movies/tv Superman VS Twilight Sparkle

[Roughshod 719]

Nah, no need. Twilight > Superman.

I'm (not) sorry to tell you this, but you're mistaken. Even in the aspect of Mary Sue-ism she cannot defeat the Man of Steel. Superman is archetype incarnate. Heyo!

[Adorkable 2,737]

Not particularly. Just throwing damage aside for a second, Superman outspeeds Twilight Sparkle by powers. No exaggeration, It's to the point where Superman can fire off a thousand+ punches before Twilight could process a thought, and the resulting blast still wouldn't hit him.

 

The reason I made this thread was due to the acknowledgement of Superman having a weakness or no resistance to Magic. Twilight is like..110% Magic, bro. I think 4x Alicorn magic powered Twilight could give him a run for his bits.

[Fractured 2,684]

The reason I made this thread was due to the acknowledgement of Superman having a weakness or no resistance to Magic. Twilight is like..110% Magic, bro. I think 4x Alicorn magic powered Twilight could give him a run for his bits.

Superman commonly and casually travels interstellar differences

Twilight still has to take a train to get across Equestria

 

Granted, if she could hit him, he wouldn't like it at all(considering a magical moon explosion had a chance to kill him), but she has no way of doing that. For every one action Twilight takes, she's going to be receiving thousands upon thousands of (at a minimum) planet destroying punches, and she still won't hit him.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Shimmer5000

[Adorkable 2,737]

Twilight still has to take a train to get across Equestria

 

I'm sure that's of choice, lol. She could fly or warp anywhere she wanted to.

[Fractured 2,684]

I'm sure that's of choice, lol. She could fly or warp anywhere she wanted to.

It took hours to fly Discord to the end of Equestria(It went from high day to nearly sundown). Neither of those are anywhere close to the amount of speed she needs to contend here. It took her and her friends minutes to get through the Everfree forest. She's not putting out anywhere near the speed that would allow her to hang with Superman.

[Adorkable 2,737]

She's not putting out anywhere near the speed that would allow her to hang with Superman.

 

I didn't say she was as fast as Superman.  -_-

[Fractured 2,684]

I didn't say she was as fast as Superman.  -_-

Then there's no way she can really compete. While I agree she can hurt him, the actual fight is not in Twilight's favor.

[Roughshod 719]

I didn't say she was as fast as Superman. -_-

You did state that she could both fly and teleport distances which would obviously make travelling faster:

 

I'm sure that's of choice, lol. She could fly or warp anywhere she wanted to.

Superman commonly and casually travels interstellar differences

Twilight still has to take a train to get across Equestria

 

Granted, if she could hit him, he wouldn't like it at all(considering a magical moon explosion had a chance to kill him), but she has no way of doing that. For every one action Twilight takes, she's going to be receiving thousands upon thousands of (at a minimum) planet destroying punches, and she still won't hit him.

And as Shimmer5000 stated, speed would clearly be an enormous factor when dealing with an entity like Superman.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Roughshod

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

Since it is proven canon that Twilight has the ability to teleport objects independent of her body, it would be quite easy to best the man of steel. If she can teleport two living beings to opposite sides of the room simultaneously without breaking a sweat, why wouldn't she be able to teleport a piece of Kryptonite the size of a grain of sand directly into his brain? Or one the size of her hoof into his heart? How about simply teleporting his brain two feet away from his body?

 

 

 

 

[Fractured 2,684]

Since it is proven canon that Twilight has the ability to teleport objects independent of her body, it would be quite easy to best the man of steel. If she can teleport two living beings to opposite sides of the room simultaneously without breaking a sweat, why wouldn't she be able to teleport a piece of Kryptonite the size of a grain of sand directly into his brain? Or one the size of her hoof into his heart? How about simply teleporting his brain two feet away from his body?

