Toughbrony20 24 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) It has been brought to my attention that the brony fandom has been doomed. Now I can be wrong about this, but it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there Edit: you know something, these factors mean nothing. I was ignorant of this before. Cloppers aren't bad people, they may get aroused by different things, but hey who am I to judge? Let the cloppers do their own thing in the privacy of their homes The fan artist. This was an even more ignorant statement. The human rendition of the mane 6 is not bad at all, it just shows off the creative side of people, and I believe no one should criticize creativity. I've come to appreciate that side of the fandom. Let it be known that my animosity towards them has been vanquished, and I will "love and tolerate" every side of the great mlp fandom! Edited September 6, 2012 by Toughbrony20 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro*Derpy 3,185 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) the YouTube brony Most of them aren't a real brony in my book :/ Over half of them start crap and are just trolls acting like they are a brony. Cloppers Hey everyone has there style/type/etc. There is no reason to hate.Fan art. You know people enjoy crossovers right? You might not like them, but other people do. I really don't see these examples as the end of a fandom :/ Edited September 29, 2012 by Bobthecableman 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerul 554 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Well here's just my two cents on what you've said Example one: I agree. It makes us all seem like we are close minded and ignorant to the fact that it's OK if someone doesn't share our opinion Example two: I personally don't like clopping and even hate to think about it but I wouldn't judge.Not everyone thinks the way I do though so I can see hwy that turns people off. Example three: Nope.I don't see how that can tick someone off.Human fan art is amazing and actually one of my favorite types of Brony art I disagree with this one "Why, am I not royal enough for you? Don't you know who I am?" Ooh! Ooh! More guessing games! Um... Pokey Smokes! How about Queen Meanie? No! Black Snooty, Black Snooty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazzyJam 1,519 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Rules of the internet. Read them. learn them. live them. love them. Of course, this sort of thing will happen, and we are not the only fandom this happens in, Bronyism just so happens to be getting the most attention. 1 Riley was here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiliscael 3,960 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Bullshit, the more active ones are the artists and writers who dish out new content every day. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Youtube bronies suck, no argument. The ones who comment on non-pony videos with stuff like "PINKIE PIES BEST PONY THUMB UP IF U AGREE!!!!" make me want to kill someone. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said THIS is the problem I have with bronies. PEOPLE LIKE THIS. You claim to love and tolerate but you freak out at another member of your fanbase. What difference does it make if i clop? NONE. I keep my stuff to myself. If anything is ruining the fandom, it's close minded people like you. Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. What's wrong with humanized? It's an art style, and while I'm not a fan of it, I appreciate the work they put into it. Sorry if I sound harsh, but that's just the way I am. Or are you gonna hate me for it? 14 I tend to take the high road, get stoned, and fly low . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupcake Ice Cream 436 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 It has been brought to my attention that the brony fandom has been doomed. Now I can be wrong about this, but it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there Cloppers aren't harming people...you can always ignore it...same with fan art...I like human versions...it's cool I guess I am saying this seems like opinions on stuff you don't like. I don't think it is ruining things...jmho though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,881 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Oh, get over it. Porn is in every single fandom in existence. I'm so sick of people whining about cloppers as if it's some sin that's never been seen before. Not only does it not concern you in any way, but like I said, it's everywhere, so treating it as some stain that the brony fandom has, that will result in it being doomed is laughable. I also fail to see, at all, how human Mane 6 is going to lead to the doom of anything. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkazoid 3,493 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Okay, FUCKING stop right there. Everybody on the forums knows me well 'nough to know that I'm pretty much one of the nicest people here, and I am a clopper, some bronies may not know that, but look 'bud, the close minded fans like you are also ruining the fandom, like it or not. I know many many cloppers here, that doesn't make them fucking sickos, they just have different interests.... Sorry if I'm being rude, it's just that what you said can be just as close minded as an anti brony itself. Edited September 6, 2012 by Pinkazoid 20 :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toughbrony20 24 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 Well now that I think of it, it's THOSE fans that are condemned, not the entire community. As long as I don't become any of those, I'll continue enjoying