Shouldn't Sunset Shimmer been expelled?

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  HaHa! Biingo! I figured as much that this was your biggest issue than "why wasn't sunset arrested or expelled" because that sort of question was unfair to ask (in my opinion) without including Midnight Sparkle, snips and snails, and the Dazzlings  and even TRIXIE into the discussion. You targeted ONLY Sunset in this question because you personally feel as though she is a boring and annoying character in general. And while I'm tempted to point out a few faults in that post about sunset, I will still only stick with the topic of this message....as my intentions were not to veer the topic off track. Besides, I can dig you don't like her, not everyone does

 

In response to you claiming their are other easy solutions to fill in the plot hole of magic not attracting legal authorities and giving villains a harsh and realistic punishment, I'm sure they are!  though I've yet to encounter anyone who reveals one to prove their point. Mmmm I think I remember someone mentioning a good plot hole filler but I fail to remember what it was.  

I was going to make that the thread about Sunset Shimmer but I thought bronies just can't take too much criticism about their favorite character.

 

And the main topic of this thread is another reason why I don't like how they wrote Sunset Shimmer. If she was expelled, so what, they can just make other movies on about Canterlot High big deal.

Edited October 22, 2015 by cider float

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I was going to make that the thread about Sunset Shimmer but I thought bronies just can't take too much criticism about their favorite character.

 

We're all bronies here. And you basically did make a thread about Sunset Shimmer, but took an unfair approach with a question that applies to people other than Sunset. MLP Forums are for everyone to express whatever opinion they may have and that includes you. You're free to dislike a character and I think you have the right to express however you feel about Sunset regardless of how misguided I think your reasons may be just as how you may think my reasons for liking her are misguided as well.   I'm sure most of us are mature enough to handle whatever you have to say as long as they are expressed in a civil manner and does not bash too harshly on those who do like Sunset (for example, by saying anyone who likes sunset are idiots...etc) because then that'll be a bit too harsh only in my opinion but bro you're free to say you dislike a character and if you want to create a proper discussion about why, I say go for it!  

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We're all bronies here. And you basically did make a thread about Sunset Shimmer, but took an unfair approach with a question that applies to people other than Sunset. MLP Forums are for everyone to express whatever opinion they may have and that includes you. You're free to dislike a character and I think you have the right to express however you feel about Sunset regardless of how misguided I think your reasons may be just as how you may think my reasons for liking her are misguided as well.   I'm sure most of us are mature enough to handle whatever you have to say as long as they are expressed in a civil manner and does not bash too harshly on those who do like Sunset (for example, by saying anyone who likes sunset are idiots...etc) because then that'll be a bit too harsh only in my opinion but bro you're free to say you dislike a character and if you want to create a proper discussion about why, I say go for it!

I was holding it in because I have already criticized a lot of what bronies hold dear so I was giving it some downtime

 

And I don't think it was completely irrational to make a discussion about how they are just leaving Sunset Shimmer to stay in school after all that.

Edited October 22, 2015 by cider float

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I was holding it in because I have already criticized a lot of what bronies hold dear so I was giving it some downtime

 

And I don't think it was completely irrational to make a discussion about how they are just leaving Sunset Shimmer to stay in school after all that.

Not once did I say it was irrational, I said it was unfair (again in my opinion) that the question was targeted at her instead of including the obvious others who basically posed as big of a threat as she did which I had already pointed out in my first post within this discussion. I saw you as overlooking everyone else and only at Sunset, because of your perspective on her in general. That, in itself, is basically criticism. Especially since you've already released your feelings about Sunset just a moment ago. Might as well make a real discussion about it, if you choose, since that fueled this thread in the first place. 

Edited October 22, 2015 by Princess Sunset

[cider float 2,538]

Not once did I say it was irrational, I said it was unfair (again in my opinion) that the question targeted at her instead of the obvious others who basically posed as big of a threat as she did which I had already pointed out in my first post within this discussion. I saw you as overlooking everyone else and only at Sunset, because of your perspective on her in general. That, in itself, is basically criticism. Especially since you've already released your feelings about Sunset just a moment ago. Might as well make a real discussion about it, if you choose, since that fueled this thread in the first place. 

The Sirens no longer exist in the school, haven't really seen Snips and Snails though they are probably there but they are too minor characters to really focus on since the development is being done on Sunset Shimmer which makes absolutely no sense. Far as her development that makes sense was about how she deals with juvenile prison and getting reformed there.

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The Sirens no longer exist in the school, haven't really seen Snips and Snails though they are probably there but they are too minor characters to really focus on since the development is being done on Sunset Shimmer which makes absolutely no sense. Far as her development that makes sense was about how she deals with juvenile prison and getting reformed there.

Now you're just contradicting yourself from what you've said previously. In your very first post, you say Sunset should have been arrested or expelled. The Sirens are no longer in school, but they are still, in a sense, free from punishment which you so desire on Sunset and Sunset only. Snips and Snails were literally everywhere in EG 1 helping Sunset so they acted as antagonists as well. Trixie literally locked the mane 7 underneath a stage with no implications she'd return to free them which was possible murder...they were already down there for hours. Midnight Spar----well if you truly read my previous post, I already covered what Midnight has done. 

