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  1. Atheists are aggressive

    Not all atheists, some just couldn't be bothered, and I don't blame them considering the effort to consideration or conversion ratio is usually too damn high(meaning most people ignore it or think around it). Also aggressive or not, I am actually correct. :P

    If I'm being honest, this reads less like someone trying to have a legitimate discussion or explain something for the benefit of someone else, and more like a statement about how you damn religious people to be less worthy people. Especially given how this back and forth started.

     

    I think you're probably better off just letting him go his own way, and you go yours. :) Whatever words y'all have for each other are not (by the sound of it) gonna hold weight. Plus, there's all kinds of interesting youtube videos out there to watch instead~♥ The comment section sucks, and there's a lot of frustration and bile there somedays.

    Its more of an explanation about what I know that most christians don't. And I am allowed to criticize ideology/dogma/etc. Not like I am bashing, silly goose. But yeah conversation was basically over then.

     

    From one self-aware text-waller (I'm trying to stop) to another: Aren't there better uses for your time?  What are you accomplishing by writing novels to complete strangers online?

    Hehe yeah I text wall and stuff. Better uses of my time? Idk. Not really. I could game instead but half the time I don't have an interest in it, and being not very myself irl I tend to linger on the web. What am I accomplishing? Maybe people will grow a brain cell or two, and lose a few harmful ideas.

     

    broadly speaking its fine to do so onoine onforums such as this. But I strongly advise staying away from comment sections especially areas like Youtube where trolls, morons, racists, conspiracy theorists and a whole slew of undesirables. Many of my religious discussions with strangers have been in public in person, most telling me I'm going to hell for not being close enough to god, even though I'm catholic. Granted, they're mostly polite about it and now screaming or hurdling slurs, but you can't win with religion. You're damned by at least half a dozen faiths even if you were Jesus himself.

    Don't worry I know trolls exist, I have dealt with it before and am practically impervious at this rate. And in a forum site meant to bring debates to the internet, due to low regulation the only people population it were narcissists trolls and toxic people who couldn't be bothered to stop making fallacies and ad hominems, and unchecked superiority complexes. Also you can report/delete comments that degrade into plain insults. So youtube is actually semi-decent for me. Years ago I wouldn't have had a thicker skin though. And one thing going for atheism is its on the rise with quality of life and education so if the world wants peace atheism will be predominant eventually.

  2. Prayers are subconsciously superstitious, and are not grounded in reality, even if consciously they are not superstitious. 

    But did you ever notice a spoon can scoop more peanutbutter or mayo out of a jar than a butterknife, with less mess? Yet if you do it you get reprimanded for it being anti-traditional, 'not the way things are done' abnormal etc. Now whats the basis for that? Fear of deviation, fear of being considered weird, fear of offending family.

    Its similar, no one wants to offend god right, and superstition is usually traditional. But thats somewhat tangential.

     

    So, does prayer have a physical basis? Psychology dictates it feels good, and physics dictates it does nothing and makes you feel good for inaction then. Its a coping mechanism for not over-extending resources to everyone unfortunate when it means going out of your way to do so, so it can be a healthy response since it avoids over extending your time and resources til you cannot even handle yourself. But its so common sometimes it throws away something you could have done, which is why its bad, plus its in inaccurate activity to begin with. But, I wonder what an atheistic version of prayer would be like. 

     

    Anywho, if you pray your chance to go to heaven goes up, some would say. And if you don't, your chance of going to hell goes up some would say. Tell me that isn't superstitious. Its plain operant conditioning on social behavior, infinite bad vs infinite good, do this, don't do this. Its superstition in a more existential sense, and for example, why a good luck charm? Some people believe in demons or witches, such as in some cultures they wear an evil eye to prevent witches from harming them. Similarly people pray to prevent the devil demons or hell.

     

    Its the same thing.

  3. First we need to define superstition 

    su·per·sti·tion
    ˌso͞opərˈstiSH(ə)n/
    noun
     
    1. excessively credulous belief in and reverence for supernatural beings.
      "he dismissed the ghost stories as mere superstition"
      synonyms: unfounded belief, credulityfallacydelusionillusionMore
       
       
       
      • a widely held but unjustified belief in supernatural causation leading to certain consequences of an action or event, or a practice based on such a belief.
        plural noun: superstitions
        "she touched her locket for luck, a superstition she had had since childhood"
        synonyms: mythbeliefold wives' taleMore
         
         

     

    So basically anything not physically rationed and evidenced for a belief is superstitious. That means thinking demons are real, thinking angels are real, thinking certain activities bring out bad demons such as an Ouija board, thinking god hears prayers, thinking god exists and made everything. If you find a different definition and disagree with the one above feel free to share. But its basically, if its not grounded in reality, and it promotes or demotes certain activities (the job of the frontal cortex) then its superstition (also, allowing the logical part of the brain to be dictated by fear, and emotion. Thus its an enemy against logic.)

