ManaMinori 4,146 July 30, 2014 Share July 30, 2014 Basically, I'm curious and wondering. If an animation error like Derpy's eyes can become cemented as canon in the fandom, and amongst the actual show staff, then why do Bronies so vehemently deny any other animation error as possibility to be or become canon? (all the Alicorn background pony animation errors, for instance)? Can it really be an animation error or mere coincidence, with as many times as we've seen these background Alicorns appear as Easter eggs? Can we really grill someone for making or having an Alicorn OC, if these Alicorn "animation errors" are, in fact, intentional? Who's to say what animation error makes canon status or not, like Derpy's eyes? Why is the fandom so dismissive that every other animation error is just that and doesn't matter, but Derpy's eyes get special treatment (even above all the background Alicorns, which somehow...still aren't canon?) 1 Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banul 3,831 July 30, 2014 Share July 30, 2014 Derpy is special because her eyes are now intentional. Its cannon because the show creators made it cannon. Otherwise, errors are just errors. More alicorns would be a pretty big deal, a bigger deal than can be placed in the background. That's why I don't think those cant really be considered cannon. Because its an actual error or oversight. And lets not forget this guy. I'm reasonably sure cyclops ponies aren't suppose to be cannon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Frostflame 3,568 July 30, 2014 Share July 30, 2014 no not really animation errors are expected especially for third party things like MLP they have to make a new episode every week so there will be a few errors in the animations And lets not forget this guy. I'm reasonably sure cyclops ponies aren't suppose to be cannon. what episode was he from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpitomeOfTruth 243 July 30, 2014 Share July 30, 2014 Your looking too much into it. Derpy became popular because of a large amount of positive feed back, een though it was just a mere animation error. All of the background alicorns are animation errors as well, but incorporating every accidental alicorn into the show would raise more questions than it answers. For example, Applejack's freckles are frequently forgotten. Would that mean that we would have to think about the fact that AJ may have migrating freckles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon 4,557 July 30, 2014 Share July 30, 2014 Can it really be an animation error or mere coincidence, with as many times as we've seen these background Alicorns appear as Easter eggs? Yes it can XD The thing is for background stuff they have tons of stock models and characters that they just sort of plop around in the background and edit a little to make it look like they've designed more characters than they have. That's why there are so many background characters that have the same mane and tail style and cutie mark... because they just edit colors and change races and put a new character back there. So because they're constantly doing quickly redesigned characters for the backgrounds, you end up with a couple problems. First of all is because they are designed with a lot less care and more quickly than a main character, you end up with errors. Someone adds a horn to make it a unicorn but forgets to take off the wings for example. The other problem is that because they reuse these characters constantly, they can put a character with a mistake in several episodes before realizing the mistake, and by then it's not cost effective to go reanimate all the episodes, so they just leave Alicorn Background Pony in there... It doesn't mean they're intentionally adding them, it's just the nature of background characters that they're going to have mistakes. As for how these errors differ from something like Derpy, it's just whether or not the show adopts them. If we had some background Alicorn the fandom fell in love with for some reason, and the show decided to make that character canon, then they'd be canon. That's what happened with Derpy... but until they start intentionally adding that character to episodes, coming out with merch, or in some other way indicating that it's a canon character, they're just going to be treated as what they are which is an animation error. Plus you also have to remember that Derpy wasn't an animation error... she was a joke that was put in by an animator. They intentionally made her eyes like that, it just wasn't planned by the directors or writers or anything. So that's a big difference as well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMinori 4,146 July 30, 2014 Author Share July 30, 2014 Derpy is special because her eyes are now intentional. Its cannon because the show creators made it cannon. Otherwise, errors are just errors. More alicorns would be a pretty big deal, a bigger deal than can be placed in the background. That's why I don't think those cant really be considered cannon. Because its an actual error or oversight. And lets not forget this guy. I'm reasonably sure cyclops ponies aren't suppose to be cannon. well there was a cyclops