movies/tv Bane(Batman) vs Marshmallow(Frozen)

[Dattebayo 2,850]

 

It's Marshmallow's only feat, therefore, we go by it. He's fairly slow though to be fair(not Bane)

A one trick pony vs one of the DC universe's most dangerous villains...

Hmm.

 

That is debatable. Spider-Man has regeneration too, but it's not combat worthy. It means he can heal a broken arm in a day, maybe the same thing will happen with Bane?

I believe the quote was that the user "can heal his wounds on the battlefield".

 

He's not that smart when roided up on Venom, he loses focus

Quite the opposite. The user's mind actually becomes more focused and his reflexes sharper. (among other onvious things)

When he overdoses is when he starts to lose focus.

 

Pain threshold means nothing when an icicle impales your heart or lungs. Bane isn't strong enough to survive a head on brawl

WHAT. I don't think you comic book, friend.

Bane is all ABOUT head-on brawls. There is literally nothing he enjoys more than head-on brawls.

And he isn't even just brute strength, he's a master of several martial arts and has even invented his own unique style that takes advantage of his size, reach, speed, strength, and cunning.

 

 

C'mon, I thought you knew better than to pull out game-ruining instant-kill scenarios like that.

@@Andaasonsan,

I said no other villains can help him out in the OP

Villains=thugs? What?

 

1. Maybe

:okiedokielokie:

And what is that?

 

2. No villains, which includes thugs, can help him

BRB donasipdfip ashfdipnaqsdip ahsuodhgas

Edited April 10, 2014 by Dattebayo

[Hive King 2,001]

Random street thugs are "villains"? Lame.  :okiedokielokie:

Penguin is a random street thug too

 

 

A one trick pony vs one of the DC universe's most dangerous villains... Hmm.

I think Bane is severely below the likes of any Superman villain

 

 

I believe the quote was that the user "can heal his wounds on the battlefield".

I've never seen him do that. Maybe it's increased stamina so that lactic acid isn't in his muscles?

 

 

Quite the opposite. The user's mind actually becomes more focused and his reflexes sharper. (among other onvious things) When he overdoses is when he starts to lose focus.

Oh, my mistake then. So, we can have him weaker but smarter or vice a verse? Cool

 

 

WHAT. I don't think you comic book, friend. Bane is all ABOUT head-on brawls. There is literally nothing he enjoys more than head-on brawls. And he isn't even just brute strength, he's a master of several martial arts

A head on brawl with Marshmallow, not with some other random guy. Bane can take many in a brawl, just not the 25 foot tall snowman. Martial arts don't help much against a creature with no bones, organs, or pain receptors at all. I don't think there's an "Anti-Snowman Juitsu(Batman has one though xD)"

[Dattebayo 2,850]

There, finished the post.

 

Read it, please.

Edited April 10, 2014 by Dattebayo

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

C'mon, I thought you knew better than to pull out game-ruining instant-kill scenarios like that.

Getting impaled by an icicle is hardly an OP thing. In a more open space like a city, Bane has room to dodge 

 

 

Villains=thugs? What?

Since I wasn't clear on this, I'll edit the OP. No other people can help

 

 

And what is that?

For me to know.... 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Penguin is a random street thug too

Again...do you even comic book?

 

I think Bane is severely below the likes of any Superman villain

Metallo.  Toyman. Hell, even Myxer Pitlik (he can definitely outsmart him if Superman could)..

 

I've never seen him do that. Maybe it's increased stamina so that lactic acid isn't in his muscles?

They wouldn't mention it if the effect was that paltry.

 

Oh, my mistake then. So, we can have him weaker but smarter or vice a verse? Cool

More Venom--> smarter (and he was already a genius to begin with)

Overdose--> stronger, but loses control

 

A head on brawl with Marshmallow, not with some other random guy. Bane can take many in a brawl, just not the 25 foot tall snowman. Martial arts don't help much against a creature with no bones, organs, or pain receptors at all. I don't think there's an "Anti-Snowman Juitsu(Batman has one though xD)"

ACTUALLY....

