MadPointer 75 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 I would be fine with Twilight becoming a princess if something bad would had happened to Princess Celestia(became ill, disappeared, etc) and Twilight reluctantly took on her role. Twilight wouldn't step forward to became an Winter Wrap Up organizer if Mare Mayor was more competent. Likewise she wouldn't accepted the princesshood without a serious reason. This would give more justification for the change unlike the canon one where even M.A. Larson doesn't know what Twilight did to deserve the title. It would allow to explore her new duties while keeping an option to return to the status quo. Also this idea is more consistent with Lauren's idea of Twilight becoming Celestia's successor. While I can accept her becoming a princess under these conditions, I still can't make a case for the alicorn thing. There shouldn't be a reason why a unicorn can't be a princess if they don't look like racists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 Alot of childrens show are fairly squeamish about sickness and death so it is very unlikely that something like that will happen to Celestia in the show. Twilight becoming her successor however is still a possibility, Celestia might just want to retire because she figures that she has her time and maybe wants to pursue some things she might not have had time for as a princess. 1 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadPointer 75 March 25, 2013 Author Share March 25, 2013 They could have gone with sickness or disappearance which would force the Mane Six take a quest to eventually save Celestia. Also it's not common for a monarch to willingly give up the title. No pope has resigned in almost 600 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planty 1,053 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 Tbh it's a nice idea but I think it was done quite well and Ithink in s4 her role will be we'll cemented with quality story lines. Her increase in power was shown throught all the series and built up well in s3, and like Lauren said she always intended Twilight to become a princess. I think the way they did it was good (bar adding a 2 part season finale like they should have!) 1 Have ANY questions about Christianity? INBOX ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygen 6,066 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 I suppose that would be a more interesting thing to happen, and it would make a bit more sense I guess considering we don't know Twilights princess role for now.. But the problem is the shows a kids show and I'm not sure they'd touch on a topic such as death or anything. It could also mean that Twilight would be to busy doing princess stuff in S4 and end up not doing anything with her friends. Where as for now apparently shes suppose to stay in ponyville more or less. I think things will become more clear when Twilights duties are revealed in the S4 premier. Thanks to Gone Airbourne for the awesome sig! My Oc's, Ponysona, Bella Vocal Covers Blog, MLP Covers Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starstream 182 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 (edited) I think Princess Twilight would be a great thing... if it actually affects anything in Equestria. Oh yeah! And if they cut out all the boring paperwork-esque stuff that would come with the responsibilities, though at the moment I think only the latter is true. I just can't see them changing up the status quo all that much for season four, maybe the first and last episodes (at best 4 out of 26 from what I've heard) would be affected, but the entire rest would just be more slice-of-life stuff with Twilight relegating herself to the stuff she usually does with near complete disregard of her princesshood. Don't get me wrong, I would appreciate that effort of sticking to the old formula and I think it would be an admirable thing to do, but I have two major issues with that if it would be the case: Firstly, it would make the entire coronation thing entirely pointless in the long run. If Twilight gets promoted to the most respected rank in Equestria and has no responsibilities, then why did she need to transform at all? Secondly, I just can't realistically imagine the majority of Equestria treating her normally after such a change. Ponyville is excused, because it could be argued that over the time she has spent there she got to know everypony there to the point of them not being intimidated by her anymore, but places like Canterlot, where social status means everything? They should go buck-wild if they even hear an announcement that a princess will be mingling among them, even if just for a day. Just look at how they treat poor Celestia, everyone is always so honoured to be in her presence that she barely gets any freedom to go through a regular day in ponyville without everybody orbiting around her like she has honey pasted on her flank, just imagine how this would apply to the upperclass nuts in Canterlot. Not to mention that it would be a huge waste of potential. With the change the whole symbolic symmetry in the group has pretty much been broken already, so why not take advantage of that and use Twilight as an excuse to show us more of Equestria? Change her and the mane six into diplomats and every so often take the opportunity to send them on a train ride to some foreign place that has a problem that needs an outside hand to solve. We have yet to see the zebra, changeling, or gryphon societies, and I'm sure there are many other places that could be interesting to see in the show. Heck, I'd even go for seapony Atlantis if it means that alicorn Twilight actually affects anything. This way Hasbro can simultaneously use their own change to market their ware in the show, and we could get an extra occasional non-slice-of-life episode. I think this sounds reasonable, do I sound crazy when I propose this? Edit: I'm very sorry for the long run-on sentences, I need to learn to remedy that. Edited March 25, 2013 by Rockmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 I think this sounds reasonable, do I sound crazy when I propose this? Not at all I may have my concerns about the change as I feel it is a bit soon but if they handle it that way than it would have a high probably of actually working out. Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadPointer 75 March 25, 2013 Author Share March 25, 2013 I think Princess Twilight would be a great thing... if it actually affects anything in Equestria. We still don't know how it will affect anything in the future so I don't understand how you could already regret that Princess Twilight isn't a great thing. For all we know the show might take your idea. Would you change anything in the latest episode or do you think it's fine as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 Alot of childrens show are fairly squeamish about sickness and death so it is very unlikely that something like that will happen to Celestia in the show. Twilight becoming her successor however is still a possibility, Celestia might just want to retire because she figures that she has her time and maybe wants to pursue some things she might not have had time for as a princess. That's not to say it doesn't happen though. At the end of Power Rangers in Space, the main character had to kill Zordon in order to save the galaxy. And even before that, there was a situation where Zordon wasn't there to guide the heroes, forcing them to rely on one another instead of a