Gestum 2,493 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 But he doesn't currently exist; except for as a corpse. Corpses are not known for being highly (or even slightly) communicative. But the ponies only exists as pixels on a tv/computer screen, and pixels aren't known for their ability to communicate. If you went and asked his skeleton to explain the theory of relativity, you'd likely get a whole lot of nothing. Though you could ask Einstein's skeleton the result of two plus two, and Einstein's skeleton would still be at a loss. But some pixels on my computer screen would be able to answer them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 But the ponies only exists as pixels on a tv/computer screen, and pixels aren't known for their ability to communicate. But some pixels on my computer screen would be able to answer them? Stop asking pixels and go ask a pony. xD Hold on... Dashie, could I bother you for a moment? Sure, babe. I'm used to it by now. x3 Was that really necessary? xD Yes. G'head. What's the sum of two and two? Is this a trick question? It's four, Ziggy. Did you really need my help for this? xD Thank you, Babe. That's just what I needed. x3 What was this for, really? Some forum nonsense with Gestum. I kinda figured. 1 "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestum 2,493 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 (edited) Stop asking pixels and go ask a pony. xD I'll assume that you meant ponies from MLP:FIM. The only problem is that they don't exists other then as pixels on a tv/computer screen. Edited July 11, 2015 by Gestum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I'll assume that you meant ponies from MLP:FIM. The only problem is that they don't exists other then as pixels on a tv/computer screen. Regardless of whether or not you believe that Twilight Sparkle exists, Einstein is nonetheless dead. Meaning that he is incapable of answering the very simplest of questions. So, even by your own logic, Einstein cannot be more intelligent than Twilight; he can only be as intelligent as she. But, if you are resurrecting a dead man and endowing him with intelligence he possessed in life, you are claiming that a man who no longer exists does exist. Which is rather incongruous considering your constant cries of nonexistence. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 (edited) Regardless of whether or not you believe that Twilight Sparkle exists, Einstein is nonetheless dead. Meaning that he is incapable of answering the very simplest of questions. So, even by your own logic, Einstein cannot be more intelligent than Twilight; he can only be as intelligent as she. This is kind of funny, because by your own logic, Einstein could still be alive. Edited July 11, 2015 by Yamet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 This is kind of funny, because by your own logic, Einstein could still be alive. But you and Gestum seem absolutely unwilling to subscribe to my logic. x3 Not to mention that you and he both are doubtless referring to the Einstein who once lived but is no longer living. If you were referring to a different Einstein (parallel universe Einstein, ghost Einstein, magically resurrected Einstein), you ought to have said so. I think it's funny that the two of you are still trying despite having been thoroughly defeated by the very reality you so humorlessly hold dear. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 But you and Gestum seem absolutely unwilling to subscribe to my logic. x3 Not to mention that you and he both are doubtless referring to the Einstein who once lived but is no longer living. If you were referring to a different Einstein (parallel universe Einstein, ghost Einstein, magically resurrected Einstein), you ought to have said so. And you seem seem equally unwilling to subscribe to our logic. And, I'm pretty sure that we (or at least Gestum) have actually said that we was referring to an alive Einstein. Also, as I said, Einstein is actually alive by your own logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 And you seem seem equally unwilling to subscribe to our logic. And, I'm pretty sure that we (or at least Gestum) have actually said that we was referring to an alive Einstein. Also, as I said, Einstein is actually alive by your own logic. I have always been referring to the Einstein who is dead. Which is the Einstein. And to the Twilight Sparkle who is real; not to the Twilight Sparkle that is not. A dead Einstein is less intelligent than a real Twilight Sparkle. You cannot disagree with this. I mean, you can say you do, but you'd simply be wrong. I see that you and he are quick to bend the rules of time and mortality if it suits your respective arguments, but you balk the moment someone tosses a fly into your ointment. It's cute, really. x3 And by all means, let's continue. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestum 2,493 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I was talking about how smart Einstein was 80 years ago and how smart Twilight was 80 years ago.80 years ago Twilight didn't exists (not that she does it now either) however Einstein did. Therefore he was the smartest of the two. I see that you and he are quick to bend the rules of time and mortality if it suits your respective arguments, but you balk the moment someone tosses a fly into your ointment. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks at others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I have always been referring to the Einstein who is dead. Which is the Einstein. And to the Twilight Sparkle who is real; not to the Twilight Sparkle that is not. A dead Einstein is less intelligent than a real Twilight Sparkle. You cannot disagree with this. I mean, you can say you do, but you'd simply be wrong. I see that you and he are quick to bend the rules of time and mortality if it suits your respective arguments, but you balk the moment someone tosses a fly into your ointment. It's cute, really. x3 This made me laugh. It's pretty funny how you're quick to claim that one thing exist because someone made a cartoon about it and then claim that the moment that someone dies they stop existing. Never mind how many books or movies mention them, they don't exist anymore because they are dead. But when a book or movie mentions a fictional character they magically start existing. Also, I have to admit, the way you reacted when Gestum said that Twilight doesn't exist was pretty cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesme Rize 15,687 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I think the question is kind of silly. We speak about a scientist, who was one of the greatest minds of the 20th century and we put him against a fictional unicorn that uses magic. My OC Mesme Rize: >https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/mesme-rize-r8777 Thank you Randimaxis for this Wonderful Avatar. Please, don't be afraid to talk to me. I am not as unapproachable, as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I think the question is kind of silly. We speak about a scientist, who sucked in math, but was one of the greatest minds of the 20th century and we put him against a fictional unicorn that uses magic. I have to ask, where did you learn that he sucked in math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks at others. Don't glass houses have glass doors? Mightn't I open said glass door and hurl a rock from my place of residence to your place of residence? Also, Twilight exists now, while Einstein is now dead. I didn't have to time travel at all to support my argument. *Gestum tags in Yamet.