Need help creating Fluttershy's daughter

[Trixio 443]

 

 

Ok, so I played around in the creator.  Tried to combine the suggestions together, and came up with this:

Angel Feather.png

 

Took the colors my roommate had, with the design from @.  I just changed her expression to look more concerned, and made her a bit taller, since she's supposed to be an adult mare.  Also added the secondary mane color from @'s Justice Fire, just to show a little connection, lol.

 

Thoughts?

 

I think this is the right "look" for her. She is perfect. She looks very sweet but at the same time capable of some "authority" (I cannot find the right word) and determination

[AmberDust 1,118]

She looks a little too meek to be an authority. ^^

[yisetab28 89]

I don't think the colors are quite right @nx9100. Maybe tone down the white a little so it doesn't hurt our eyes too much. Also for the fic, you should maybe add just a little story on how and why Flutter got with the OC, otherwise we don't have any idea why she didn't pick another character to be with.

Edited June 1, 2015 by MCAsomm

[AmberDust 1,118]

I don't think the colors are quite right @nx9100. Maybe tone down the white a little so it doesn't hurt our eyes too much. Also for the fic, you should maybe add just a little story on how and why Flutter got with the OC, otherwise we don't have any idea why she didn't pick another character to be with.

I agree. I feel like somepony as important Fluttershy's partner should be more than a cameo. That's why I think you should use a canon character or just leave it unknown.

Anyways...

This was my design for 's OC, Rosemary.

Something like this seems suitable, for Fluttershy's Daughter, I think.

Edited June 1, 2015 by AmberDust

[nx9100 1,013]

She looks a little too meek to be an authority. ^^

 

It's going to be worked into the story.  

 

 

I don't think the colors are quite right @nx9100. Maybe tone down the white a little so it doesn't hurt our eyes too much. Also for the fic, you should maybe add just a little story on how and why Flutter got with the OC, otherwise we don't have any idea why she didn't pick another character to be with.

 

Will adjust the colors shortly.  and I am starting to agree with you all about the father.  Prob just going to leave him unknown.  @, don't worry!  like the oc's of my other friends, Justice Fire will still get a background cameo, but only as another member of the Pegasus community.  The other guys are right, without their own story about getting together, it's kinda odd to just pair Fluttershy up with an OC.  And I have three other side stories for Legacy planned, not to mention working on the mane story, to work on...     hope you understand!!

Edited June 1, 2015 by nx9100

[AquaMinty101 59]

It's going to be worked into the story.  

 

 

 

Will adjust the colors shortly.  and I am starting to agree with you all about the father.  Prob just going to leave him unknown.  @, don't worry!  like the oc's of my other friends, Justice Fire will still get a background cameo, but only as another member of the Pegasus community.  The other guys are right, without their own story about getting together, it's kinda odd to just pair Fluttershy up with an OC.  And I have three other side stories for Legacy planned, not to mention working on the mane story, to work on...     hope you understand!!

of course! Really, I just threw him out there because I was bored. lol

[yisetab28 89]

Pic is upside down @AmberDust

Edited June 1, 2015 by MCAsomm

[AmberDust 1,118]

Pic is upside down @AmberDust

Click on it. Should fix itself.

Mobile does this sometimes.

[Lucky Lass 528]

 

So I am up with nothing to do and read this yesterday, then I started to doodle. I skipped the

new posts so I apologize if some things have already been decided these are just ideas.

I just picked one of Celestia's Pegasus guards as the father because it was simple and
could fit into a story. Like, they are delivering something to Twilight, something bad happens,
one gets hurt, Fluttershy finds him and helps him, young love. Done cx

I also agree with MCASomm, when it comes to her personality. Especially if she is leading other
Pegasus. I can see her being compassionate like Fluttershy is, driven by that compassion, but
she would not easily back down when faced with a conflict or indecision. That's what also makes

me think her talent may be in helping/healing other ponies as well as inspiring confidence.