mentor figure. With Twilight becoming a Princess, it almost seems like they might be setting up for Celestia and Luna to go away somewhere. If this is the case, then it means the mentor figure would be gone and Twilight and the others would have to rely on each other to get through all the challenges. So while I don't think Celestia will outright retire or die, I could see her being put into a situation where she phyically cannot help the mane 6, even if it ends up being temporary. A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starstream 182 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 (edited) We still don't know how it will affect anything in the future so I don't understand how you could already regret that Princess Twilight isn't a great thing. For all we know the show might take your idea. You are completely in the right my friend, I cannot read the minds of the writers and Hasbro, nor can I predict the future. I can not truly "regret" Princess Twilight yet because... well... you said it, there's not enough to really "regret". That having been said, the entirety of season 3 left a bitter taste in my mouth and I will be the first to admit that my entire statement before caries a tone of bias to it. I just can't see them making a change to the formula like the one I described. As much as I want to believe it, I just. can't. see. it. Would you change anything in the latest episode or do you think it's fine as is? Well, I by no means think it's "fine as is", so assuming I would be put into charge of re-writing the episode right at this moment, having seen all the fan responses, positive and negative, I would make... let's say... three changes. Firstly, I'd split it into 2 episodes, give some more time to flesh out the real focus of the episode, because I think most people can generally agree that it felt rushed. Secondly, I'd give less time for the coronation, because for a good amount of time we were looking at a story without conflict, considering that the one conflict in the episode had already been resolved. And to me it kinda seemed like the show was stroking its... uhm... "alicorn horn" for the latter part of the episode. Finally, I guess I'd add in more relevance to certain pre-established stuff. For one, Discord. They needed him for something in the future, this seems like an opportunity to me. I doubt he'd want to see his new friend Fluttershy affected by magic that resulted in her being so unhappy. Or how about the evil corrupt black Sombra magic? I honestly thought they were going somewhere with that and I can't be the only one with that thought. Or the crystal empire... I don't know, I guess I'm kind of grasping at straws for that one, but my point still stands that I don't think those few additions would ruin the episode and could in fact add something to it in the form of binding the season together. Oh yeah, with the extra time, maybe another song or two. I didn't care much for them, but there are a lot of people who do, so in my mind, why not give them more of what they liked? Edited March 25, 2013 by Rockmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmonic Revelations 8,835 March 25, 2013 Share March 25, 2013 I would be fine with Twilight becoming a princess if something bad would had happened to Princess Celestia(became ill, disappeared, etc) and Twilight reluctantly took on her role. Twilight wouldn't step forward to became an Winter Wrap Up organizer if Mare Mayor was more competent. Likewise she wouldn't accepted the princesshood without a serious reason. This would give more justification for the change unlike the canon one where even M.A. Larson doesn't know what Twilight did to deserve the title. It would allow to explore her new duties while keeping an option to return to the status quo. Also this idea is more consistent with Lauren's idea of Twilight becoming Celestia's successor. While I can accept her becoming a princess under these conditions, I still can't make a case for the alicorn thing. There shouldn't be a reason why a unicorn can't be a princess if they don't look like racists. If Princess Celestia died or disappeared I don't know what I'd do. I definitely wouldn't be okay with something happening to Princess Celestia, and I'm already okay with Princess Twilight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love*Potion 575 March 26, 2013 Share March 26, 2013 I don't think that Princess Celestia or Luna plan to step down from the throne anytime soon; I think that it was Twilight's destiny from the beginning (of Season 3, who knows if that's what they were thinking in S1) I personally don't like this change, but I am interested in where it will take the story Meet my OC's : Honeycomb and Kismet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw5587 182 March 26, 2013 Share March 26, 2013 (edited) Hold on, if Celestia were to retire, why wouldn't Luna take over? I honestly don't think she'd react all that well to having Twilight, a very young pony compared to herself and Celestia, take on the main leadership role that Celestia occupied. Edited March 26, 2013 by jackw545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scythe 39 March 27, 2013 Share March 27, 2013 I would be fine with Twilight as a Princess if I had answers for a few burning questions in my head. WHY did she need to become 2 more races? I think I remember reading Lauren Faust saying alicorns are made of all 3 pony types. If she did something spectacular as a unicorn and is being rewarded, what is the point of making more races part of her? When does it end? Is that what happened to Discord? The more races your body is made of, the more powerful/ascended you are? Are manticores and griffons naturally more powerful than other things? I agree with MadPointer, here. What is she a Princess of? She may have experience in leading her friends, Winter Wrap Up and a few other things, but what does she know of diplomacy between warring nations or how to run an Empire well? If Celestia and Luna are immortal, why would they need another Princess? Are they both planning on going somewhere? Are they aliens returning to the mother planet? If they are good and just rulers, why change the status quo? Are they bored? Is Twilight the Princess of being a powerful defence force? That reminds me, I really feel sorry for those poor Earth ponies in the Crystal Empire that lose one unicorn leader, only to gain an alicorn and a unicorn. Earth ponies don't get to govern themselves, I guess. SssSslaaavesss. If Twilight has a few more things to study, how much time will she have for a social life? She couldn't have learned everything from her bookish upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot 40 March 27, 2013 Share March 27, 2013 I doubt Twilight would be able to fill Celestia's role. It doesn't seem like she has the amount of experience, ability, or magical ability for that matter to fill the role. I mean, she'd have to be powerful enough to move the entire sun. Now, her changing forms might solve the "power problem," but we haven't seen her magical ability yet so we can't be sure. We still don't know how it will affect anything in the future so I don't understand how you could already regret that Princess Twilight isn't a great thing. For all we know the show might take your idea. So correct. We need to see where they're taking this before we say it's a bad or good change. http://i.imgur.com/Y7DbzpO.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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