pony in G2......what if this guy's a descendant?yeah, Derpy's eyes are NOW intentional, what of the alicorns? Are they? (the first one might've been an error, but they keep being seen, so could it really be the same mistake, or intentionally done by the artists?) And going back to Derpy's eyes, they're only now intentional because the fandom made such a fuss over them, to begin with. When it comes to the alicorn errors, on the other hoof, it seems everyone's quick to do little other than casually point them out as errors and not make enough of a stink about them to make them canon? (is it due the fact that there's too many alicorns up front and center being princesses?) Whether that does play some role in it or not, (though I hope it doesn't), I would, for one, like the more easter Egg alicorns, as it would prove that they do exist within normal society and aren't limited to being royals or even main characters; and would also give more support to the canon in the journal, that other alicorns existed even when Celly and Luna were fillies, and haven't disappeared off the face of the earth, leaving only the celestial sisters. Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A goat 323 July 31, 2014 Share July 31, 2014 I'm pretty sure derpy's eyes will be the only animation error that's canon is derpy's eyes. I highly doubt any other animation error will ever be canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 August 1, 2014 Share August 1, 2014 Ehh no thanks, I don't want to see more of Princess Erroria. Derpy was an exception. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,162 August 1, 2014 Share August 1, 2014 I would say no; they are not canon. Derpy was just a special exception whereas the blue cyclops was just a split-second animation error that looked rather hilarious if you could catch it. no not really animation errors are expected especially for third party things like MLP they have to make a new episode every week so there will be a few errors in the animations what episode was he from The Best Night Ever when Rarity is using her charm to convince two stallions to pull the carriage. 1 Pathfinder I Sojourner I Corsair | Zu'hra I Autumn | Scarlet Willow | Gypsy | Silverthorn | Crystal Whisper | Radiant Historia | And many other OCs~ Matching signatures with mah Bestie MOONLIGHT <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStarApple 850 August 1, 2014 Share August 1, 2014 Ehh no thanks, I don't want to see more of Princess Erroria. Derpy was an exception. Pretty sure her early Alicornination was some kind of mutation resulting in both parts being at half-strength, not somehow being such an epic prodigy that she gained Alicornication before Twilight. Alternately, her parents forced her through every Alicornination thing possible at a young age, forcing her to achieve the required enlightenment without regard for her mental state or powers. Therefore, she's in school, and not working for/studying under Celestia right away. This is my headcanon, and I call dibs on it forever. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was akin to a slow death. If I must live as I did before then... -Lelouch, Code Geass - My NEW DeviantART: http://SilverStarApple.deviantart.com/Want to make money for being an AWESOME PONY? https://www.tsu.co/Epsilon725 My fanfic, starring Silver Star Apple: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/224996/the-shining-silver-star-of-the-apple-family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygen 6,066 August 1, 2014 Share August 1, 2014 No, i wouldn't say that animations errors are cannon, the only reason derpy's eyes became cannon is due to the fans noticing it, and liking it, and the animators purposely leaving it in afterwards. Most everything else that happens would make no sense if it was cannon as far as animation errors go, You can't explain some of them in a cannon logical way in the first place, like disappearing body parts, or horns or wings, or a bunch of random background Alicorns, there are so many that just aren't able to be applied to logic that putting them into cannon would just make the cannon look like a laughable mess. So no, I don't consider animation errors cannon, and I don't think most others do either. Thanks to Gone Airbourne for the awesome sig! My Oc's, Ponysona, Bella Vocal Covers Blog, MLP Covers Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windseeker 546 August 1, 2014 Share August 1, 2014 Pretty sure her early Alicornination was some kind of mutation resulting in both parts being at half-strength, not somehow being such an epic prodigy that she gained Alicornication before Twilight. Alternately, her parents forced her through every Alicornination thing possible at a young age, forcing her to achieve the required enlightenment without regard for her mental state or powers. Therefore, she's in school, and not working for/studying under Celestia right away. This is my headcanon, and I call dibs on it forever. Unfortunately, the most of the fandom would disagree as they likely have their own fantasies to substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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