mlp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazzyJam 1,519 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Well now that I think of it, it's THOSE fans that are condemned, not the entire community. As long as I don't become any of those, I'll continue enjoying mlp. Well if you didnt just shoot yourself in the foot mate . My only thinking is if you were one of those, you would tolerate it and therefore still enjoy the show. It just seems like we are hitting counter intuitive circle thinking here 2 Riley was here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bari 7,023 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) Example 1: The YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. For Example 1: I'll agree with you for that one. We're not a cult or anything. For Example 2: People have the right to do what they like in the privacy of their own homes so long as it isn't illegal. Not very tolerate of you... For Example 3: Okay, this one makes little sense. Humanizing a nonhuman character is pretty cool. Especially how people have different interpretations on how the ponies would look like human. Yeah, those are my thoughts. Just voicing my opinion like you. Eh, I like the diversity those fans bring. They stay themselves and just enjoy ponies like the rest of us. Edited September 6, 2012 by Berry Pie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverHeart 741 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion.I'll go ahead and agree with this, even though I have never heard anyone complain about it. Alas none in my circle are avid youtubers anyway.Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff saidI'll be honest this doesn't really bother me unless it's to the CMC or other young "children" in the show...and even then I won't say anything (Unless it's this situation, on a forum where everyone is speaking their mind) and I'll even be honest I have tried it, not my thing. I appreciated the quality of some of the art though. Not much because alot of it from what I could tell wasn't done very well. But I am getting really off track here.Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up.I really fail to see how this means the end of the fandom? Perhaps I'm just confused. Some of it is really well done and rather cool. 2 Silver Heart, Lapis, Mirror Image-My OC Ponies. Signature by PixiGlow Are you bored? Read my fanfic! Canterlot in Chaos (Criticism is welcome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XUNUSEDXXX 3,459 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 1. YouTube bronies... really I'm disappointed in most of them. I always have to stop the fights which always gets me top comment 2. I really agree... 3. I don't mind any fan art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Seeker 302 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 It has been brought to my attention that the brony fandom has been doomed. Now I can be wrong about this, but it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there 1) I have been slapped and screamed at because I have pointed out flaws in FF games. I have also encountered people who refuse to have anything to do with people who aren't fans of Final Fantasy. 2) Final Fantasy porn exists. I have seen it (but no, I will not supply links as that would be naughty of me) 3) Loads of fan art exists for FF which does weird stuff with the characters (Gender bending for example). Given how well the Final Fantasy series is doing, I cannot see our fandom suffering because of these things that you dislike due to your own tastes. I have found that clopper art is often pretty damn funny myself. Each to their own (or Love and Tolerance!). 2 Avatar of OC by the lovely Skullgal56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonySoul 10 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there Um....I don't want to hurt your virgin ears, but Final Fantasy kind of has the exact same type of stuff...........Then again Final Fantasy was condemned when they couldn't produce a game that doesn't suck in several tries. If you want to you can find some pretty twisted fan stuff of Final Fantasy. That is far from MLP exclusive. Though to be honest the words Youtube instantly makes people stupid. Edited September 6, 2012 by PonySoul I have proven Rainbow Dash is best pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Akemi 974 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Rule 34 is for everything, so I don't count that at all. I think having ponies on every corner of the Internet is bad. It makes people judge the show as annoying before they've even seen it. We all like different things, though. Having ponies on the front page of dA all the time doesn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toughbrony20 24 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 Well I'm gonna be frank with you, I fear I'll become one these someday. Because I'll be truthful of this too, last month I was one of those trolls bashing on mlp even though I've never seen the show, and now I can't get it out of my head and my life has become 20% cooler because of it. And one last thing, most people that know me personally know I'm a hypocrite, and I admit it myself, but you'll get over it Now in defense in Final Fantasy, the games themselves are killing the franchise, not the fans, you see the difference there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk 100 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Well I'm gonna be frank with you, I fear I'll become one these someday. Because I'll be truthful of this too, last month I was one of those trolls bashing on mlp even though I've never seen the show, and now I can't get it