Her name too, Heartsong, sounds sweet like Fluttershy's name but also gives the impression she
knows exactly who she is, and would follow her heart to anyone who needs her. This though
can also be her downfall, because there will always be a time when you have to stop trying
so that the people who are already depending on you aren't put in danger. You can't always
save everyone, and her guilt over that is driven by the same strong emotion as her passion.

 

Pony colors sometimes confuse me because sometimes families match in a certain palette, like Twilight's

family, and sometimes they don't like the Cake twins. But I gave her a light yellow body since the parents

I picked are white and yellow. Then for her mane I sort of did what Flight Rising does when you breed dragons.

I picked a shade that fell between pink and blue, since you don't know what the grandparent's colors where

it is all just sort of in the air somewhere. Her cutie mark is just simple because I am hopeless at cutiemarks.
That is all for me I think, just a story blurb and rough character idea.

 

 

Edited June 2, 2015 by Lucky Lass

[nx9100 1,013]

HeartSong.jpg

 

So I am up with nothing to do and read this yesterday, then I started to doodle. I skipped the

new posts so I apologize if some things have already been decided these are just ideas.

 

I just picked one of Celestia's Pegasus guards as the father because it was simple and

could fit into a story. Like, they are delivering something to Twilight, something bad happens,

one gets hurt, Fluttershy finds him and helps him, young love. Done cx

 

I also agree with MCASomm, when it comes to her personality. Especially if she is leading other

Pegasus. I can see her being compassionate like Fluttershy is, driven by that compassion, but

she would not easily back down when faced with a conflict or indecision. That's what also makes

me think her talent may be in helping/healing other ponies as well as inspiring confidence.

Her name too, Heartsong, sounds sweet like Fluttershy's name but also gives the impression she

knows exactly who she is, and would follow her heart to anyone who needs her. This though

can also be her downfall, because there will always be a time when you have to stop trying

so that the people who are already depending on you aren't put in danger. You can't always

save everyone, and her guilt over that is driven by the same strong emotion as her passion.

 

Pony colors sometimes confuse me because sometimes families match in a certain palette, like Twilight's

family, and sometimes they don't like the Cake twins. But I gave her a light yellow body since the parents

I picked are white and yellow. Then for her mane I sort of did what Flight Rising does when you breed dragons.

I picked a shade that fell between pink and blue, since you don't know what the grandparent's colors where

it is all just sort of in the air somewhere. Her cutie mark is just simple because I am hopeless at cutiemarks.

That is all for me I think, just a story blurb and rough character idea.

 

@@Lucky Lass, wow.... that's way more then I could come up with!  nice drawing as well!  you really put alot of thought into her!

 

I like the idea of a Pegasus guard as the father (did you pick one from the show?).  And your idea on how they met would actually fit well into the backstory.  Like he was a survivor of the attack on Canterlot, and fled with the other Pegasus ponies into the mountains, and Fluttershy nursed him back to health, etc.  fits nicely...

 

and the personality also fits well, and matches what I envisioned for her.  She's over-protective of the other Pegasus ponies, which will cause a little conflict between her and one of my mane 6 characters, Lightning Dash.  

 

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Let me think about these ideas.  So I can get Chapter 10 finished, I'm going to make a final decision today.  Thank you everyone for your suggestions, ideas, artwork, and support!!!!!!!!

Edited June 2, 2015 by nx9100

[yisetab28 89]

Just a question @nx9100: What is the story about? From what I've seen I guess it's a post-apocalyptic setting, but what are the main events happening now?

[nx9100 1,013]

Just a question @nx9100: What is the story about? From what I've seen I guess it's a post-apocalyptic setting, but what are the main events happening now?

