, if they can't work together to save the world, WE WILL!" So "like minded heroes" as in those with similar methods and ideals pool their skills, resources, and powers to face the Legion head on.

 

For the warriors in particular, I imagine they would recognize the simple commonality of a soldier's life. Even in the real world, soldiers of enemy nations, once the war is over have freely fraternized with the men they were previously fighting, from WWI to the Cold War. In this case, it's even more apparent because as I said, the whole idea is that they are purposefully forgoing their ties to the Alliance and Horde in favor of a "let's shut up and save the world" attitude.

[Mr F 1,522]

Your words.

 

 

WoD was the Orc's story. The emphasis was on them. Grom Hellscream is emblazoned on the title. The Burning Crusade was the Draenei's story because that was what introduced them. Obviously the Draenei had to be there because it was an alternate timeline of their adopted home world, and they did feature prominently, even if you didn't like the specifics of their story development, it's not like they were a non-entity. 

Wp, comparing what I said about looks to their story. Yes male draeneis generally look horrible (there is a reason they hadly exist outside of rp servers), however some of them have a cool story. Don't take my words outta setting please. I know its called WARLORDS OF DREANOR and that it would focus on orcs. But I just feel that the Draenei had soo much unused potential. Maybe I am just salty after not seeing any Akama action this expansion.

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

 

 

Orcs > humans

 

In my opinion Orcs = humans.

 

 

 

it's not like they were a non-entity. 

 

 

That's one of the things I'm glad they didn't mess up.  Also, regarding class halls, I definitely expect that, but I also expect at least one's buried feelings to come the surface and mess something up.  After all, some may drop everything to save the world, but just as many will also save the world and not drop grudges.  With that in mind though, I definitely hope to see so many members of the races fighting alongside each other like brother and sister.

 

...Perhaps even like husband and wife?  

 

And of course, we all have to remember that things are never perfect.  Inevitably, there will be something about something that doesn't earn our thumbs up.  What race, class, or any aspect of the game is without something we don't particularly love?

[Mr F 1,522]

..Perhaps even like husband and wife?  

Medivh + Garona halforcen is actually a thing. They got a son called Med'an.

Soo ya its all possible. However I do not want to see any half taurens, half gnomes. FOR GODS SAKE, IT HURTS.

OH BTW, WHY IN THE NAME OF THE ELEMENTS CAN'T WE MARRY IN GAME? I mean, why don't we have that? Tf2 even has it.

The lore is full of love stories, so why cannot the players have some themselves? xD

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

 

 

half taurens, half gnomes

 

By the Earthmother, NO!  How would it even be possible?

 

But marriage?  How does that work in a game?

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

Wp, comparing what I said about looks to their story. Yes male draeneis generally look horrible (there is a reason they hadly exist outside of rp servers), however some of them have a cool story. Don't take my words outta setting please.

 

I'm using them in the same context. (I'm sorry you felt that I wasn't.) You said "look like cowards." A character's design can say just as much about them as their actions. To wit, this is subjective, as to me, the Draenei look utterly badass! They are tell, muscular, horned, hooved, tentacled, space travelers! Certainly far from the Tolkien token troop model of fantasy races.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know its called WARLORDS OF DREANOR and that it would focus on orcs. But I just feel that the Draenei had soo much unused potential. Maybe I am just salty after not seeing any Akama action this expansion.

 

Unused potential that could still be explored further down the line. The Exodar is functional again, maybe it can even travel to other worlds again. Given the Prophet's vision of the Army of Light detailed in "the Prophet's Lesson" they still have a much larger role to play.

 

For all of Garrosh's menace, might, and military strength, he was still just a man, nay a boy. The Draenei's true enemy will always be the very powers that threaten entire worlds. This was simply not their time to shine, just there time to show up. 

In my opinion Orcs = humans.

 

 

 

 

 

That's one of the things I'm glad they didn't mess up.  Also, regarding class halls, I definitely expect that, but I also expect at least one's buried feelings to come the surface and mess something up.  After all, some may drop everything to save the world, but just as many will also save the world and not drop grudges.  With that in mind though, I definitely hope to see so many members of the races fighting alongside each other like brother and sister.

 

...Perhaps even like husband and wife?  

 

And of course, we all have to remember that things are never perfect.  Inevitably, there will be something about something that doesn't earn our thumbs up.  What race, class, or any aspect of the game is without something we don't particularly love?

 

I would really like that actually. I've always been a fan of love bridging the gap between life long enemies. Besides a lot of what you said would be up to simply RPing it the way you want. I know I would not mind befriending, and perhaps more, some Horde ladies. Orcs and Goblins in particular have very cute females, and of course my own natives of the Wandering Isle. (Oh right, Goblins can't be monks OR Paladins.   )

 

Me? There is no aspect of this game that's not made me love it, save for one.

By the Earthmother, NO!  How would it even be possible?

 

But marriage?  How does that work in a game?

 

There's been married characters before, in lore, and in RP.

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

 

 

There's been married characters before, in lore, and in RP.

 

I understand that.  I mean as a gameplay mechanic. 

[Mr F 1,522]

By the Earthmother, NO!  How would it even be possible?

 

But marriage?  How does that work in a game?

In tf2 its a pair of rings you can by and as a seremony the whole server congratulate you.

I could imagine such an item getting its own quest chain, where you would have some kind of ceremony in a capital city. (NO, THE DAMN EBON HOLD DOES NOT COUNT!) This should be a thing, I know plenty of couples that would love this.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

I understand that.  I mean as a gameplay mechanic. 

 

 

In tf2 its a pair of rings you can by and as a seremony the whole server congratulate you.

I could imagine such an item getting its own quest chain, where you would have some kind of ceremony in a capital city. (NO, THE DAMN EBON HOLD DOES NOT COUNT!) This should be a thing, I know plenty of couples that would love this.

 

Yeah what he said. Besides, it doesn't have to be a gameplay mechanic. Much of RP isn't informed by the raw stats after all. Does my character profile say I have a brother of the Huojin?

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

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True.  You both have a point.  And that ring idea, could that possibly cross factions? 

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If there's more cross factional communication after Legion.

[Mr F 1,522]

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True.  You both have a point.  And that ring idea, could that possibly cross factions? 

Err, doubtful but possible. Maybe an RP server only mechanic. Other than that it sounds kinda weak.

I mean, your wife/husband could kill you at any time. O_o

And it would probably be a bit hard to implement, but we got a selfie camera. WE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LOVE. XD

[Akari of Duskshire 581]

Err, doubtful but possible. Maybe an RP server only mechanic. Other than that it sounds kinda weak.

I mean, your wife/husband could kill you at any time. O_o

And it would probably be a bit hard to implement, but we got a selfie camera. WE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LOVE. XD

That would probably make the most sense.  I don't see it being effective on, say, a PvP server.

[Mr F 1,522]

That would probably make the most sense.  I don't see it being effective on, say, a PvP server.

Everyone would be too salty after all the bg action. XD

[Steel Accord 6,660]

That would probably make the most sense.  I don't see it being effective on, say, a PvP server.

 

 

Everyone would be too salty after all the bg action. XD

 

Well RP and PVP servers obviously cater to VERY different crowds.