Because Twilight Sparkle, being generous, can move at anywhere from 100mph to barely touching supersonic. That's fast, moving in the hundreds of miliseconds or so in time, 10^-1

 

Superman can react to and move at speeds of at least the nanosecond.

That's 10^-9, or one-billionth of a second. There's no teleporting, no magic... there's not even a fight. Relative to Superman, Twilight Sparkle is completely motionless. Relative to Twilight Sparkle, Superman disappears because her eyes can't move fast enough to keep track of him.

 

Superman will have hit her at least a million times before she realizes she's been attacked. Twilight Sparkle will have died somewhere going on hit two or three.

[Hive King 2,001]

Heck Superman has also gotten his butt kicked by people who were nothing more than mere humans inside power suits...

They're either using Kryptonie or it's PIS

 

 

Goku is featless compared to Superman? Ha I think not. Did Superman die to save the world twice? Did Superman ever fight somebody like Frieza who could destroy entire planets with just one finger? Or Perfect Cell who could destroy an entire Solar System? And then there's Majin Buu who's power literally threatened the entire universe. He could teleport anywhere instantly and destroy anything in space and then revert completely unharmed even though his body gets destroyed into molecules. And let's not forget the mighty Lord Beerus and Whis.

Literally all of those except for Beers and Whis are absolute garbage. Base Goku in the Boo Saga struggles with 40 tons, that means Freeza is out of the picture. An SSJ3 Kamehameha only destroyed 1/10 of the Earth when bounced by Fat Boo. DBZ characters have shitty AOE, barring Beers.

 

But if we're talking about any of the later versions of Superman from the comics like Pre-Crisis or the any of ones who sneezed away galaxies and/or pushed planets and universes etc. then yeah Goku is fucked.

You mean every Superman once his power level was pinned down to a T? Yeah, what a great achivement

 

I love DBZ, but no one in it can hurt Superman physically and no one is fast enough to hit him anyway. 

 

Also, Doomsday puts anyone in DBZ to shame, comparing him to them is not fair

 

Back on topic, the amount of fanboys here is staggering. Superman is a tough guy, he stomps the people suggested in this thread. There are people who can beat Superman, but they are not in this thread

 

 

It's not really Twilight anyway, unless they're going to pull an SSG explanation on us and she naturally absorbed alicorn powers. Second best version of Twilight still doesn't come close to hurting him.

Eh, technically, using that is kind of like using Post Absorption Imperfect Cell, where he went from getting owned by Piccolo to wtf stomping him while tanking his attack. Just nitpicking though

 

Also, I applaud your keeping up the good fight whilst I sleep 

Edited November 14, 2014 by Hive King

[Fractured 2,684]

Also, I applaud your keeping up the good fight whilst I sleep 

This is why people should specify versions. Most common Superman, DCAU:

actually loses badly here. So does the Man of Steel:

and the movie versions that I can remember.

 

Smallville Superman crushes:

And so does any of the comic Superman's bar the depowered one.

It's all just a matter of who this thread's talking about.

[Hive King 2,001]

@,

I thought you assume Post Crisis for DC and 616 for Marvel, right? As for Man of Steel, we haven't seen him against magic, he might not have that weakness. He'd lose if he does have it though and DCAU Superman is fodder who gets blown over by stiff wind.

 

I think Golden Age Superman loses as well, the one who couldn't fly and was even weaker than DCAU.

 

Hell, there are other Superman that are animated that can win, the one from Superman vs the Elite for example can still stomp Twilight via draining the air from her lungs or lobotomizing her(or horn)

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

Because Twilight Sparkle, being generous, can move at anywhere from 100mph to barely touching supersonic. That's fast, moving in the hundreds of miliseconds or so in time, 10^-1

 

Superman can react to and move at speeds of at least the nanosecond.

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That's 10^-9, or one-billionth of a second. There's no teleporting, no magic... there's not even a fight. Relative to Superman, Twilight Sparkle is completely motionless. Relative to Twilight Sparkle, Superman disappears because her eyes can't move fast enough to keep track of him.