 

Accounting for the foreground/background aspects and the hunched positions of both characters, it's very safe to assume that he's only about...what...12 feet tall? MAYBE 13? Prbably 11.5, I don't know.

Bane, on Venom, gets to be 8 feet tall and he only grows bigger the more he uses it. The size difference isn't that great and holds no advantage.

 

I'm getting pretty tired of these...

I post actual useful facts and you keep relying on things already said in the OP, situational events, and insta-kills. x)

[Captain Brony (MG11) 218]

The TN1 serum that Bane created might actually make him strong enough to defeat marshmellow

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Again...do you even comic book?

He's a fat guy with a few trick umbrellas, yeah, that covers it

 

 

Metallo.  Toyman. Hell, even Myxer Pitlik (he can definitely outsmart him if Superman could)..

Is he stronger than Metallo? Anyway, fair enough but not that relevant

 

 

They wouldn't mention it if the effect was that paltry.

Maybe it's a passive thing so that if she sprains his ankle or something he can recover quicker? I just don't see him being the Wolverine type regenerator

 

 

ACTUALLY....   Accounting for the foreground/background aspects and the hunched positions of both characters, it's very safe to assume that he's only about...what...12 feet tall? MAYBE 13? Prbably 11.5, I don't know. Bane, on Venom, gets to be 8 feet tall and he only grows bigger the more he uses it. The size difference isn't that great and holds no advantage.

His size is a bit inconsistent but yeah, I see your point now. Bane doesn't look as big for some reason, IDK why. Again though, martial arts don't work too well against someone who has no bones or nerve clusters to hit. Not to mention Bane's love of holds might bite him in the ass if Marshmallow decides to sprout his icicles

 

 

I post actual useful facts and you keep relying on things already said in the OP, situational events, and insta-kills. x)

Because flinging a tree is a not a fact?

 

And how is an insta-kill wrong to use? It's a weapon Marshmallow has, it'd be like removing Spider-Man's webbing. Bane does have weapons, but to my knowledge, he has no signature weapon that he carries around. 

 

What situational have I even cited?

 

And for stuff said in the OP, it's to make things fair. I've given Bane some prep time to help him, but giving him thugs, which he hardly ever uses anyway, is not necesarry if he is as powerful as you say

The TN1 serum that Bane created might actually make him strong enough to defeat marshmellow

Is this in New 52? Or are you referring to the thing in Arkham Origins, because that is non-canon

[Captain Brony (MG11) 218]

@Evil Dragon Master

Problem) The version of Bane used here was never clarified

 

Aside from that even if he can't use TN1 Bane can still use guns and Explosives. He would rather weaken his opponent indirectly before finishing them off himself.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

He's a fat guy with a few trick umbrellas, yeah, that covers it

With that logic, Marshmellow is just a foemd hunk of ice.

There's way more to it than that, he's Gotham's go-to guy when you need big weapons, and he controls both a sprwaling crime empire and the biggest, meanest army of thugs in Gotham. Not that Bat's can't handle them, but not the point.

 

 

Maybe it's a passive thing so that if she sprains his ankle or something he can recover quicker? I just don't see him being the Wolverine type regenerator

Just looked this up:

• Superhuman Healing: He can also use Venom as a type of medicine that can heal him from most injury, poison, wound, infection, and disease.

 

 

His size is a bit inconsistent but yeah, I see your point now. Bane doesn't look as big for some reason, IDK why. Again though, martial arts don't work too well against someone who has no bones or nerve clusters to hit. Not to mention Bane's love of holds might bite him in the ass if Marshmallow decides to sprout his icicles

But you sure as hell can bet his attacks will dismember Ice Cube with little to medium effort.

 

Because flinging a tree is a not a fact?

It happened once and you're basing the entire "He beats Bane" argument out of that.

 

And how is an insta-kill wrong to use? It's a weapon Marshmallow has, it'd be like removing Spider-Man's webbing. Bane does have weapons, but to my knowledge, he has no signature weapon that he carries around. 

