Any Pro-Wrestling Fans Around?

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

I wouldn't say it's completely boring. Shane vs Taker. Money in the Bank. Royal Rumble. All of the Team Hell No segments. Randy's car being destroyed two separate times.

 

I over exaggerated a bit there, I apologize. I haven't watched a full WWE show since the Smackdown where AJ Styles cost Dolph Ziggler a title shot.

 

 

 

Attitude Era was still the best, though. 

 

 

I'd say until Unforgiven 2006 for me. (Trish Stratus's retirement match)  But, I'm biased. 

Edited September 10, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

-Geroge Hackneschmidt

-Frank Gotch

-Stan Hansen

-Ed 'Strangler' Lewis 

-Pat O'Connor

-The Freebirds 

All of these guys got inducted this year.

 

 

-The Von Erichs

Inducted in 2009.

I over exaggerated a bit there, I apologize. I haven't watched a full WWE show since the Smackdown where AJ Styles cost Dolph Ziggler a title shot.

I haven't seen a full show in years.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Evans Blue

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

To that, I have this reply.

 

 

The thing is I don't really care all that much about blood and cussing and the "TV 14" stuff.

 

I just feel like the stories and characters aren't interesting enough to me to hold my attention because a lot of the guys I see look, act and wrestle similarly, IMO. 

 

 

I haven't seen a full show in years.

 

 

I try to watch the Raws after each of "The Big 4" PPVS but,

 

I just can't bring myself to care about any one of these new people and it's not because I'm an

"Attitude Era mark".

 

Ugh, I hate when people say that.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[Denim&Venöm 19,078]

 

 

All of these guys got inducted this year.  

 

Stan Hansen did. Not anyone else there. But you're right about Hansen and The Von Erichs

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

 

 

Stan Hansen did. Not anyone else there. But you're right about Hansen and The Von Erichs

 

Is Gene Kiniski already in? 

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

Stan Hansen did. Not anyone else there. But you're right about Hansen and The Von Erichs

Umm....then how do you explain this?

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwe-hall-fame/wwe-hall-fame-2016

[Denim&Venöm 19,078]

Umm....then how do you explain this?

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwe-hall-fame/wwe-hall-fame-2016

Okay fine. And the free birds but still no

 

-Geroge Hackneschmidt

-Frank Gotch

-Ed 'Strangler' Lewis 

-Pat O'Connor

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

Okay fine. And the free birds but still no

 

-Geroge Hackneschmidt

-Frank Gotch

-Ed 'Strangler' Lewis 

-Pat O'Connor

They're in the Legacy Inducties section.

[Denim&Venöm 19,078]

They're in the Legacy Inducties section.

There. Fixed. Sorry I don't keep up with all the new editions and sub editions to the HOF. 

 

Last time I ever do research for this thread. 

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

Ok, what are your opinions on John Cena?

 

Personally, I like John Cena.

 

I think he's good on the mic and passable enough in the ring to deserve the accolades he's achieved.

 

Not to mention the amount of charity work he does.

*Let the booing and hurling of insults commence* 

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

Ok, what are your opinions on John Cena?

 

Personally, I like John Cena.

 

I think he's good on the mic and passable enough in the ring to deserve the accolades he's achieved.

 

Not to mention the amount of charity work he does.

*Let the booing and hurling of insults commence* 

John's a great guy. He just needs to turn heel and expand his moveset.

[Castle Bleck 19,374]

Ok, what are your opinions on John Cena?

 

Personally, I like John Cena.

 

I think he's good on the mic and passable enough in the ring to deserve the accolades he's achieved.

 

Not to mention the amount of charity work he does.

*Let the booing and hurling of insults commence* 

 

He needs to go back to being "The Doctor Of Thuganomics" and/or start actually putting some people over, though.

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

John's a great guy. He just needs to turn heel and expand his moveset.

 

 But, he already does Hurricanrana's, Springboard Stunners and Yoshi Tonics, what more could you possibly want?! JK  

 

He needs to go back to being "The Doctor Of Thuganomics" and/or start actually putting some people over, though.

 

 

He was pretty funny when he was rapping and He's kinda put over AJ Styles twice and...Cena's gonna win the rubber match, isn't he?   