 

Superman will have hit her at least a million times before she realizes she's been attacked. Twilight Sparkle will have died somewhere going on hit two or three.

 

Superman would say...

"Why look, the pony's horn is glowing I wonder what that...Gah!" and then fall over. The element of surprise. It's your friend! 

[Fractured 2,684]

@,

I thought you assume Post Crisis for DC and 616 for Marvel, right? As for Man of Steel, we haven't seen him against magic, he might not have that weakness. He'd lose if he does have it though and DCAU Superman is fodder who gets blown over by stiff wind.

 

I think Golden Age Superman loses as well, the one who couldn't fly and was even weaker than DCAU.

 

Hell, there are other Superman that are animated that can win, the one from Superman vs the Elite for example can still stomp Twilight via draining the air from her lungs or lobotomizing her(or horn)

If you're not specifically into debating, DCAU is the most common one people tend to think of when they think Superman. Like in DBZ battles, for instance, this tends to come up a lot:

 

Superman:, Elite, Superman: All Star, and Superman: Unbound(the strongest animated Superman to date) win here. That's pretty much the highest you get, though, with the rest generally being unable to destroy cities, and being really, really slow(speed of sound-ish).

And yeah, early Golden Age loses , although I thought he eventually became pre-crisis supes, which is why I didn't include him.

[Hive King 2,001]

Superman would say...

"Why look, the pony's horn is glowing I wonder what that...Gah!" and then fall over. The element of surprise. It's your friend! 

....You act like Superman is an idiot. The guy doesn't tank lasers if he doesn't know what they are. Not to mention that he can survive one laser. Also, the instant its fired, he can dodge before it reaches him

@,

Agreed in that respect. I wonder who jobs more, Golden Age Superman or DCAU Superman? 

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

....You act like Superman is an idiot. The guy doesn't tank lasers if he doesn't know what they are. Not to mention that he can survive one laser. Also, the instant its fired, he can dodge before it reaches him

@,

Agreed in that respect. I wonder who jobs more, Golden Age Superman or DCAU Superman? 

If Superman is so all fired fast, how come HE never made a sonic rainboom? Besides, do you think Twilight would go into this without shielding herself? You also claim that Superman can move faster than light. Just imagine if you will, what would happen if he tried to move faster than light within a planetary atmosphere. Twilight is a being of magic, in a world governed by magic. Superman is not. Actually, he pretty much is. There is no basis in science for the stuff he does.  X-ray vision? How many people has he given the big "C" to? His flying is a basic levitation spell. All of his powers are supposed to be because our sun is a DIFFERENT COLOR than the one he was born under. How does that even work?

 

I do admit one thing. I don't know what you mean by "The guy doesn't tank lasers if he doesn't know what they are." Either you misspelled something, or it's a term I'm totally unfamiliar with.

Edited November 15, 2014 by cuteycindyhoney

[Fractured 2,684]

....You act like Superman is an idiot. The guy doesn't tank lasers if he doesn't know what they are. Not to mention that he can survive one laser. Also, the instant its fired, he can dodge before it reaches him

@,

Agreed in that respect. I wonder who jobs more, Golden Age Superman or DCAU Superman? 

The entirety of DCAU was incredibly inconsistent. In the last episode, you have Batman staggering Darkseid twice and dodging Omega beams. The same Darkseid that can supposedly survive nukes. Cut to Green Lantern, who nearly dies from the explosion of a casino even after he contained most of the blast. At least Golden Age can be summed up as a natural progression to Silver Age, so it's not so much "jobbing" as "evolving".

 

1: If Superman is so all fired fast, how come HE never made a sonic rainboom? 2: Besides, do you think Twilight would go into this without shielding herself? You also claim that Superman can move faster than light. Just imagine if you will, what would happen if he tried to move faster than light within a planetary atmosphere. Twilight is a being of magic, in a world governed by magic. Superman is not. Actually, he pretty much is. There is no basis in science for the stuff he does.  X-ray vision? How many people has he given the big "C" to? His flying is a basic levitation spell.