 

I'm starting to think you've only skimmed on my first post and not fully understand the the point I'm making in why I feel as though your question is heavily flawed? And for that, I'll take my leave. I see no reason to put effort into repeated myself if it seems you're missing the most important details. xD Imma go elsewhere and hopefully encounter a more engaging discussion. Night though! (well....more like morning for me ) It was a pleasure for the talk

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Now you're just contradicting yourself from what you've said previously. In your very first post, you say Sunset should have been arrested or expelled. The Sirens are no longer in school, but they are still, in a sense, free from punishment which you so desire on Sunset and Sunset only. Snips and Snails were literally everywhere in EG 1 helping Sunset so they acted as antagonists as well. Trixie literally locked the mane 7 underneath a stage with no implications she'd return to free them which was possible murder...they were already down there for hours. Midnight Spar----well if you truly read my previous post, I already covered what Midnight has done. 

 

I'm starting to think you've only skimmed on my first post and not fully understand the the point I'm making in why I feel as though your question is heavily flawed? And for that, I'll take my leave. I see no reason to put effort into repeated myself if it seems you're missing the most important details. xD Imma go elsewhere and hopefully encounter a more engaging discussion. Night though! (well....more like morning for me ) It was a pleasure for the talk

I don't need to provide much details besides the fact that Sunset Shimmer is the cause of all that harm, Snips and Snails would be accomplices and once again are not major characters to be concerned about since bronies don't really care about them so the focus is on Sunset Shimmer. Did you read anything I just said?

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This is the same series where the principal of an opposing school passes off giant piranha plant monsters as "cheating" and sudden wing growth as "performance enhancing regiments". I think it should be expected that this series isn't supposed to be taken so seriously to the point of questioning why Sunset wasn't expelled. 

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

This is a light-hearted fantasy world with a talking dog, dimension hopping, singing sea-horses that possess people and Pony-Human morphs that use magic. Realism isn't exactly what I'm looking for.

 

It's pretty much like asking for realism from TMNT, Fairly Odd Parents, South Park, the Simpsons, Family Guy (these two flip flop between realistic and unrealistic whenever they feel like it), Dan Vs., Powerpuff Girls, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Invader Zim and several other cartoons with humans! If you're looking for realism you're watching the wrong show. Just because a show is set in a "Human World" that looks like ours doesn't really mean it's going to follow the rules of the real world. Kind if silly to expect realism in a show that has made it clear that it's not supposed to be realistic.

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

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For a longer answer, she probably never technically enrolled, so how could they expel her? And if she was enrolled, they'd need to make some record of what her expellable offense was. The end of Friendship Games pretty much established that one can't go putting down "magic mind control" on official reports in the EQG world.

 

Edit: Sorry, ignore that first point. Misread the post.

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For a longer answer, she probably never technically enrolled, so how could they expel her? And if she was enrolled, they'd need to make some record of what her expellable offense was. The end of Friendship Games pretty much established that one can't go putting down "magic mind control" on official reports in the EQG world.

 

Edit: Sorry, ignore that first point. Misread the post.

Of course she enrolled, she was the Fall Formal Queen for 3 years running. Free school lunches is probably how Sunset has been feeding herself, though I like to think she went Survivalist upon arriving in the Human world and subsists on Fishing and growing Vegetables and Fruit.

[Singe 2,111]

The third movie gave some clue as to why expulsion and arrest never happened. The scene where Cinch threatens to get the school board involved. Then Celestia, Luna, and Cadence joking reaction.

 

That's basically what would happen if Celestia and Luna tried to have Sunset arrested. A prosecutor would have to prove magic exists. There was no footage of the incident. Witness testimonies would be useless.

 

Same with expulsion which would require Celestia to get Sunset Shimmer's non-existing parent(s)/guardian(s) involved and it would require a hearing. Celestia would have to prove magic exists. There was no footage of the incident. Witness testimonies would be useless.

 

Seriously, Celestia and Luna would be in hot water if the school board found out they had a homeless student with no parent(s)/guardian(s). Child Services gets involved and Sunset would wind up in an orphanage.

Edited October 23, 2015 by Singe

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I don't think Sunset will be expelled due to the school board as stated by Cinch in the 3rd movie.

[Jinxie Umbra 149]

As we learned in Friendship Games, the whole "extra-dimensional alien who enslaved the student body and blew up part of the school" thing is kept under wraps.

 

Besides, could you expel a face that cute?

[Unikitty 1,212]

You're forgetting one key important factor. Yes, it is in the human world, but it is still within the MLP-FiM universe. As in, there is nothing strictly saying that it is our Earth(and for good, obvious reasons). The rules that apply here do not have to apply in the EqG world. It's pretty clear that the EqG world is more relaxed. There's little real social problems that are reflective of the real world, so it's natural to imagine that their whole society has a more laid-back mentality.

 

And as a foot-note, you really shouldn't blame Sunset Shimmer for 'bad writing', when the event you brought up has nothing to do with her but instead the world around her.