  4. Isn't superstition more like 'don't sweep your house on new year' 'don't stand under the banana tree at night' etc? The things you're describing seem more to the religious side of things

    The devil is an example of a negative superstition. Also studies show the religious tend to be more superstitious. 

    http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/study-religious-people-struggle-to-understand-the-physical-world

  5. I've actually been studying on REM (Rapid Eye Movement) in psychology in school. Quite interesting how we have a few modes that we go through when we sleep. 

     

    But does daydreaming help heal the brain? 

    I think it did but couldn't find it so its possible I misrecalled it. I know if you meditate a fraction of it is counted towards sleep though. Also in particular I thought what i read suggested it had a similar neural pathway, but I cannot seem to find it. 

     

    Oh well this is curious http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-03-neuroscientist-group-daydreaming-brain-social.html 

    And this keeps getting mentioned alot so probably relevant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_mode_network#Function 

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  6. Jesus who asked for disciples to sell all their things, takes expensive oil and gets his feet soaked in it when it could go to the poor (feet some scholars say is euphemism for genitalia in the bible). Surely a sinless man, who curses fig trees because they don't bare fruit, because. A person who says he doesn't heal all the lepers because they wouldn't learn not to get leprosy if he just cured them all the time. 

     

    And yeah actually, his crucifixion does not fall in line with historical roman crucifixion. Alot of the plot in that story doesn't make sense.

     

    Plus tell me how much women found Jesus' tomb, because each reiteration of it differs. But the bible isn't contradicting, it was magic, wooo~.

  7. Because of reading being symbols, and fiction's diversity there may be some skill transferal if you do know what to note and what to look for to note but it won't be direct skill transfer it'll be indirect. You might learn how to read them faster, but you won't just suddenly get skill towards it for no reason. But being able to speed read, if I had to figure out what it transfers to more specifically, it'd be quality of reading the information the opponent has, but reading is more disconnected it'd be more tangential. Like, how does playing tetris improve cod skills? Its sorta hard to figure out. If anything I may be overthinking it and the stress reduction from reading may have a larger impact on gameplay than speed-reading itself.

     

    But it should improve visual attentiveness for sure, along with visual processing speed. But because its not directly related to coordination it is likely going to be a fraction of the transfer unless I mix activities. But imagination/thought speed improvement also generally helps planning in response to new information as well because you can go over a strategy faster and more correctly. But not as good as if you received coaching for instance.

     

    Like, an athlete can be better in other sports than the common person even if they have not tried it before and would theoretically be even. I am sort of going for something like that but with the brain. In which case I should exercise more for more fluid intelligence.

     

    But um, if you speed-read mystery novels or a novel where its two intelligent minds trying to best each other then it'd probably transfer more, or if it involves someone who can point out what information a person gives and make an accurate deduction from it. It'd help you prime your mind more for such a thing as SC2 in those contexts, than say a romance thing, though romance involves understanding people too so maybe it still helps some. 

     

    Its really hard to say, but I would say if you wanted to improve at a specific game, with speed-reading, it'd have to be fanfiction involving the game or a typed out coaching-type article. But even then it may get technical, and not help unless you memorize it, for a game like sc2, but for a team game it'd probably help with the basics.

     

    Also with the cod game half the time I was using pistol only like that. Getting the first kills were hard and I think whilst doing that the best I did was like 10 kills 21 deaths. With aim assists off on console.

     

    Best way to improve in an individual game is to play it, best way to improve in multiple games is to play them (coaching too) and best way to improve the brain is to be physically fit and mentally fit. And I just think this is a good exercise, most of this comment is speculation or approximation.

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  8. I see. So this is like effective speed decision (reflexes) making? Or like effective speed information gathering? :)

     

    What would you use this ability for (anything planned for the future)? 

    I am somewhat paranoid about declining mental health after poor sleep and social stress essentially gave me a breakdown which effected me for a couple years. So I am basically doing it to avoid dementia and similar things in late adulthood and because I think it'd be good to have a more efficient brain and such. Also I am curious about skills carrying over into other games or such. I have done alot of research into the brain in correlation to videogames, through googling studies. Also looked up some about reading. Sometimes I theorize over what sort of complex games would yield the most benefits. Each game helps different areas typically though.