Well, to your first question, sonic booms in fiction are really just tropes. Plenty of shows have faster than sound characters without having sonic booms, like Marvel, DC, Doctor Who, etc.

 

Like I said before, though, this fight is inconclusive. OP(original poster) never specified which Superman, and some versions win while others don't, so it's impossible to actually claim a victor here.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Shimmer5000

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

If Superman is so all fired fast, how come HE never made a sonic rainboom?

 

....I....@, can you please explain to her?

 

 

Besides, do you think Twilight would go into this without shielding herself?

I do, she's not the combat genius you paint her out to be. Not that it matters much, he'll pop her shield like a pimple. She doesn't have any good shield feats

 

 

You also claim that Superman can move faster than light. Just imagine if you will, what would happen if he tried to move faster than light within a planetary atmosphere. Twilight is a being of magic, in a world governed by magic. Superman is not.

Wow, this is sinking to new levels of low

"Superman doesn't move at the speed of light because his world is too realistic!".

Yes, a world with an alien who looks exactly like a human in red and blue tights is realistic

 

 

There is no basis in science for the stuff he does.  X-ray vision? How many people has he given the big "C" to? His flying is a basic levitation spell.

I get the feeling you just hate Superman for some reason. You're tossing out science as to why he can't do what he can do and not doing the same for Twilight. Superman's world has magic too

The entirety of DCAU was incredibly inconsistent. In the last episode, you have Batman staggering Darkseid twice and dodging Omega beams. The same Darkseid that can supposedly survive nukes. Cut to Green Lantern, who nearly dies from the explosion of a casino even after he contained most of the blast. At least Golden Age can be summed up as a natural progression to Silver Age, so it's not so much "jobbing" as "evolving".

 

Well, to your first question, sonic booms in fiction are really just tropes. Plenty of shows have faster than sound characters without having sonic booms, like Marvel, DC, Doctor Who, etc.

 

Like I said before, though, this fight is inconclusive. OP(original poster) never specified which Superman, and some versions win while others don't, so it's impossible to actually claim a victor here.

Majority of Supermen win and typically current versions in the main universe are assumed, which means Superman can ko Twilight by lightly tapping her. 

[Fractured 2,684]

Majority of Supermen win and typically current versions in the main universe are assumed, which means Superman can ko Twilight by lightly tapping her. 

By general consensus, which doesn't exist here.

 

Anyway, i'd rather just label it inconclusive, since I don't want to spend an eternity fighting about this if we're secretly arguing two different Superman. No pairing of characters in this match- up is fair to anybody, so i'd rather let this thread die then spend an eternity arguing the obvious match-ups. Nine pages is too long for any Superman vs Twilight Sparkle fight.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Shimmer5000

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

....I....@, can you please explain to her?

 

 

I do, she's not the combat genius you paint her out to be. Not that it matters much, he'll pop her shield like a pimple. She doesn't have any good shield feats

 

 

Wow, this is sinking to new levels of low

"Superman doesn't move at the speed of light because his world is too realistic!".

Yes, a world with an alien who looks exactly like a human in red and blue tights is realistic

 

 

I get the feeling you just hate Superman for some reason. You're tossing out science as to why he can't do what he can do and not doing the same for Twilight. Superman's world has magic too

Majority of Supermen win and typically current versions in the main universe are assumed, which means Superman can ko Twilight by lightly tapping her. 

I don't hate Superman! You're just taking this far FAR to seriously. Besides, Starfire from the Teen Titans animated series (Not Teen Titans GO...Ew) beats Superman any day. I don't mean in a fight. She's just a BETTER super powered alien. She's a princess too. To top it off, she's sexy and adorable!