* This made me laugh. It's pretty funny how you're quick to claim that one thing exist because someone made a cartoon about it and then claim that the moment that someone dies they stop existing. Never mind how many books or movies mention them, they don't exist anymore because they are dead. But when a book or movie mentions a fictional character they magically start existing. Also, I have to admit, the way you reacted when Gestum said that Twilight doesn't exist was pretty cute. It's funnier still that you didn't so much as touch the part of my post where I posited that a dead Einstein is less intelligent than a real Twilight Sparkle. Do you or don't you agree? If you agree, continue not to address the matter whatsoever. And I'm flattered that you think me cute, but I am in a relationship. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesme Rize 15,687 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I have to ask, where did you learn that he sucked in math? Okay, that was me being silly myself. That whole math thing is of course a myth. I bucked up. My OC Mesme Rize: >https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/mesme-rize-r8777 Thank you Randimaxis for this Wonderful Avatar. Please, don't be afraid to talk to me. I am not as unapproachable, as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 Einstein's dead; therefore, he doesn't exist. Can you prove otherwise? Can you prove, irrefutably, beyond so much as a sliver of a shadow of doubt, that he ever did? Einstein impacted the world, Twilight didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestum 2,493 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 Don't glass houses have glass doors? Mightn't I open said glass door and hurl a rock from my place of residence to your place of residence? Yes,but then I have a rock to throw at your residence. Also, Twilight exists now, while Einstein is now dead. I didn't have to time travel at all to support my argument. But you need to pretend that a magical cartoon pony exists. That's so much better. but I am in a relationship. With someone that doesn't exists. Also I wouldn't call it a relationship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 @Yamet @Gestum Really, even if we could pit Einstein (a living, breathing one that could think) against Twilight Sparkle (a pony whose level of intelligence has not been seriously or completely examined within the context of the show) in a, for lack of a better title, "Smarts Off," none of us in this topic are really adequately intellectually equipped to judge it. xD "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 It's funnier still that you didn't so much as touch the part of my post where I posited that a dead Einstein is less intelligent than a real Twilight Sparkle. Do you or don't you agree? If you agree, continue not to address the matter whatsoever. And I'm flattered that you think me cute, but I am in a relationship. I do not agree that a dead Einstein is dumber than a real Twilight. I do however believe that Einsteins corpse is dumber than a real Twilight. There's a small difference between the two. And I thought how you acted was cute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 Yes,but then I have a rock to throw at your residence. Somehow, I don't fear your throwing arm. But you need to pretend that a magical cartoon pony exists. That's so much better. The topic itself requires a certain suspension of disbelief. Or, gosh, Idunno: A capacity for imagination. With someone that doesn't exists. Also I wouldn't call it a relationship. Believe or disbelieve what you will; it changes nothing for me. Not to mention that I still haven't sufficient proof that you exist. Are you certain that you do? You are but an avatar and a username on a pony forum. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 @Yamet @Gestum Really, even if we could pit Einstein (a living, breathing one that could think) against Twilight Sparkle (a pony whose level of intelligence has not been seriously or completely examined within the context of the show) in a, for lack of a better title, "Smarts Off," none of us in this topic are really adequately intellectually equipped to judge it. xD Twilight is knowledgeable in fake pony logic, Einstein is knowledgeable in real human logic. For example... Twilight would say ponies control the weather, which is true in her world,and Einstein would say the weather "works on its own" (to put it in short terms) which is true in our world. Believe or disbelieve what you will; it changes nothing for me. Not to mention that I still haven't sufficient proof that you exist. Are you certain that you do? You are but an avatar and a username on a pony forum. OHHHHH IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestum 2,493 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 The topic itself requires a certain suspension of disbelief. Or, gosh, Idunno: A capacity for imagination. But imaging time travel isn't good for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 The topic itself requires a certain suspension of disbelief. Or, gosh, Idunno: A capacity for imagination. Said the person who's strongest argument is "Einstein is dead". If you can't imagine a living Einstein, why should we imagine a real Twilight? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I do not agree that a dead Einstein is dumber than a real Twilight. I do however believe that Einsteins corpse is dumber than a real Twilight. There's a small difference between the two. And I thought how you acted was cute. One might argue that Einstein's corpse is a dead Einstein. This takes us back into non-corporeal, possibly "ghost" territory. Because corporeal Einstein is pretty quiet these days. Regardless, I'm glad to finally hear you admit that Einstein is dumber than Twilight. I'll not respond to your flattery! But imaging time travel isn't good for some reason. Were that deliberately what you were doing, it would have been imaginative. But you know full well that it was not. "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 I have to ask, where did you learn that he sucked in math? It is a reference to how Einstein supposedly had trouble with certain forms of math in his younger years, I don't know if it is true or not but either way he sure didn't suck at in adulthood. Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 One might argue that Einstein's corpse is a dead Einstein. This takes us back into non-corporeal, possibly "ghost" territory. Because corporeal Einstein is pretty quiet these days. Regardless, I'm glad to finally hear you admit that Einstein is dumber than Twilight. I'll not respond to your flattery! grasping for straws Also he said Einstein's corpse is dumber than Twilight. Don't twist his words =) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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