 

Unless, we all pray to "The Wrestling God" JBL, that is, ha, ha. 

Edited September 10, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[Castle Bleck 19,374]

Admittedly, I do like Cena's Famouser-type move from the top rope:

 

 

However, Regal still has best STF:

 

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

 But, he already does Hurricanrana's, Springboard Stunners and Yoshi Tonics, what more could you possibly want?! JK  

You know what I'm referring to. The 5 moves of doom. 

 

 He was pretty funny when he was rapping and He's kinda put over AJ Styles twice and...Cena's gonna win the rubber match. 

That would be a perfect time to turn him heel. Unless Styles is the heel.

 

However, Regal still has best STF:

 

Regal's STF is a cross-legged STF. Cena's is a single leg STF.

 

Of course the Regal stretch looks better.

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

You know what I'm referring to. The 5 moves of doom. 

 

Yes, of course I do. That's why I put the "JK". 

 

However, Regal still has best STF:

 

 

That move is a thing of beauty. 

Edited September 10, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[BrawnyCharger 513]

Who do you think should be in the Hall of Fame?

 

How about these:

 

-Dynamite Kid

-British Bulldog

-Owen Hart

-Brian Pillman

-Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart

-Rick Rude

-Vader

-Sid Vicious

-Ivan Koloff

-Nikita Koloff

-Jim Cornette

-Miss Elizabeth

-Demolition

-Honky Tonk Man

-Lex Luger

-Great Muta

-Rock & Roll Express

-Midnight Express

-Steiner Brothers

-King Kong Bundy

-Rick Martel

-Jushin "Thunder" Liger

-"Dr. Death" Steve Williams

-Bam Bam Bigelow

-Baron Von Raschke

-One Man Gang

-Mike Rotundo

-Sabu

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

That move is a thing of beauty. 

Nah. That honor belongs to the Diamond Cutter or the Molly Go Round

 

 

-Owen Hart

Owen's wife won't allow that.

[Castle Bleck 19,374]

The Undertaker is quite a few years overdue for the HOF.

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

Nah. That honor belongs to the Diamond Cutter or the Molly Go Round  

 

I would also put AJ Styles "Pelé Kick"  &  "Spiral Tap" on my list as well: 

 

 

and while we're on the subject of John Cena, I don't understand the reason the "Attitude Adjustment" gets hated on so much.

 

I like to believe one of the reasons the "AA" is a "Glorified Fireman's Carry" and not a traditional

"Death Valley Driver" is because they're trying to minimize the possibility of an injury to the wrestlers

necks and heads. 

 

Edited September 11, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

Favorite Finishers:

Diamond Cutter (DDP)

Choke Slam from Hell (Kane)

Molly Go Round (Molly Holly)

Angle Slam (Kurt Angle)

Jackhammer (Goldberg)

3D (Dudleys)

Go To Sleep (CM Punk)

People's Elbow (The Rock)

The Worm (Scotty 2 Hotty)

Stone Cold Stunner (Stone Cold Steve Austin)

Coast to Coast (Shane O Mac)

C4 (John Morrison)

Pedigree (Triple H)

Sweet Chin Music (Shawn Michaels)

 

 

 

 

I would also put AJ Styles "Pelé Kick"  &  "Spiral Tap" on my list as well: 

I like his Springboard 450 splash.

[Castle Bleck 19,374]

People's Elbow (The Rock)

The Worm (Scotty 2 Hotty)

 

Again: impractical, yet still more exciting than Hogan's Leg-Drop or Cena's Five-Knuckle.

[Sparklefan1234 171,306]

@,

 

Here are my Favorite Finishers:

 

Stone Cold Stunner (Stone Cold Steve Austin)

 

The Pedigree (Triple H)

 

Sweet Chin Music (Shawn Michaels)

 

The Styles Clash & The Calf Crusher (AJ Styles)

 

Angles Wings, Last Rites & Best Moonsault Ever (Christopher Daniels)

 

Muscle Buster & Coquina Clutch (Samoa Joe)

 

The Perfect Plex (Curt Hennig)

 

Ankle Lock (Kurt Angle)

 

RKO/Diamond Cutter (Randy Orton & DDP)

 

The Codebreaker & The Liontamer (Chris Jericho)

 

The Killswitch (Christian)

 

Coast to Coast & Leap of Faith Elbow Drop (Shane McMahon)

Edited September 10, 2016 by Sparklefan1234

[TheRockARooster 51,539]

Why, because he got beat by Triple H? That match meant nothing and Sting said a thousand times already that he was okay with it, considering he got the best paycheck of his career.

