Scion of Arcadia 69 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Personally, I think that it's a good thing there are fat ponies. Fat is a thing that young people often have a lot of charge about. Losing weight, being criticized and considered lazy or spineless, or ridiculed for not having a body-type which is the TV norm are all things which a viewing audience of young people (I'm 63, so someone in their 30s is still young to me) could appreciate seeing discussed and handled in a helpful way. I would love to see a show about that. Pinkie Pie eats, uh, like a horse - and she never seems to get fat - except momentarily. (I've known people like that... very annoying!) What if Pinkie Pie went to another town, where ponies didn't know her, and had some huge cake orgy and got her usual temporary fatness, except that this time it doesn't go away. How would other ponies see her? How would she see herself? With no Twilight Sparkle or Celestia nearby to make it go away immediately with magic, she's be in a pickle. What if she believed people who told her she was lazy or of poor character? Poor Pinkie! Suddenly gobbling cupcakes would be a crime - a crime against herself. Our wonderful, bouncing, cupcake-munching Pinkie-Pie would be in a big, fat, world of hurt. This is especially keen given the demographics. The intended age group of this show are entering a stage in their life where suddenly weight and looks is an incredibly big deal. As for the periphery demographic... well, it's still a big deal, maybe even moreso that they have money to spend on less than healthy food. If you're watching your favorite show, which is still a rather whimsical place, and you see characters looked down upon for not being an ideal weight that's even more cryptic in universe, now how's that going to make you feel? Weight is a touchy subject, especially at the general age of the large amount of viewers, so trying to keep it laissez faire may be the better option than trying to make a point. Up until it's actually the moral of the episode, that is. P.S. 63? Wow, the show's even more wide reaching than I thought. That's not an age I expected to come up on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foliha 395 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 P.S. 63? Wow, the show's even more wide reaching than I thought. That's not an age I expected to come up on here. Yeah, I'm the Granny Smith of Bronies. (Sorry, I just don't feel like a Pegasister... ) But really, I'm 63 going on 14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,538 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 This fat pony at the end was kind of random but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassiel 11 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 (edited) People in real life wish they could just magically melt all their fat away... I think you mean 'only when its a problem'. Being 'fat' doesn't really mean unhealthy at times though I've known many plump people who are healthy in all aspects of their life, and talked to doctors about it: The differences are better than how the interpretation from the Tv or media presents, and there's the matter that you can seem overweight and be healthy in all biological functions. They only seem unhealthy because of how the fat perception goes...or maybe the culture of the society? Edited October 17, 2015 by Cassiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKingBakudan 702 October 17, 2015 Author Share October 17, 2015 (edited) (bolding and italics in the quoted posts is mine) I did read your posts, and they seem very judgmental to me. The tone, although tone can be difficult to assess online, seems to imply a very judgmental attitude. A person's difficulty controlling a, say, sugar addiction does not necessarily equate to a character defect. Body image is a tricky thing. Everyone has their own way of seeing themselves and others. I congratulate you on having shed 80lbs. But please consider that the same process may involve very different things for others, and not be easy, especially if the struggle has been going on for a long time. And comments using the words "lazy" and "character defect" don't help, and can be very hurtful. It isn't about being politically correct, it's about being considerate. Personally, I think that it's a good thing there are fat ponies. Fat is a thing that young people often have a lot of charge about. Losing weight, being criticized and considered lazy or spineless, or ridiculed for not having a body-type which is the TV norm are all things which a viewing audience of young people (I'm 63, so someone in their 30s is still young to me) could appreciate seeing discussed and handled in a helpful way. I would love to see a show about that. Pinkie Pie eats, uh, like a horse - and she never seems to get fat - except momentarily. (I've known people like that... very annoying!) What if Pinkie Pie went to another town, where ponies didn't know her, and had some huge cake orgy and got her usual temporary fatness, except that this time it doesn't go away. How would other ponies see her? How would she see herself? With no Twilight Sparkle or Celestia nearby to make it go away immediately with magic, she's be in a pickle. What if she believed people who told her she was lazy or of poor character? Poor Pinkie! Suddenly gobbling cupcakes would be a crime - a crime against herself. Our wonderful, bouncing, cupcake-munching Pinkie-Pie would be in a big, fat, world of hurt. ETA. I just saw your latest post, about your dad. I am so sorry that you have to deal with the constant fear and anger that your dad's condition brings to you. That would indeed be a hard thing to witness. I understand why you are so angry about it now. I had a similar experience, watching my parents destroying their lives with alcohol, and putting major dents in mine as well. All I can say is try and find a way to forgive your dad for being who and what he is. When he's gone, you won't be able to give him that. And you will hurt even more, needlessly. Take it from someone who knows. First, if my comparing obesity to alcoholism put you off in any way, my apologies and condolences. I had no idea your parents struggled with it. But you know from first-hand experience why it's a problem, and why we shouldn't just accept it. Drinking is a deterrent to your health. It's not something that defines us as individuals, nor is it something that should be celebrated. Nothing that harms us should be seen in a positive light. Why should overeating and refusing to exercise be any different? That's why I get frustrated when people are always asking me for advice and coming back with excuses. They'd rather just wait