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Why isn't Spike close with Twilight's family?


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On 1/5/2018 at 5:01 PM, MegaSean45 said:

Outta all the times on the show that Spike could've bonded with Twilight's family, it never happened. Twilight does think of Spike as family as shown in Once Upon a Zeppelin, and he returns the favor, but for some reason. he's never really bonding with anyone else in the family. Canterlot Wedding, Twilight has shown to have a relationship with Shining and Cadance, but to think that Spike coulda had a guy friend, like a brotherly figure outta Shining. Twilight was really excited to become an aunt to Flurry Heart, but what is Spike to her other than someone who put her to sleep with his singing? :P 

In all things considered though, the little time he had to interacting with Twilight's family, it was mostly asking him for a favor (Princess Spike, Flurry of Emotions), or the hero of the Crystal Empire. I mean it's better than nothing, but still. Is Twilight really the ONLY family he's got? Woulda seemed sweeter if he felt like he had a place within the Sparkle family as a whole. Now that it hasn't happened, it makes me want him to meet his original family even more!  At least Scoots now has Rainbow's family to make up for her parent neglection, and she does have aunts.

My guess is, he holds some hope that his birth parents live and doesn't want to choose.

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His "Dad" comes to take him away.

 

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3 minutes ago, Karnak said:

My guess is, he holds some hope that his birth parents live and doesn't want to choose.

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His "Dad" comes to take him away.

 

He would obviously choose his pony family over his dragon family!

He doesn't conciser himself a dragon, He considers himself as a pony!

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5 minutes ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said:

He would obviously choose his pony family over his dragon family!

He doesn't conciser himself a dragon, He considers himself as a pony!

Then in the Wings Over Yakyakistan comic, he pretty much DOES consider himself a dragon, and gets offended when his friends considered him a pony over being a dragon. I guess after befriending Ember and becoming ambassador, he comes to accept being a dragon, but a dragon that lives among ponies. If only the series would actually show Spike bonding with his pony family that is the Sparkles, but he is only shown bonding with one of them: Twilight! And that's the problem here. What is Shining, Cadance, Flurry, and Twilight's parents to him?

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7 minutes ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said:

He would obviously choose his pony family over his dragon family!

He doesn't conciser himself a dragon, He considers himself as a pony!

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Never said that. Normally its no contest, Spike would choose Twilight over any dragon. But if a dragon comes to ponyville and proudly says he's his biological father, my guess is he would be torn. Plus he possibly has a duet with him in "You can't be a dragon here". He loves Twilight, no question and sees her as spiritual family and she sees him as part of her family, and normally he would NEVER choose the dragon lands over ponyville, but again the chance to bond and spend time with a dad, you have to understand, it would be like Scootaloo meeting her mom. 

 

Makes me wonder what will the other ponies do and react to this apparent revelation?

 

 

5 minutes ago, MegaSean45 said:

Then in the Wings Over Yakyakistan comic, he pretty much DOES consider himself a dragon, and gets offended when his friends considered him a pony over being a dragon. I guess after befriending Ember and becoming ambassador, he comes to accept being a dragon, but a dragon that lives among ponies. If only the series would actually show Spike bonding with his pony family that is the Sparkles, but he is only shown bonding with one of them: Twilight! And that's the problem here. What is Shining, Cadance, Flurry, and Twilight's parents to him?

The comic is not really consistent, and if season 9 is correct non cannon

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5 minutes ago, MegaSean45 said:

Then in the Wings Over Yakyakistan comic, he pretty much DOES consider himself a dragon, and gets offended when his friends considered him a pony over being a dragon. I guess after befriending Ember and becoming ambassador, he comes to accept being a dragon, but a dragon that lives among ponies. If only the series would actually show Spike bonding with his pony family that is the Sparkles, but he is only shown bonding with one of them: Twilight! And that's the problem here. What is Shining, Cadance, Flurry, and Twilight's parents to him?