     

    But yeah if you think faster and gather information faster all decisions will be more efficient which can lead to more opportunities sometimes perhaps. Similar to confidence. 

     

    But being near-sighted, and avoiding glasses use at it causes the visual cortex to become less efficient (despite helping people live longer) instead I would exercise my contrast vision playing fps games and turning down the brightness alot and then even wearing sunglasses on top of that, while on a treadmill and changing the sensitivity between minimum and maximum in a cod game before. Haven't gotten the treadmill in us lately though, being being physically healthy helps the brain too.

     

    And because of my split interests I am not pro level at any game despite having plenty of spare time, but this is I think probably the most information per second at top tiers and helps the visual cortex so may transfer to other areas more readily. Because I notice pros in a game learn new nuances in their games faster than casuals. This is due to experience of course so they know how to optimize it faster and have the habit of optimizing somewhat. So its not like if a new dlc character for a fighting game occurs they suddenly have to learn from scratch, they utilize similar behaviors and mechanics to learn faster from more correctly approximating their ranges of skills and the uses of them. But long story short, you need the attentiveness in order to notice how to optimize anyways, and know the limits of each mechanic or ability etc. 

     

    So I am not sure also, if learning alot of games, or mastering one is better, but I don't keep up regularly with my split interests but.

     

    Sorta rambling, but pros at reading for instance read 1,000 wpm. Thats 3x faster than what I am currently doing, 4-5x faster than the average. When I look at the data in a SC2 study for how often pros respond to new information, its 40 times a minute max, with people just starting to try and get good get 20 maximum. Granted sc2 has alot of data at once, and it involves planning in response to new information not just being a robot, and muscle memory through repetition ensures they go through the process faster. But, theres more range to improve with speed reading being 3x for me, rather than +33% give or take for me in sc2, and I already learned the roles of the units and such for the most part.

     

    Reading fiction also has alot more diverse content, which makes it less rigorous, but the variability in word use and contexts etc because theres a much higher ceiling on variation than even sc2 has, I figure it preps the mind to respond to various information faster, but half of this is me considering it now.

     

    I think its far simpler, like sc2 has a training program that can indirectly be used to exercise the 20-40 a minute number (PACs, perception action cycles) at higher than that, and in that game it can lag because it generates a new game state every half a second, and the games have recording for replays so too much goes on it starts to lag loading each state even with an ok desktop (1500$ desktop from a year ago, I tried value buys too). But this program can prolly run fine on a basic laptop, and it has a potentially higher quantity of exercising that PAC stuff than sc2 can.

     

    Granted its far less standardized or organized and its not even competitive, how would that work lol, so it snot one mind vs another mind exactly. But reading also reduces stress, when competitive games increase it. Also it helps empathy, so it might promote better comprehension of opponents anyways if you wanted to mindgame or predict. So I think its easier to get into, can do it for longer without as much issues (like from stress or RSI, repetitive stress injury), the mind has to prepare for a greater diversity of cognitive stimuli if you imagine it at once as well. It just seems like its a higher potential brain status increase. Also if you wanted you could probably read a fiction thats intentionally an exercise in imagination with it.

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  9. Isn't it hard to speed read though? Are you able to take in all the information you receive from reading every single word so fast? 

    I like challenging activities(Osu SC2 DevilDaggers SkullGirls) but I did a wpm (word per minute) reading test first and got 241 with 91% accuracy. Average for computer was something like 200wpm 60% accuracy, but I have alot of practice being meticulous, even if sometimes I misphrase things. My comprehension was high, probably due to reading when I was younger and excessive forum discussion time.

     

    So far with speed reading though I end up understanding what I read a second or so after I read it. Then sometimes I accidentally miss a word, but my peripheral vision deciphers what is is now when that happens. I also have enough time to daydream but daydreaming is more movement related sorta like you are producing the movie, instead of watching a movie, so its somewhat more real time, and I might not care to imagine some parts like meticulous details, or read some parts if its going very off on a tangent I don't particularly care about, like a more detailed explanation into what I already understood the first time. The imagination can be inconsistent, but I tend to dwell on the parts I enjoy more, rather than say imagining every lip movement.

     

    Also I view it as related to this study http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=3679I am somewhat busy tho so it might not be the precise article I wanted to share which was comparing it to turn based games which only improve accuracy not accuracy and speed. So I view it like playing speed chess compared to playing chess with no time limits. This means my processing for imagination will be just as accurate but get faster, thus I can cram more imagination per second.

     

    Also I didn't think reading would improve decision-making but I was wrong, because I need to choose which parts to imagine and for how long, so its probably the best thing I can do, if it were not for the dry eyes issue.