I mean to say you can't say "Boom, just shot him with an icle. Bane is dead now". Do you really HONESTLY believe that's how the fight will play out? You have to specify the characters strengths and compare them to the opponent in the event of a battle to the death. Such is the game!

 

What situational have I even cited?

Him uprooting 1 tree, one time.

 

And for stuff said in the OP, it's to make things fair. I've given Bane some prep time to help him, but giving him thugs, which he hardly ever uses anyway, is not necesarry if he is as powerful as you say

Have you read Knightfall?

His thugs (like Bird) are major orchestrators in the events that unfolded there and are vey essential to the plot.

Is this in New 52? Or are you referring to the thing in Arkham Origins, because that is non-canon

We're including Bane as a cmoic book character, cartoon character, and any other media. Such is the rules.

 

Proof is in the Venom pudding.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

@Evil Dragon Master Problem) The version of Bane used here was never clarified Aside from that even if he can't use TN1 Bane can still use guns and Explosives. He would rather weaken his opponent indirectly before finishing them off himself.

Usually, we assume comics Bane. But yes, you are right

 

 

With that logic, Marshmellow is just a foemd hunk of ice. There's way more to it than that, he's Gotham's go-to guy when you need big weapons, and he controls both a sprwaling crime empire and the biggest, meanest army of thugs in Gotham. Not that Bat's can't handle them, but not the point.

I'll retract my point then. Bane can get ordinary gear(assuming he has the connections) but no Joker gas or unique stuff like that

 

 

Just looked this up: Superhuman Healing: He can also use Venom as a type of medicine that can heal him from most injury, poison, wound, infection, and disease.

A scan would be nice to see just how fast it is

 

 

But you sure as hell can bet his attacks will dismember Ice Cube with little to medium effort

Probably, but it won't put him down for good if falling off a giant cliff didn't kill Marshmallow

 

 

It happened once and you're basing the entire "He beats Bane" argument out of that.

What other feats are we going to use? Slapping away some soldiers? Reeling in Kristoff and Anna? It's his best feat and is uncontradicted

 

 

I mean to say you can't say "Boom, just shot him with an icle. Bane is dead now". Do you really HONESTLY believe that's how the fight will play out? You have to specify the characters strengths and compare them to the opponent in the event of a battle to the death. Such is the game!

Oh, I get it now. My original point was that while pain tolerance is useful, against an opponent who can pierce you, it's not too useful. Not to say Bane can't dodge, but you get my point

 

 

Him uprooting 1 tree, one time.

What should I use then? Other than that, he has little combat feats.

 

 

Have you read Knightfall? His thugs (like Bird) are major orchestrators in the events that unfolded there and are vey essential to the plot.

 

Indeed, but that's the thing. In a fair fight, Bane would have never broken Batman's back. He had weakened Batman over tons of time which took much more than one day of prep

 

 

We're including Bane as a cmoic book character, cartoon character, and any other media. Such is the rules.

Then there are conflicting aspects. Bane in the Arkham Series is a roided up moron, Bane in Batman and Robin is as well, Bane in TDKR has barely an super strength, Bane in New 52 is much stronger than classic Bane, etc. 

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

Then there are conflicting aspects. Bane in the Arkham Series is a roided up moron, Bane in Batman and Robin is as well, Bane in TDKR has barely an super strength, Bane in New 52 is much stronger than classic Bane, etc. 

In your other threads like this you've cited things like cartoons.

 

I think this kind of gets to the problem at the root of these debates: Comic book characters aren't exactly written super consistently in regards to what exactly they're capable of, especially when you have many different writers with their own interpretations of the same character.

 

The answer to most comic book "who would win" arguments basically comes down to who is writing the story.

Look at Superman for instance: depending on which comic you pick his powers can range from somewhat stronger and tougher than humans, to ridiculously godlike and overpowered.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Andaasonsan,

Yes, but when I cite them, there are no huge differences. I don't cite the 90's Spider-Man because that one has trouble lifting a car. Bane's portrayal has been changed, a lot throughout the years since lots of people think he's an idiot 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Usually, we assume comics Bane. But yes, you are right

 

 

I'll retract my point then. Bane can get ordinary gear(assuming he has the connections) but no Joker gas or unique stuff like that

Of course not

 

 

A scan would be nice to see just how fast it is

It really would. But since it's explicitlly mentioned , you have to include it as his powers here until proven otherwise.