Dubious canon of the comics aside, Spike has always referred to himself as a dragon, never as a pony. He also seems to take a great deal of pride in being a dragon, just because he thinks of his pony friends as family, doesn’t mean he thinks of himself as a pony.

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22 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said:

Dubious canon of the comics aside, Spike has always referred to himself as a dragon, never as a pony. He also seems to take a great deal of pride in being a dragon, just because he thinks of his pony friends as family, doesn’t mean he thinks of himself as a pony.

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That's true. And if he is given the opportunity, he'll assume his dad knows best. And give his loving goodbyes to his friends. Thanking Twilight for the love and care and for being his family until now, but he's growing up and wants to spend his next moltings with his dad. Spike considers all ponies his family, not twilights family as a singular thing.

 

 

 

And Twilight loves and respects him. She allows him to make his own decisions, think for himself, live for himself, so if he makes the choice of moving with his

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, she will respect it and won't try and stop him by force. As long as he writes to her :lol:

 

Now can we please stop trying to make Spike a victim, he's doing fine, this ain't season 4, Spike has had it good since season 6.

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Sherbert Music-Guard said:

He would obviously choose his pony family over his dragon family!

He doesn't conciser himself a dragon, He considers himself as a pony!

While one may have wondered about that after "Dragon Quest," it has been established since then he considers himself a dragon. Notable examples are his Dragon Code in "Spike at Your Service" the following season, his exclamation of "I'm a dragon!" when Rainbow Dash comes to him in "Tanks for the Memories" for tortoise advice, and in "A Flurry of Emotions" where he openly expresses pride over being a dragon when reading a tale about a heroic dragon (who looks suspiciously like him? Hmmm....) to the sick foals.

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7 minutes ago, Truffles said:

While one may have wondered about that after "Dragon Quest," it has been established since then he considers himself a dragon. Notable examples are his Dragon Code in "Spike at Your Service" the following season, his exclamation of "I'm a dragon!" when Rainbow Dash comes to him in "Tanks for the Memories" for tortoise advice, and in "A Flurry of Emotions" where he openly expresses pride over being a dragon when reading a tale about a heroic dragon (who looks suspiciously like him? Hmmm....) to the sick foals.

Also in Shadow Play he includes himself when talking about the dragons. ‘To teach you about our customs,’ ‘like our favorite sport.’

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It always felt like a mix between brother sister and mom son to me. Mothers don't necessarily have to act a certain way. The writers did fine with their relationship.

As for the title question... i'm sure he hangs out with them off screen.

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I always considered them as bother and sister. Simply because of the way they treat each other.

Anyway, how old could be Twilight when hatched his egg? Form 4 to 7, if we guess she was about to attend the magic kindergarten,(or primary school at least), but If we consider Twilight as a gosh darn prodigy then it could be 2-3, but she was significantly bigger than that. I say she must be 4-5 when hatch the egg.

She could be any kind of prodigy, Celestia would never be so stupid to leave a baby to her responsibility at that age.

I guess she was "compulsory" adopted by the Sparkle family by Royal order. It can explain why the "family" is not treat him like a true family member.

But my head cannon is that Celestia took care of him. Therefore he and Twilight has such a good relationship, because Twilight spent significantly more time in the school than home. I imagine it like in the Harry Potter, she was lived in the magic school and went home might be three times a year, so she spent most of his time with Spike and Celestia,

Of course, Celestia involved her in taking care of Spike, because it was good for her having company around - Twilight was inclined to be antisocial - and helping caring for an other living creature taught her responsibility, what she would need when became a princess.

It explains why Twilight loves so much Celestia; technically she became her mother for years. ( In my headcanon, She was basically taken away from her family to prepare her for her destiny) 

Sure, she loves his parents she remained in touch with them, but it was not too intense. Shinning Armor is a different case because as a royal guard, he had more chance to visit his little sister.

That is why, Spike and Twilight has such an intense bonding while Spike have no with the Sparkle family.

Damn, I wrote a lot of bosh, here. XD

Anyway

The people voted and decided.

 

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