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And Massive news out of CyberFight Fest

 

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And the news keeps comin'!~

Breaking out of NJPW Dominion ! The G1 Climax is back and it's getting a new layout for the 50th anniversary celebration. Instead of two blocks of ten, it is now four blocks  of seven. That's right! The biggest G1 ever with 28 people! 

And the entrants have been revealed! 

 

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Hey.

Were you ever curious about All Japan. The 5 star titan of wrestling in the 90s that seemed to go all over the place once the 21st century hit? Well wonder no more!

 

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AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door is so close to us now and I'm so excited about this event.

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And breaking news!

Vince McMahon has "stepped down" from his role as the CEO and chairman of WWE. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Vince McMahon has "stepped down" from his role as the CEO and chairman of WWE. 

 

Temporarily. 

What purpose does it serve bringing this to light on SmackDown with Vince in character as "Mr. McMahon"? That doesn't make any sense to me. 

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1 minute ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Temporarily. 

What purpose does it serve bringing this to light on SmackDown with Vince in character as "Mr. McMahon"? That doesn't make any sense to me. 

I say stepped down. He's still running creative. Steph is now the public face of the company and most likely the patsy once this all blows over. Nick Khan will take charge, but Vinny Jr will still dictate orders from afar. 

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3 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

I say stepped down. He's still running creative. Steph is now the public face of the company and most likely the patsy once this all blows over. Nick Khan will take charge, but Vinny Jr will still dictate orders from afar. 

 

I thought the patsy was Big Johnny. 

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45 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

I thought the patsy was Big Johnny. 

Nah. Unlike Steph, he's too much of a useful yes man for Vinny to let go of for too long. He rehired this guy nine years after he was let go. He's standing atop the mountain with Vinny and Brother Love or he's gonna fall off the cliff with them. 

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52 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Nah. Unlike Steph, he's too much of a useful yes man for Vinny to let go of for too long. He rehired this guy nine years after he was let go. He's standing atop the mountain with Vinny and Brother Love or he's gonna fall off the cliff with them. 

 

Do you think this will lead to WWE being sold or the beginning of its demise? 

 

Rest in Peace, Dave Hebner. May your legacy live on.  

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12 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Do you think this will lead to WWE being sold or the beginning of its demise? 

 

Rest in Peace, Dave Hebner. May your legacy live on.  

Doubt it. WWE makes too much money for Fox & Universal. They'll exert a bit more control but other than a reshuffling, they'll look to rugsweep this. 

And which Hebner was he? The original or the twin? 

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1 minute ago, Denim&Venöm said:

And which Hebner was he? The original or the twin? 

 

I'm not sure. 

 

2 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Doubt it. WWE makes too much money for Fox & Universal. They'll exert a bit more control but other than a reshuffling, they'll look to rugsweep this. 

 

That's true. 

What's changing if Vince is still going to be doing things behind the scenes, his name wont be on an office door at WWE Headquarters? 

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3 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

What's changing if Vince is still going to be doing things behind the scenes, his name wont be on an office door at WWE Headquarters?

Nothing. Vinny has stayed on top because his company, despite it's deep flaws, is a financial success. His ability to take wrestling, something that can attract a small but fiercely loyal fan base, and make it attractive to a broader, more casual audience that won't scrutinize it, cannot be underestimated. Wrestling isn't episodic in the minds of most WWE fans. What happened last week doesn't have a baring on the next week. They watch, tune out then do something else till next week. It's perfect. That success will be attributed to Vinny's successor, with the casual fan or even investor none the wiser. 

Hey if dumpster fires like EA, Comcast and Nestlie can survive, for WWE this will be a walk in the park. 

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2 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Nothing.

 

Then there's no point in "Mr. McMahon" bringing it up on SmackDown. Especially, if WWE want to keep this as quiet as possible. 

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34 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Then there's no point in "Mr. McMahon" bringing it up on SmackDown. Especially, if WWE want to keep this as quiet as possible. 

There is a point.

Ratings. 

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57 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

There is a point.

Ratings. 

 

Are ratings even relevant to WWE anymore? 

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49 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Are ratings even relevant to WWE anymore? 

Yes. Ratings = greater ad revenue. 

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14 hours ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Yes. Ratings = greater ad revenue. 

I meant in the case of the quality Raw, SmackDown and NXT as TV show

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11 hours ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

I meant in the case of the quality Raw, SmackDown and NXT as TV shows.

Nope. But then again, little they do ever contributes.

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50 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Nope. But then again, little they do ever contributes.

 

I miss the days when WWE's developmental weren't all on TV and debuts would actually surprise me because I didn't know who the wrestler was. 

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Yeah the lack of brand split makes everything feel like the same show. Pair that with the forbidden door and both debuts and show jumps just feel so passe. 

Who gives a crap about legada del phantasma showing up when New Japans united empire just crashed AEW?

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43 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

Yeah the lack of brand split makes everything feel like the same show. Pair that with the forbidden door and both debuts and show jumps just feel so passe. 

 

It also doesn't help me to care when a lot of WWE's talent don't seem particularly interesting nowadays. 

Plus, a lot of moves look slower to me which, makes sense to lower the risk of injury but a lot of moves nowadays seem less impactful

than it used to be.

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43 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

It also doesn't help me to care when a lot of WWE's talent don't seem particularly interesting nowadays. 

Plus, a lot of moves look slower to me which, makes sense to lower the risk of injury but a lot of moves nowadays seem less impactful

than it used to be.

That can be boiled down to a rigid script and no practice with improv. And slower moves are cause the match is in service to the story, not vice versa. A brutal road schedule that'd make the kings road guys cringe doesn't help. 

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55 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

That can be boiled down to a rigid script and no practice with improv.

 

True.

 

55 minutes ago, Denim&Venöm said:

And slower moves are cause the match is in service to the story, not vice versa. A brutal road schedule that'd make the kings road guys cringe doesn't help. 

 

I understand. I guess it's also how good/brutal the wrestlers make the moves look while performing them. 

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57 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

True.

 

 

I understand. I guess it's also how good/brutal the wrestlers make the moves look while performing them. 

Their production style is also a hindrance. With everything so regimented and rehearsed, yet extremely sloppy direction thanks to camera cuts Kevin, nothing will look good, so why bother?