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  10. *Also when I use the word confusing I don't mean exactly the word confusing. I mean, it doesn't add up based on previous experiences, not thats its entirely a confusing thing. And in regards to the stifled curiosity bit, its more like filtered curiosity, same idea very much applies. Thats sorta what nomadic myths have in common as well to modern religions, is the far-fetchedness.

     

    But those ancient texts were made with different end results in mind that do not match up with today, and because it was dogma its not healthy, and because its excessively detached from reality people are not even promoted to think intelligently about the context outside of the simple end results they want, which were aligned with values from thousands of years ago. People who thought slavery and sexism and stoning people who work on the weekend. It was to promote solidarity through a lack of diversity, and to let people know the rules are serious and to reinforce that idea consistently in day to day life, because modern behavior didn't work back then and they didn't have the means to do so. But life has changed alot since then. Trying to fit that into modern society is like trying to promote fitting cave paintings into modern art as common-place. Fiction is superior to modern religion. The fact this is an mlp forum and not some theology story forum proves it. And religion is threatened by fiction, why else would they do things like burn Harry Potter books? They are trying to form a monopoly inherently, on science, media, fiction, music, etc. Other countries do it like some muslim ones. At least its being toned down, and christians had the age of enlightenment. And at least quality of life is on the rise, superstitious thinking on the decline. But thats like saying oh at least religion is only causing 3 stabs a month in this modern country, down from 5 stabs a month a decade ago, therefore religion is good! If it were good first off, religion wouldn't be associated with poverty, crime, low education, and low quality of life in the first place. Granted its a coping mechanism, its at an expense, and I am not quite sure what it offers. Either way fiction factually offers more, fiction helps reform inmates and improve their hiring rates, which decreases crime and decreases boredom which further decreases drug use and subsequent crime. Fiction is superior, out with the old, in with the new. Traditions are only good because people are slow learners and favor their operant conditioning from when they were young because its how they were raised to do things. Then people wield that scope around and try and fit everything into it's precisely shaped box instead of just getting more boxes, or engineering  abetter box, they push science in, religion falls out, they have to choose between one or the other, they choose religion because they don't know what good science will do. Its the same fallacy in videogaming where you don't buy better equipment, or organize better techniques because it takes too long to adjust to eh update to see if its worth while. Instead they just stick with whatever it was they were doing, which can work, until the time to update/adjust is too quick to not do so. In which case they end up jumping onto it anyways. Next thing you know your religion is historically different in practice every century, and they all insist its the same level of proper worship. Or that oh better yet god is above reality ergo religion doesn't have to make sense and we can distance it from ourselves, but oh we are still christian. Like how they disown the old testament because it contradicts their version of christianity. Its a psychological defense mechanism to distance yourself from it, because it'd cause cognitive dissonance if it were true. And everything points to the religious despising cognitive dissonance more readily and not taking the time to analyze stuff. Which is why the overworked are more likely to be religious, because America is overworked, AND they have higher religiosity. Overworked means dissonance causes stress more which causes brain damage more, and poverty areas have more crime which also means more stress etc etc etc. I can go on for days about this. I have gone on for days about this. I should stop for my sake lol. Theres a reason why they avoid dissonance, its unhealthy. But also maybe the more educated have more options for dealing with dissonance. Sorry for the rant.

  11. It takes two to tango, similarly its partially your responsibility if you want a relationship with them. If. You are not obligated to help them, you are not obligated to spend time with them, etc. Paying for them if they wouldn't do so for you is not good. Look up stuff like this http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-People-with-Subconscious-TechniquesBecause part of your focus seems obligation and expectation related, so either it was how you were raised, or how someone persuaded you. Also not to be rude or w/e, but when people use the term beta male, that is a stereotype and all, but its based on truth. Like the above link says try not to use sentences with 'um' and such. It shows more confidence. (here is a study about confidence http://www.livescience.com/8392-superstitions-bring-real-luck-study-reveals.html https://www.nap.edu/read/2303/chapter/13 )

     

    Also if you are stuck being the helper you may end up a doormat, its good to let them know you aren't just a helping robot through incidental operant conditioning. Also be aware of the conditioning others give you and you give them. It requires attention though so would be more difficult the more tired you are, but to reinforce the consistency of it its ok to ponder about it when tired too, shouldn't stop it early when it comes to mind.

     

    Also if you are the type to vocalize inconsistently, too much, or not enough consider that you may need to work on your expressiveness, and thats tied to confidence also anyways.

     

    Break a leg.

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