(Yeah...Girl-crush, sue me!)

Now I ask you this. Would Superman look this good in a bikini?

Starfire would never want to fight Twilight. Star would want to befriend her, and go to the mall of shopping and then do the hair braiding with her.

 

Supergirl is pretty hot too.

 

[Hive King 2,001]

@@cuteycindyhoney, 

Of course Starfire wouldn't fight, she's a good guy. Hell, Superman probably wouldn't fight either, unless he believes Twilight is a villain through misunderstanding, like here

But yes, barring unfortunate incidents like that(every hero has had them once), he wouldn't battle Twilight unless under mind control, even then, he holds back

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

@@cuteycindyhoney, 

Of course Starfire wouldn't fight, she's a good guy. Hell, Superman probably wouldn't fight either, unless he believes Twilight is a villain through misunderstanding, like here

But yes, barring unfortunate incidents like that(every hero has had them once), he wouldn't battle Twilight unless under mind control, even then, he holds back

I almost forgot to mention it. Go read Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex". It's well worth the read! I'd link to it, but it's a bit adult. It's very easy to find a free copy online though.

 

[Hive King 2,001]

@@cuteycindyhoney,

This is off topic as all hell, but the general justification is that Superman is just THAT good at self control. It's how when even under mind control, he doesn't kill Batman. It's how even under mind control, he tries to save innocents 

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

They're either using Kryptonie or it's PIS

What is "PIS" ?

 

Literally all of those except for Beers and Whis are absolute garbage. Base Goku in the Boo Saga struggles with 40 tons, that means Freeza is out of the picture. An SSJ3 Kamehameha only destroyed 1/10 of the Earth when bounced by Fat Boo. DBZ characters have shitty AOE, barring Beers.

What does "AOE" mean?

 

You mean every Superman once his power level was pinned down to a T? Yeah, what a great achivement

 

I love DBZ, but no one in it can hurt Superman physically and no one is fast enough to hit him anyway. 

 

Also, Doomsday puts anyone in DBZ to shame, comparing him to them is not fair

You truly believe that all versions of Superman are far more powerful than anyone in DBZ and can't be hurt by any of them? That's hilarious...I cannot even begin to describe how wrong that is...

 

Goku would MURDER the earlier versions of Superman. Lots of people say Superman's invincible but as I said that's not true. Superman DID bleed and show signs of damage when he fought with Doomsday and Darkseid. And it's also been proven that he's vulnerable to magic as shown from his battles with Shazam and Black Adam etc. Which essentially means that a Kamehameha could hurt him. And it's been proven that pretty much anyone who has Superstrength can damage Superman if they hit him. And Goku can benchpress an entire planet.

 

I don't even need to watch a video or read any blogs to know that Goku beats the earlier versions of Superman hands down. When you can find a video or something showing Superman from the movies or cartoons being able to destroy a whole planet with just one finger, or even fight someone as powerful as Majin Buu for that matter let me know. In the mean time, I'll be watching Goku in Super Saiyan 3 beating Majin Buu by the antenna on his head.

 

I'd really love to see Superman go through all the crap that Goku has. They should make a video with Superman fighting Super Saiyan God Goku if they think that Superman can beat Goku because quite a few things in that fight didn't even work like slapping SSJ4 Goku at the end when he had no tail and was not GT Goku. And even if Superman can destroy a planet how much effort does he have to put into it to do it?

 

I admit I'm a Goku Fanboy when it comes down to it but I'm not being biased by any means. Even if I preferred Superman I would still think Goku was stronger. Goku beat people that could literally destroy an entire solar system in seconds. When did Superman ever do something like that?

 

But before anyone replies to this, again, keep in mind that I'm referring to the earlier versions of Superman like the ones from the movies and the cartoons. Not the later versions or the more powerful ones from the comics. They don't count because they had help from things like Myxz's Dust etc. And I know that they would obviously beat Goku.