AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 I just saw this video and the veteran basically owned him lol. While I think the argument of gay marriage is kind of taboo around these here parts, I just wanted to let you guys express what you think of his demeanor toward the fella. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost 1,410 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 I think it was it was on both of them that they they spoke to each other in a civil manner despite having different opinions on the matter. Not sure about in the states, but here in the UK if you see a politician discussing something with someone who is opposed, they nearly always end up shouting at each other. 1 Your friendly neighborhood alcoholic motorcyclist Life is too short to worry what others think of you, be creative, be weird, live life. Check out my YouTube here Check out my Fiora Jungle Guide here Check out my Motovlogging Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 I think it was it was on both of them that they they spoke to each other in a civil manner despite having different opinions on the matter. Not sure about in the states, but here in the UK if you see a politician discussing something with someone who is opposed, they nearly always end up shouting at each other. Romney didn't even attempt to explain his reasoning though. He just said "It is my belief that a man and a woman is the definition of marriage". A candidate who clearly does not answer back to the common man about such "taboo" issues should not become president. It just makes him look more power-hungry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Soul 2,611 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Here's the thing, I don't agree with everything Mitt Romney has to say, because as we saw in this video, he didn't truly give any points to support his opinion. I also don't agree with Obama so don't think that I don't like Romney and love Obama, or vica versa, because I don't... I don't support any form of politics, nor do I encourage people to support one side or the other... 1 Soundcloud-------------------Facebook---------------------------Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBalistic 8 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 gay marrige is not taboo ! ! ! ! i think everyone should have the abilaty to marry whoever they enjoy the company of. i think it is unfair 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost 1,410 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Romney didn't even attempt to explain his reasoning though. He just said "It is my belief that a man and a woman is the definition of marriage". A candidate who clearly does not answer back to the common man about such "taboo" issues should not become president. It just makes him look more power-hungry. It was only a simple question from one citizen, i don't think he should have to explain his beliefs in depth every time someone asks him a question, and the guy did state he wanted a simple yes or a no. You guys have those presidential talk things don't you, where the candidates stand up and explain everything, if he is gonna explain himself he only really needs to do it there in my opinion. I wouldn't vote for him if i were american, he just seems like a tool to me and he is too stuck in the past, with the whole no same sex marriage thing. 1 Your friendly neighborhood alcoholic motorcyclist Life is too short to worry what others think of you, be creative, be weird, live life. Check out my YouTube here Check out my Fiora Jungle Guide here Check out my Motovlogging Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 gay marrige is not taboo ! ! ! ! i think everyone should have the abilaty to marry whoever they enjoy the company of. i think it is unfair I didn't mean it like that. I was just thinking that DEBATING about gay marriage is considered taboo, not the overall practice. Sorry if I offended you, I could have worded that better. Here's the thing, I don't agree with everything Mitt Romney has to say, because as we saw in this video, he didn't truly give any points to support his opinion. I also don't agree with Obama so don't think that I don't like Romney and love Obama, or vica versa, because I don't... I don't support any form of politics, nor do I encourage people to support one side or the other... I totally agree with you. US Politics is such a laughing stock. Obama with his financial crisis, and Romney with his uber conservative views.....I fear next election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBalistic 8 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 yes you could have worded that better but i guess thats okay too if you like i mean thats cool too if you like are okay with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 It was only a simple question from one citizen, i don't think he should have to explain his beliefs in depth every time someone asks him a question, and the guy did state he wanted a simple yes or a no. But, if you notice, the veteran just stated "why" and Romney just acted like a baby saying "nah nah u said only yes and no". He didn't approach the situation very mature-like and that's what I want to look for in a president. Someone who sits down and actually makes the voter more comfortable. Romney just antagonized the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost 1,410 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 I would also like to add that you Americans have better politicians than we do. Our last government let in loads of foreign nationals and gave them money to live on, it was actually better pay to not work and claim for benefits than it was to work on minimum wadge. The current government decided to cut the benefits a bit to try and get us back out of recession so naturally all the people on benefits voted the old government back in. When they are back in i guarantee that the UK will plummet even further into debt. Your friendly neighborhood alcoholic motorcyclist Life is too short to worry what others think of you, be creative, be weird, live life. Check out my YouTube here Check out my Fiora Jungle Guide here Check out my Motovlogging Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 I would also like to add that you Americans have better politicians than we do. Our last government let in loads of foreign nationals and gave them money to live on, it was actually better pay to not work and claim for benefits than it was to work on minimum wadge. The current government decided to cut the benefits a bit to try and get us back out of recession so naturally all the people on benefits voted the old government back in. When they are back in i guarantee