till they land in the emergency room because no amount of talking will convince them what I did worked. I'm not an expert by any means, but if I can do it, there's no reason not to follow suit. Not that everyone that's overweight exhibits this kind of behavior. This lack of commitment though is the single-most contributing factor to the climbing obesity rate in America alone. But what gets to me the most is that some people want to make any discussion on the matter taboo. If you say anything about a person being fat, it's like making a racial slur. That's the most asinine thing I've ever seen. Maybe it is hurtful, but most of the time, it's because they recognize that sort of criticism as a harsh truth, and they want to keep to lying to themselves to feel comfortable about the choices they made. That's what I used to do. There's no way I can look back to the time I'd put 12 inches around my waist and not say I was being lazy or neglectful of my own health. Of course, you're not going to see anyone fess up to it like I have. They'd rather just spin the commentary around to make it look like a civil rights issue; it's not about health anymore, it's about the way other people look. And how dare anybody say we need to change our lifestyle! This is the kind of ignorance I can't stand. Why in the world should MLP teach kids it's okay to be different at the expense of your own well-being? That's exactly what's being insinuated here. I think you mean 'only when its a problem'. Being 'fat' doesn't really mean unhealthy at times though I've known many plump people who are healthy in all aspects of their life, and talked to doctors about it: The differences are better than how the interpretation from the Tv or media presents, and there's the matter that you can seem overweight and be healthy in all biological functions. They only seem unhealthy because of how the fat perception goes...or maybe the culture of the society? That's dangerous. I have a sister who's like that. Maybe she's comfortable with the way she is, but the fact remains that having that much weight puts you at a greater health risk. When you're obese, and you're told by a doctor that you're healthy, it's easy to assume nothing bad's going to happen to you. That way of thinking didn't turn out so well for me. Edited October 17, 2015 by Lord-Pomegranate 1 No questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan 3,255 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 So I wanted to do some research on this and let me tell yah, do not google search "fat mlp ponies" <shudder> 0_0 as for your post , Logical reason they would be fat? It was a design choice , they wanted mrs. cake's physique to compliment mr. cake's thin and tall stature and in the case of the puppeteer , Jayson Thiesson states "The puppeteer's design was inspired by the voice. When I heard the audition I just had to draw a sketch" Mythos reason they would be fat? Fat doesn't burn as easy as you'd think in the pony world, how do we know? well , while I can't seem to find any evidence of Dieting in equestria, the existence of exercise and training should be enough to show that body modification in their world takes just as much effort as it would on ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foliha 395 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 ... Drinking is a deterrent to your health. It's not something that defines us as individuals, nor is it something that should be celebrated. ... I'm not an expert by any means, but if I can do it, there's no reason not to follow suit. Not that everyone that's overweight exhibits this kind of behavior. This lack of commitment though is the single-most contributing factor to the climbing obesity rate in America alone. Of course, you're not going to see anyone fess up to it like I have. They'd rather just spin the commentary around to make it look like a civil rights issue; it's not about health anymore, it's about the way other people look. And how dare anybody say we need to change our lifestyle! This is the kind of ignorance I can't stand. Why in the world should MLP teach kids it's okay to be different at the expense of your own well-being? That's exactly what's being insinuated here. While I agree that excessive drinking, drinking that is not under the control of the drinker, drinking that is compulsive or a way to escape one's problems is detrimental. Not all drinking is a problem. I do not drink at all - being raised by raging alcoholics saw to that, but I am aware that there are those who are able to drink mindfully and moderately, and it is actually an enhancement to their lives. I personally find drinking abhorrent. But I am aware that it's because I was personally harmed by having parents who were alcoholics. Just like some people are afraid of and dislike dogs because they were bitten. This does not mean all dogs are biters or dangerous. "lack of commitment though is the single-most contributing factor to the climbing obesity rate in America alone." I would like to see a reference to studies that support this notion. I think that the great emphasis on the way a person looks, in out culture and its media, is why there is a social stigma on being overweight. It is also responsible for the anorexia epidemic among young people. That, and models who destroy their health by trying to be the little stick-people that the fashion industry demands is the other side of the coin. Being obese is clearly bad for one's health. Being plump - not so much. But I think it is important to know that being obese is a symptom of an illness or an emotional dysfunction. It's no good trying to kill a weed by pinching the top of of the plant. You must pull it up by the roots. Harshing on someone because they're fat will not help them find the courage to change. It will just make them retreat further into themselves. If you care, truth can be delivered with tact. If you don't, why say anything at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,860 October 18, 2015 Share October 18, 2015 When a topic like this (MLP Show Centric question) hides an issue that is personal to someone, if often winds up no longer being about the issue that started it. People who felt invited to discuss because this was a topic about cotton candy ponies wind up feeling like they were sold a bill of goods when they find out they inadvertently insulting someone, or the topic forgets to distinguish that people approach the world of Equestria from a lens of safety divergent from the real world. This is a trap thread for that reason and I am locking it for the time being. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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