@@MCAsomm, 

Legacy takes place roughly 60-80 years after events of the show, in an alternate timeline that starts before the Season 4 finale.  At that time, an alien lizard-like race called the Vectin invaded and conquered Equestria.  After the Pegasus' cloud cities were destroyed, the few survivors fled to hide in the mountains.  The Unicorns disappeared mysteriously (will be revealed later where they went) after the Vectin started hunting them all down, as they were fearful that the unicorn's magic could defeat them.  Only the Earth ponies remain in abundance, with many being enslaved by the Vectin to grow and farm the bio-material they use to construct their bio-ships.  Earth ponies not enslaved live in constant fear, as the Vectin randomly attack them to prevent rebel uprisings.  Equestria as a whole has not been devastated, just the ponies cities and towns.  It is assumed that their entire planet, including griffons, zebras, etc, is also under Vectin control (that will play a part late in the story).

 

The story will focus on the adventures of a new Mane 6 (the grandchildren of show characters) as they search for a way to free Equestria from the Vectin.  They will end up traveling through space to find the only species that have defeated the Vectin before.... humans.

 

currently, i'm on chapter 10 out of a planned 48.  they head into space starting in chapter 13, with humans showing up around chapter 25.  

 

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UPDATE

 

So, I had a idea about Fluttershy's family.  All these ideas are great, and I thought, "why can't Fluttershy have more then one daughter?"  Therefore, I'm going (with everyone's permission of course) to give Fluttershy THREE daughters.  Heartsong is the eldest (and Pegasus leader), Angel Berry the middle, and Feather Dust the youngest.  This gave me yet another idea:  My character, Lightning Dash, could be the son of Feather Dust, with his father being Rainbow Dash's son.  Thought that would be a nice way to tie the families together....

 

Lightning Dash Family Tree

 

Heartsong, with your permission, @@Lucky Lass, 

 

Angel Berry, created by my roommate...

 

Feather Dust, using body shape from @, name from @@AmberDust.  mane and eye colored to show match to Lightning Dash, who will be her son.

Edited June 2, 2015 by nx9100

[yisetab28 89]

So, I had a idea about Fluttershy's family.  All these ideas are great, and I thought, "why can't Fluttershy have more then one daughter?"  Therefore, I'm going (with everyone's permission of course) to give Fluttershy THREE daughters.  Heartsong is the eldest (and Pegasus leader), Angel Berry the middle, and Feather Dust the youngest.  This gave me yet another idea:  My character, Lightning Dash, could be the son of Feather Dust, with his father being Rainbow Dash's son.  Thought that would be a nice way to tie the families together....

 

Looks nice enough, but now the question would be why Fluttershy had time and energy to have three daughters while the entire world was under attack by some alien lizards and everyone was fleeing away. Having sexual intercourse and a few months of pregnancy is already very exhausting, and caring for a baby in this kind of world is very dangerous, and nearly impossible,Depending on when the invasion happened. If Flutter had foals directly after the finale, before the invasion happened, it would be more plausible. But after the invasion? It just feels unrealistic.

 

tl:dr You should move the three daughters' birth date and childhood before the invasion, giving you a small window of time for them to be raised with love and care instead of being raised in a world where foal death tolls will probably be very high.

 

Or, I have alternative 2, which is a little darker.

 

Flutter did have 3 daughters. One of them before the invasion, the 2 after. The 2 last ones are only briefly mentioned, and are implied to have died in their childhood, with you showing Fluttershy experiencing grief over their death. A little more interesting, but also a little more dark.

 

Also, for lightning, maybe change his name so that it doesn't seem so obviously rubbed in our faces that he is the son of RD. I know that she is very egocentric and all, but I really wouldn't imagine her or her coltfriend naming their son almost identically to one of the parents. I do have a name idea, coming from a cancelled character in my fic: Silver Streak. How does that sound?

Edited June 2, 2015 by MCAsomm

[nx9100 1,013]

@@MCAsomm,

 

thanks for all the great imput and suggestions!  Allow me to explain my logic...

 

First, Lighting Dash is RD's grandson.  I never worked out who his father is, nor his grandfather (whom would be RD's mate).  So the similar naming makes a bit more sense, like passing on a family name.  Also, he grows up idolizing his grandmother, and develops a similar personality (which will be important in the climax of the story).  I am working on a short story where she teaches him all her flying tricks, and  he becomes the only other pony to perform a sonic rainboom (that I am aware of).  