 

Probably, but it won't put him down for good if falling off a giant cliff didn't kill Marshmallow

See bottom post

 

What other feats are we going to use? Slapping away some soldiers? Reeling in Kristoff and Anna? It's his best feat and is uncontradicted

That's why he wasn't a good choice for this match-up. He has an undefined skillset. ONE thing to back up all these claims you're making.

 

Bane Vs Hulk? MUCH better match up. Much more balanced and thought-provoking.

 

 

Oh, I get it now. My original point was that while pain tolerance is useful, against an opponent who can pierce you, it's not too useful. Not to say Bane can't dodge, but you get my point

Acknowledged

 

What should I use then? Other than that, he has little combat feats.

See bottom post.

 

 

Indeed, but that's the thing. In a fair fight, Bane would have never broken Batman's back. He had weakened Batman over tons of time which took much more than one day of prep

Never start a fair fight when you got the cunning to do so. x)

 

 

Then there are conflicting aspects. Bane in the Arkham Series is a roided up moron, Bane in Batman and Robin is as well, Bane in TDKR has barely an super strength, Bane in New 52 is much stronger than classic Bane, etc.

Roided up moron? He was co

Well, in the Arkham series, he's gone too far into an overdose, hence his freakish appearance (you see that exact process in Origins). But he's still coherent and even smart enough to trick Bats into revealing the location of Titan in Arkham City.

 

'Spose. I'll give you that.

 

 

Look. it all comes down to this:

Since Marshmellow most likely works on common Golem lore (in which the wizard uses their magic to power the golem, acting as the object's "life source"), all Bane needs to do is keep dismembering (which we must all assume takes a considerable amount of magic to reform after) and keep wearing it out until the magic leaves the snowlem.

 

Bane has the speed, strength, stamina, and most importantly, the patience to do just that.

He'll go toe-to-toe with Ice Cube, taking a few potshots here and there, dismembering a limb now and then, and most importantly, dodging and countering his very predictable attacks (he telegraphs them from light-years away).

 

Bane wins, and it's pretty silly to think that a one-trick pony with a total of 5-minutes of screentime (hence, a lack of a varied and reliable skillset), no matter how big/strong he is or how many icicles he throws, can stand a chance against on with the stamina, strength, and cunning of someone like Bane.

 

gg

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

It really would. But since it's explicitlly mentioned , you have to include it as his powers here until proven otherwise.

But what kind of regeneration, that's the key

 

 

Bane Vs Hulk? MUCH better match up. Much more balanced and thought-provoking.

Hulk would make Bane his bitch by flicking him

 

 

Never start a fair fight when you got the cunning to do so. x)

Maybe so, but in this case, he's being forced to be fair

 

 

Since Marshmellow most likely works on common Golem lore (in which the wizard uses their magic to power the golem, acting as the object's "life source"), all Bane needs to do is keep dismembering (which we must all assume takes a considerable amount of magic to reform after) and keep wearing it out until the magic leaves the snowlem.

We don't know this for sure. It took no energy what so ever for Olaf to reform himself from heinous injuries, and he's not even meant for fighting and had barley any magic put into him

 

 

Bane has the speed, strength, stamina, and most importantly, the patience to do just that. He'll go toe-to-toe with Ice Cube, taking a few potshots here and there, dismembering a limb now and then, and most importantly, dodging and countering his very predictable attacks (he telegraphs them from light-years away).

Bane's size works against him here. Marshmallow has a huge reach and while Bane isn't slow, his size will make him more likely to get tagged a few times

 

 

Bane wins, and it's pretty silly to think that a one-trick pony with a total of 5-minutes of screentime (hence, a lack of a varied and reliable skillset), no matter how big/strong he is or how many icicles he throws, can stand a chance against on with the stamina, strength, and cunning of someone like Bane.

