Your definition of Insanity.

[EpicEnergy 23,224]

1 minute ago, CypherHoof said:

Isn't that how they define "practice" though?

Not sure, that's just what I was told.

[Jedishy 3,549]

4 minutes ago, CypherHoof said:

Isn't that how they define "practice" though?

No in any case of the word practice you are expecting the same results. Even if you expect improvement at what you are practicing you go in with the expectation of getting better. 

[Here No Longer 5,276]

An insane person is one who is delusional to the point where they can't accept logic or reason. Bonus points if they think it's everyone else that's insane.

 

A great example is the far right.

[Mirage 24,771]

1 minute ago, EpicEnergy said:

Not sure, that's just what I was told.

It's okay, you're right within a certain context.

Let's take money for example. You get a credit card believing like everyone else, that it makes you an adult and gives you some spending 'freedom'. Well, you buy some things, make your payments, have an emergency or two, max out your limit and figure, ah well, I can afford the payment I'll just get another card and work some extra overtime.

So you make some more money, get another card, and lo! That gets maxed too. Strange huh?

Well it must be the bank's fault and capitalism sucks and all that right? Well, maybe they do, but the insanity here is the self-deception that you think you're doing everything right by doing adult things and gosh...the interest is so high and you always seem to need something...

And so, the repetition of trying to out earn stupidity may manifest in the form of bankruptcy, which some wake up from and change their habits, while others will eventually end up in the same place. Living within your means is adult. Spending like your rich when you're not, is stupidity, and if you keep doing it regardless of the red flags, you've got pathological insanity.

That is doing something over and over and expecting a different result...aka denial. So it is indeed practice...but if it's destructive practice, then it's obviously insanity. 

[CypherHoof 26,483]

30 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

No in any case of the word practice you are expecting the same results. Even if you expect improvement at what you are practicing you go in with the expectation of getting better. 

But by definition, practice is doing the same thing over and over until you improve (and hence, get different results) ?

[Jedishy 3,549]

13 minutes ago, CypherHoof said:

But by definition, practice is doing the same thing over and over until you improve (and hence, get different results) ?

No you are twisting the words. 
Its doing the same thing over and over and EXPECTING DIFFERENT results. 
When you practice you expect each time to move towards getting better. That is expecting the same results. Its the same thing as digging a hole. Each move of the shovel you move towards a hole. You do not expect at any point that it wont dig a a bit of dirt or make a hole. In short you expect to dig the size hole you set out to from the beginning. Same thing with practice. 
In order for what you are claiming to be right you would have to do it one time expecting to get better and the next time say you will get worse. Which is never the case. 

[TBD 17,256]

In other word @CypherHoof, life is meaningless...and when you realized it is you still going about it with your life. 

[Mirage 24,771]

Very often in creative or in sport endeavors, one reaches what is known as a 'plateau'. For whatever reason, their training or practice is not improving performance. It would be a kind of insanity if one just kept trying the same methods over and over and over, expecting to get better but never does. What a wise practitioner does is stand back and analyze what is going on and seeks wisdom from others to 'snap out' of the flux they're in and tries different methods instead. That is sanity. Therefore the idea that repetition is simply practice no matter how or where it is applied is a rather irrational.

If I have to explain the difference between humility and denial, then anything else I say won't make any sense either. And so even in a debate it's possible to plateau and keep trying the same things, expecting some result, but it just keeps going in circles because like a kite on a string, the ego resists change that threatens its dominance.

Edited February 26, 2020 by Mirage

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