 

FYI: all 6 of my mane characters are grandkids of show characters, not direct children.

 

Now, as for Fluttershy@family.  I figured out my timeline as this:  I assume that Twilight Sparkle and friends are about 16 years old (using human age references).  Lets call the invasion day D-Day, or D+0 years.  Fluttershy is 16 at D-day.  Assuming she had her first foal around age 30ish, that would put it about D+14 years, which would make Heartsong around 46 by the time the story takes place.  Assuming Fluttershy had her children a few years apart, they would be between 30-46 years old by this time, which is D+60 years.  

 

As for a dangerous world to grow up in, again, other then attacking the cities to take control, Equestria is still intact.  In face, the first few chapters have them wandering through the forests around Ponyville, which they discover mostly intact, just abandoned.  My primary characters, Star Gaze and Sweet Melody, grew up in a village out in the forest.  In fact, the Vectin mostly leave them alone, as is stated in the story.  Sweet Melody is young enough to have actually never seen a Vectin before the events in story.  I was going to have it the same for the Pegasus survivors (who are being introduced in chapter 10 which I am finishing now).  Once they lost their cloud cities, and the Vectin assumed control, the Pegasus survivors fled to live in the mountains, and have remained there ever since.  With a few exceptions, they stayed away from the Vectin-controlled areas, and were also left pretty much alone.  

 

Therefore, Fluttershy's pregnancy (and activities leading to it) probably occurred a good decade or two AFTER the original invasion, when the survivors settled down to their new lives.  Personally, I'm trying to avoid a post-apocalyptic-theme, and trying to show the planet as under occupation (like Bajor, for any Star Trek: DS9 fans).  The invaders took control of what they needed, and the remaining ponies now live in new, separated communities.  Once the Vectin took control, they settled in to administrate.  And the population has to continue on, right?   

Edited June 2, 2015 by nx9100

[yisetab28 89]

Well @nx9100, in an analysis here (https://mlpforums.com/blog/268/entry-5526-how-old-are-the-mane-6/), the estimated age is more around 20 years or so. This coupled with the fact RD had something like 23 candles on her cake, the mane 6 are almost all identical in age and that almost all of them have adult level responsibilities, I don't think 16 would be a very realistic age. Unless this is set before the mane 6 met and that causes the alternate timeline.

[nx9100 1,013]

@@MCAsomm,interesting.  I had never seen that article before, and just guessed based on my own random observations.   Very well, let me adjust my figures to account for a starting age of 21....   

 

 

update

 

ok, I ran the numbers again with the new ages.  My new timeline has Legacy starting 55 years after the invasion (which is just before the season 4 finale).  Assume the day of invasion is D-Day, or D+0 years....

 

D+0 Years = Equestria is invaded and conquered by Vectin.  Fluttershy is 21.

D+7 Years = Heartsong is born.  Fluttershy is 28

D+10 Years = Angel Berry is born.  Fluttershy is 31

D+12 years = Feather Dust is born.  Fluttershy is 33

D+40 years = Lighting Dash is born.  Feather Dust is 28.  Fluttershy is 61

D+48 Years = Older Rainbow Dash teaches Lighting how to perform a Sonic Rainbow.  She is 69.

D+55 years = Legacy story starts.  Lighting Dash is 15, Feather Dust is 43, Fluttershy is 76

 

This timeline still works, and even allow me to keep my idea of Fluttershy having a short appearance, depicted as elderly with memory problems.  It would also allow an older Rainbow to pass on the one trick only she can perform to her grandson.  Rainbow is gone by D+55 year mark.

 

Please let me know if I made any math mistakes!

Edited June 2, 2015 by nx9100

[yisetab28 89]

Looks perfectly fine @nx9100. I'm looking forward for the final completed story.