When said skill set consists of flinging a huge tree like it's a baseball, that's very good.  

 

I do get your point about Marshmallow not being on screen long enough but I go off his best feat, being the tree tossing.

 

Many other characters have gotten by with only one feat to prove their might, Arceus comes to mind

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Whatever your next match up is...

Be sure to actually put in research and stock into both fighters beforehand. x)

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Dattebayo,

So you would object to my putting Penguin against TOAA?

 

I don't see why you think I'm not researching either fighter, from what I've seen, Marshmallow has vastly better feats than Bane 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

@@Dattebayo,

So you would object to my putting Penguin against TOAA?

 

I don't see why you think I'm not researching either fighter, from what I've seen, Marshmallow has vastly better feats than Bane

He has one thing that's shown about him, and that's not even impressive compared to Bane's entire skillset--!

 

No.. No. Not doing it anymore.

You obviously have a sinister purpose behind all of this.

Probably taking screen caps and posting them elsewhere, you d*ck. xD

--

lol

Discord vs Thanos is a good one.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Dattebayo,

I don't even know how to take screen caps and if I did, why would I post them somewhere? My sinister purpose is drawing out blind fanboys, like a certain someone who said Batman can beat Anti-Spiral

 

IDK enough about Thanos to do that thread 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

>talks about blind fanboys

>is a bind fanboy

 

I'll be certain to avoid your threads in the future then, friend. x)

 

edit: the f*ck is Anti Spiral?

Edited April 10, 2014 by Dattebayo

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Dattebayo,

When was I ever a blind fanboy?

 

Anti-Spiral is the guy in my avi and he's....well, he can use galaxies as shurikens and harness the power of the Big Bang...in his first form 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

@@Dattebayo,

When was I ever a blind fanboy?

 

Anti-Spiral is the guy in my avi and he's....well, he can use galaxies as shurikens and harness the power of the Big Bang...in his first form

Marshmellow Vs Bane, Celestia Vs Elsa.

No matter how well the facts presented to you were, you kept resorting to insta-kill situations when backed into a corner and kept retreating to the same old arguments, even if discredited. x)

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Dattebayo,

I could say the same thing to you. The problem is that I don't ignore feats unless they are contradicted. You seem to focus only on the feats beneficial to you.

 

I am no fanboy, Marshmallow gets sodomized by Spider-Man, Hulk, Rhino, Firefly, and many others while Elsa falls to the likes of Flash, Dr. Fate, and any DBZ character. 

 

When did my strength argument for Marshmallow get discredited? And I don't get your problem with insta-kill situations. I am illustrating ways in which one could take out the other, in the Elsa vs Celestia case, Elsa has more ways to kill Celestia than vice a versa

[Captain Brony (MG11) 218]

I'm not liking how the anti-Bane arguments are acting as if he's a thugged-out moron.

 

Bane is not stupid (which is an understatement), and would not underestimate a larger enemy like Marshmellow. He'd most likely use the environment to his advantage using smaller areas that restrict his movement.

 

He's also not a wrestler despite his looks. He has some degree of Martial Arts training as well as Gunmanship.

 

Bane's two best pieces of equipment are his Venom formulas and biggest gun which is an RPG-7.

 

His best weapon however is his mind seeing as how he orchestrated one of Arkham's greatest break-outs and best Gotham takeover in history as well as deducing who Batman really was.

If he can do all of this in a few months imagine what he could do in a day.

 

"A Giant Snowman...Really?"

 

"You have 1 day of prep time."

 

"...Really?"

 

"Yes."

 

"You sure you don't want me to do it now. I mean I can literally do this in 3 hours."

[Revertz 159]

THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE :okiedokielokie:

 

I pick the dude from Frozen I have a few friends who like that movie.

 

That is all.

 

 

Awwww poor Ghostie trying to find those Rarity threads BUT THEY'RE ALL LIES!!!

Edited April 11, 2014 by Revertz

[yeet 2,027]

Well bane would lose, because he is dead.

Don't know about the other guy though.