that the UK will plummet even further into debt. Well, we do have our fair share of problems, but I didn't say that the US is the worst when it comes to politics. I mean, heck, there are countries where you get fire bombed for merely saying "no" to a certain candidate. I just felt the way Romney approached this guy was very baby-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnKrunk 307 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 At least that veteran has the balls to say what he has to say.Staying strong in what he has to say about gay marriage. So yea.Stuff 2 (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ ✧゚・: *ヽ(◕ヮ◕ヽ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KakeiTheWolf 652 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Honestly, I never cared for Romney. I never cared for Obama. All I want is a president that can soften the blow, and I see no hope of that. Human beings are moronic if they believe asinine crap like gay marriage even matters. People don't think about the big picture, and are so stuck in being selfish twits that they have no idea that we are about to enter not just the worst depression in the history of our country, but the greatest global economic collapse in history. No one is even taking this concept seriously. According to extensive calculations, in the most optimistic light, I predict we have at best until 2015 before we enter a depression that would not end until 2053. When Obama first got into office, things were salvageable, and the crash was a maybe. At the end of his first term, Obama's inaction and bifurcation of the nation (In contravention to his campaign) have guaranteed the crash. Nothing can be done to stop it now. Here's a rough sequence of events detailing the progression of the depression: 1: Second Down wave of Grand Supercycle starts. 2: Significant losses for all stocks, paired with a drop of over 1150 on the DOW Jones in one day. 3: US Economical Freeze. 4: Freeze affects all major countries heavily invested in the US Economy. 5: In order to salvage their economies, countries globally will call in the debt of the US. 6: By this point, the US cannot pay even interest on the debt. They cannot even pay off the debt with the entire monetary supply of circulated US currency. 7: Global economic crash, paired with the complete devaluation of the dollar. 8: Unemployment, due to lack of funds to support employment, will increase well over 30%. 9: Foreclosures will skyrocket, leading to an immense sharp rise in homelessness. 10: Second Down Wave of Grand Supercycle will finish, leading to an incredibly slow recovery, due to incredible deflation. 11: Eventual end of depression. We have real problems. Self-worshipping twits unsatisfied with what they have is not one of them. 5 My Music: http://kakeithewolf.bandcamp.com/. Now on tumblr at kakeithewolf.tumblr.com Youtube: youtube.com/user/KakeiTheWoIf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Rising 2,156 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) How do you figure Romney got owned exactly..? He gave his opinion very respectfully and explained why that was his opinion - because he thinks at the time the constitution was written marriage was very specific. And honestly, I think if this one issue is the deciding factor for this veteran he is being very petty @@KakeiTheWolf Well said Edited September 6, 2012 by Hollowshield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 (edited) How do you figure Romney got owned exactly..? He gave his opinion very respectfully and explained why that was his opinion - because he thinks at the time the constitution was written marriage was very specific. The Consitution written "at the time". This isn't the colonial days where imperialisitc practices from the Europeans was considered "normal". This is the new age where a harmless group of humans are being denied a simple request. EDIT: haha, "harmful". Probably would have hurt my argument. Edited September 6, 2012 by AegisReflector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castoro Chiaro 181 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) Ohh, there are so many more outrageous things Romney's said than this. Ugh. I'm just scared because no matter how infuriating and untrue things he and Paul Ryan say, they're still winning states. I'm absolutely petrified of this man winning the office. Even if you're neutral on politics, at least vote so this guy doesn't win. Because the amount of damage he could do to a lot of us is really devastating. When Obama first got into office, things were salvageable, and the crash was a maybe. At the end of his first term, Obama's inaction and bifurcation of the nation (In contravention to his campaign) have guaranteed the crash. Obama TRIED to pass legislation to create new jobs. If you want to be angry with anyone, blame Congress. They've blocked as much legislation as possible in order to make it look like Obama's letting America fail. Edited September 6, 2012 by Castoro Chiaro 1 -- I'm also of the opinion that deliberate lies and innuendos should never be allowed to go unopposed. At what point does tolerating the intolerable make you part of the problem? - John DeLancie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoop 8,384 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Human beings are moronic if they believe asinine crap like gay marriage even matters. I don't believe that it is moronic for someone to care about the state of their rights - the person in that video, for example, brought up a very good point when he started talking about what would happen to his partner if he were to die. How is worrying about your loved one's future after your own passing moronic? I agree that there are a large number of very significant issues at hand presently, and that gay marriage should not be among them - rather than making it be a subject of attention and debate, people should simply be given equal rights and that should be the end of it. If you want to make the argument that marriage is a fundamentally religious institution and should subsequently not be forcefully tampered with, that's fine - call it a civil union if it will make it less of an issue. But yeah, I agree - people should be able to focus on other issues. :V How do you figure Romney got owned exactly..? He gave his opinion very respectfully and explained why that was his opinion - because he thinks at the time the constitution was written marriage was very specific. And honestly, I think if this one issue is the deciding factor for this veteran he is being very petty While I disagree with Romney's position, I do have to respect the fact that he was willing to give the guy the straight yes or no answer he asked for, without a bunch of political nonsense to go along with. That's more than you can get out of many politicians. I don't think it's terribly petty though - he's concerned about what rights (if any, and if at all) will be afforded to his partner should something happen to him; I do not believe that being concerned for your family's well being can be considered petty. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurshy 708 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 I agree with Wolf. In the grand scheme of things what the hell does something as trivial as gay marriage matter? It is just like when I watch television and I see a commercial for a charity organization for abused pets, pfft yeah abused pets are really on the top of my agenda why don't I just drain my bank account for you pet organizations? We as a nation, no, as a world, are pretty much screwed. I hope I am well out of college by the time the economy completely collapses into a depression. More than likely wars will be started up because of this and I am not just talking about world wars, I am talking about civil wars, riot outbreaks, rebel guerrilla factions, stuff like that. And I wan't to be long gone from here when that happens. I think I will move to a uninhabited forest or something. Not even use money, just live off of the land, become a hermit. [CLICK THE SIG FOR OC] (Signature created by Azura) Shinobu is best girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 Congress, yes, is an unstable mess between Republicans and Democrats fighting over who gets the last piece of chocolate cake, but there's supposed to be a president who can unify these parties to do the biddings of the people and the economy. Obama just tries to pass crap all the time without a logical reasoning with the Republicans and that's why nothing gets done on Capitol Hill. If we are to be a valid country again, we need to have more unification and agreement. Hell, FDR did that. Nobody even questioned him. The country was at war, and he did his best to fight for the country's stability. That unity ended when unpopular wars such as Vietnam and Korea and the Watergate scandal teared up Congress, forcing a back-and-forth kind of babyish battles to sustain their so-called "power status". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrOphthalmos 497 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 The Consitution written "at the time". Yeah, I do not think that is a valid argument since "at the time" slavery was also perfectly legal. Part of what makes the Constitution great is that it can be modified with amendments. If not for amendments, the whole thing would have been tossed years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Fluttershy 1,844 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) It's times like these that I think we all need to sit down, and make fun of some politicians so here we go. Obviously whoever made this has the right idea about what politics are. A joke. Now I'm not making fun of anyone here. I myself strongly believe that if two people are in love, than they should be permitted to get married. Edited September 6, 2012 by Like A Boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 Yeah, I do not think that is a valid argument since "at the time" slavery was also perfectly legal. Part of what makes the Constitution great is that it can be modified with amendments. If not for amendments, the whole thing would have been tossed years ago. Most of the Constitution's original premise is totally shattered by this point in time, so who really gives a care? Heck, even the Prohibition Amendment was cancelled out by another amendment, and now beer is one of the most consumed beverages in America lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Rising 2,156 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) I don't think it's terribly petty though - he's concerned about what rights (if any, and if at all) will be afforded to his partner should something happen to him; I do not believe that being concerned for your family's well being can be considered petty. This is the key issue in my opinion. First can marriage even be considered a right? Second, for those who are married is it a right to get benefits for it? I wouldn't consider it a right and I don't think anyone should be given any sort of benefits (especially by the government) for something so ambiguous. If all people care about are the benefits then why even argue about marriage at all. It sounds to me like they should just design a way for two people to have the same benefits that married people usually get. They don't even have to call it marriage or civil union, they could call it bestfriendship or something, it wouldn't make any difference to me and I don't see why it would make a difference to them Edited September 6, 2012 by Hollowshield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarfy HOOVES 310 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 i really don't see him winning mainly cuz he is a morom. This is not me judging morons it's the simple fact that the majority of Christians will not vote for someone who believes in things that appear in history about as often as lepurchans it's said but i feel this will make it hard for him to win. Many rational people will see his faith views so irrational that they believe it will effect his ability to think rationally while in office as well. It's sad but the majority of people vote strictly on faith. one of the reasons kerry lost to bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisReflector 886 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 i really don't see him winning mainly cuz he is a morom. This is not me judging morons it's the simple fact that the majority of Christians will not vote for someone who believes in things that appear in history about as often as lepurchans it's said but i feel this will make it hard for him to win. Many rational people will see his faith views so irrational that they believe it will effect his ability to think rationally while in office as well. It's sad but the majority of people vote strictly on faith. one of the reasons kerry lost to bush John F. Kennedy was a Catholic and he was voted into office. People knew what they were doing. Obama's religion is clearly questionable as he has yet to announce what he truly is. Obviously, people knew this but still voted for him anyways despite rumors of him being a "secret Muslim". Never underestimate the power of an election. Things can get topsy-turvey in an instant. Just look at the rigged voting of Gore v. Bush. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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