 

Do you really think, his legendary matches with guys like Ric Flair, Vader, Hogan, etc. are obsolete now? In that case, you should reconsider everything, because Sting dosen't deserve this kinda hate.

 

Besides, if there was one thing that tainted his career, then his match against Jeff Hardy from Victory Road, because Jeff was of the opinion to let himself get drugged. People paid to see this match and they will laugh about it for the next 100 years.

 

Still, you don't see me complain about Stings career being ruined.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPBEGQ5Ix1Q

 

You should also watch this and then you might understand why Sting, or alot of other wrestlers do certain things, that might seem stupid in hindsight.

Why do I have to reconsider how I feel?

 

I can't help it.

[Denim&Venöm 19,078]

Ok, what are your opinions on John Cena?

 

Personally, I like John Cena.

 

I think he's good on the mic and passable enough in the ring to deserve the accolades he's achieved.

 

Not to mention the amount of charity work he does.

*Let the booing and hurling of insults commence* 

I agree that he's a stand up guy. A legit hero IRL. And that he's also very good int he ring. He can have good matches w/ bad wrestlers (see ONS '07 vs. The Great Khali). I have no issue w/ the man or the wrestler. It's the gimmick. So stale/ So bland. His gimmick is 'the good guy.' That's it. He gets booed cause his opponents have more depth than he does. Not to mention that he's the over dog in pretty much every encounter. 15x world champ? Wins the majority of matches. Seems to always kick out of at least one finisher. CM Punk said it best. He's not Luke Skywalker. He's the evil empire.

 

I guess you can compare Cena to Applejack.  AJ hasn't been written well in MLP. Why? Because any flaws of her's have already been addressed, any problems she's had have been solved, and any growth of her character has already happened. Just like John Cena. He's become world champ. He's already moved on from his villainous ways, and overcame most villains along the way, all the while lacking any flaws that humanize him. 

 

In short, Cena is a good wrestler, and even better human being. But he's a lousy, poorly written character in the narrative of the WWE story. 

 

 

As to the question of favorite finishers:

 

• Ricola Bomb (Straight jacket powerbomb)/ Thunderfire Ricola bomb (straight jacket awesome bomb)- Cesaro
• Death Rowe (Full Nelson GTS) - Raymond Rowe
• AT lock (head scissored Kimura)- Milano Collection AT
• 3 up, 3 down (Devil locked Fujiwara armbar/arm breaker)- Pentagon Jr.
• Weapon X (Gory special flat liner/complete shot)- Brian Cage
• Acid Bomb (Inverted razors edge)- Trent Acid
• Devilock cloverleaf- Cm Punk/ Davy Richards
• Bome Ye/Kinshasa Knee- Shinsuke Nakamura
• Calf Killer/ Styles Clash/ Spiral Tap/ Moonsault reverse DDT - AJ Styles
• Last Rights/ Angels Wings- 'Almighty' Christopher Daniels
• Pepsi Plunge/ Bridging Anaconda vice- CM Punk
• Anaconda Vice/ Anaconda Cross- Hiroyoshi Tenzan
• Dudebuster (cradle belly to back piledraver)- Trent Baretta 
• Kudome Valentine (Vertebreaker/Gringo Killa)- Megumi Kudo/ Homicide/ Cheerleader Melissa
• Queen Bee Bomb (half straight jacket northern lights driver)- Manami Toyota
• Hindu Sault- Sonjay Dutt
• Derailer (sit out choke bomb)/ Sit out last ride- Lord Giant Albert Bernard Tensai
• Project Ciampa (power bomb onto knees/ Sicilian stretch (Rings of Saturn)- Tomasso Ciampa
• Brain bustah (Verticle suplex on the turnbuckle/ring apron)
• Red Arrow- PAC/Adrian Neville