out of my head and my life has become 20% cooler because of it. And one last thing, most people that know me personally know I'm a hypocrite, and I admit it myself, but you'll get over it Don't worry, you always have a choice. You can choose to not be a clopper. And you can choose to not be an annoying Brony that rudely shoves the show into everyone's faces, ignoring the basic message of Love & Tolerance. I've been a Brony for nearly a year and I have never ended up anywhere close to either of those two situations. I will respectfully disagree with you on the artwork however. There is nothing wrong with drawing fan art in any form in my oppinion, even the humanized ponies. Sure I may find some pieces, particularly the Rule 34 stuff, distasteful. But they have the right to draw those images, and they are not unique in that. All fan bases have people who R34 the crap out of whatever they are fans of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there You obviously don't pay much attention to your surroundings. Final Fantasy attracts insane fan girls like moths to a flame. 2 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 It has been brought to my attention that the brony fandom has been doomed. Now I can be wrong about this, but it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there Why all the hate, so what if cloppers like that, are you a morally superior being? Are you so mighty as to command others as to what is right and wrong, get off the pedestal. Its a fetish, we've all got them, and it hurts no one. With the youtubers, have you noticed that most are probably trolls, or don't really care? Youtube is full of people like that, don't expect them maybe being bronies to change that, they're still people with anonymity. What is wrong with humanized version of them? So because you don't like a certain way people do their drawing, its wrong? Dat pedestal man. How exactly are these "just now" killing the fandom anyway, they've been around since the start? And dude, every fandom has the things you talked about, every fff-in fandom, Final Fantasy too, you just don't notice or haven't seen it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiance64 7,053 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 1) You'll get those with any fandom, that sort of thing isn't exclusive to bronies you know. 2) People are gonna do what they wanna do, if you don't like it, ignore it. 3) How can you hate the fan art? Some of the most talented artwork I've ever seen is MLP-related, and I like the humanized stuff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toughbrony20 24 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 You know what, I'm glad everyone posted their opinions on the matter. It was wrong of me to judge the cloppers and the fan art. The cloppers do have the right to do what they want with their own time, and it should not be my business if they do! The fan art is cool as well. I was ignorant to say the human rendition of the mane 6 was bad, in fact it's great because it shows how good the artist is therefore I Should not criticize creativity Last piece regarding the cloppers. Who am I to judge them, don't get me wrong I'm not a clopper or anything but strange fetishes do come up and again it was very ignorant of me to judge them for that 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marceline 187 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) It has been brought to my attention that the brony fandom has been doomed. Now I can be wrong about this, but it seems like the more 'active' fans are the ones ruining it. Example:the YouTube brony. All they do is lurk YouTube trying to convert people into bronies like some sort of religion. Example 2: Cloppers. The sickos that get off to animated ponies. Nuff said Example 3: Fan art. Now don't get ahead of me, the casual fan art is cool, but the ones that make human versions of the mane 6. And again, this example was something someone else I've spoken to brought up. Now let me put this in perspective, I am a die hard fan of the Final Fantasy video game franchise and I will buy anything on this earth that has that name on it. Now in all my time being a fan, I've never seen any of the 3 examples I just put. I am aware that I'm making this thread to long and I'll end it here, because even though this is more of a defense of my fellow bronies than an attack on them, I just need to get this out there Not all YT bronies are hardcore converters.There will be "cloppers" in any and all fandoms in existence. It's unavoidable. And there are people like that when it comes to Final Fantasy. . . . What's wrong with human versions of ponies? Some of them are really cute and well done. And there's obviously Final Fantasy fan art, but since the characters are generally human, what are you gonna do? Edited September 6, 2012 by Twi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ink 191 September 6, 2012 Share September 6, 2012 (edited) eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Edited August 21, 2018 by Ink I frequently edit my new posts to fix grammatical errors or to reword stuff, so sorry if I make it look like I'm forging my messages to change the meaning of anyone's replies or something. Reading the blog below kills more brain cells per minute than smoking: http://health-and-fitness-tips-and-topics.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toughbrony20 24 September 6, 2012 Author Share September 6, 2012 (for further criticism towards me, refer to my latest post on the thread, everything has been set in stone there, I changed my views) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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