Can any Griffons do magic?

[silvadel 1,393]

There doesn't seem to be any real evidence for or against it in cannon that I have seen. I mean Gilda obviously couldnt but she was more a pegasus analog than anything else. I would figure that any griffon mages would be less likely to be seen outside the griffon kingdom unless at some scholarly thing.

 

Have I missed a statement by any of the MLP staff on this topic?

[DJShy 873]

The way I see it, a griffon could do magic, but not the kind your thinking of.

 

If it exacts there, I sure griffons could do black, or dark, magic.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

Griffins are basically all half bird, half (some other animal... I think it's lion) anyways, they can't do magic. Now they may be good a brewing potions, because we haven't seen anything of the griffin kingdom, but they can't do magic.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

Well there haven't been to many griffons in the show so far, but most likely griffons can't use magic. They just don't seem like a creator that can harness magic. Maybe if they had a magic item, but most likely they can't to it.

[Starshine 16,333]

We only ever see one griffon on the show, that's Gilda :c

 

From what we can see straight from the show, Griffons can walk on cloud, and fly (duh). Other than that it's up to your fanon

[silvadel 1,393]

Actually we saw TWO griffons so far -- Gilda, and the cook in MMMysteries... What is interesting is Gilda seems sort of like a griffon pegasus and the cook was closer to a griffon earth pony...

[Starshine 16,333]

the cook in MMMysteries

Whoops! Sorry, forgot about that one

 

But other than he being fancy with that mustache of his, there is no clue what kind of feats he can do

[silvadel 1,393]

Personally I think we need an episode or three up in the griffon kingdoms... There is so much out there to explore and it has hardly been touched upon at all.

 

(This is part of why I always laugh when someone says "but there wouldnt be enough content for 8 seasons" -- of course there is enough potential content...)

Edited October 14, 2012 by silvadel

[Perpetual Lurker 9]

I like to think that Griffins would practice runic magic, but that's just in my head. There's no evidence for or against it in the show, so I guess the default assumption is no until suggested otherwise.

[Apollo 297]

Griffins are basically all half bird, half (some other animal... I think it's lion) anyways, they can't do magic. Now they may be good a brewing potions, because we haven't seen anything of the griffin kingdom, but they can't do magic.

 

You don't know that.

Im sure that most sentient creatures in equestria have the capabilities of some form of magic.

Unicorns have their magic powers.

Pegasai can manipulate weather and stand on clouds.

I believe that Earth ponies may have some sort of super rare latent ability that could be classified as some sort of magic.

It is highly possible that griffins could use magic. They may not have any mental or physical magical abilities, but those are not the only kinds of magic in the world. Like P.L. said, there is the possibility of runic magic. They could also possibly use incantations or rituals that have magical effect. Just because it has not been seen does not mean it doesn't exist, or is impossible. That my friend is being rather closed minded.

Edited October 14, 2012 by David Tennant

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

You don't know that.

Im sure that most sentient creatures in equestria have the capabilities of some form of magic.

Unicorns have their magic powers.

Pegasai can manipulate weather and stand on clouds.

I believe that Earth ponies may have some sort of super rare latent ability that could be classified as some sort of magic.

It is highly possible that griffins could use magic. They may not have any mental or physical magical abilities, but those are not the only kinds of magic in the world. Like P.L. said, there is the possibility of runic magic. They could also possible use incantations or rituals that have magical effect. Just because it has not been seen does not mean it doesn't exist, or is impossible. That my friend is being rather closed minded.

 

That is true... I forgot how basically everything in Equestria is magical... XD... I'm just going off of whats canon, plus I just said probably, so... yeah.

[Apollo 297]

That is true... I forgot how basically everything in Equestria is magical... XD... I'm just going off of whats canon, plus I just said probably, so... yeah.

 

Ah, but we don't know the truth of the full canon about griffins yet. Thats whats so wonderful about it.

So far we have seen but two griffins in the same amount of seasons. We know so little about them, and that is why the possibilities are absolutely infinite! It excites me and fills me with anticipation on what the future of the show may hold.

[Winona the Dog 1,984]

Heh i'd say dragons have a better chance of doing magic....but no i dont think griffons can do magic it just would'nt seem right for them to use the kind of magic ponies would use.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

Ah, but we don't know the truth of the full canon about griffins yet. Thats whats so wonderful about it.

So far we have seen but two griffins in the same amount of seasons. We know so little about them, and that is why the possibilities are absolutely infinite! It excites me and fills me with anticipation on what the future of the show may hold.

 

I see your point... Plus didn't they say something about visiting the griffin kingdom next season... Hmm, well anyways, that is true.

[Apollo 297]

Heh i'd say dragons have a better chance of doing magic....but no i dont think griffons can do magic it just would'nt seem right for them to use the kind of magic ponies would use.

 

The thing is that they don't have to use the same kind of magic. There are so many different kinds.

Equestria is a magical land with so many possibilities. How can you just rule out the possibility of griffins being able to use magic when we have only seen two griffins in the entire series so far?

[Winona the Dog 1,984]

@,

 

Well what i meant was the Griffions using any kind of magic at all. (I dont know about making poitions and whatnot) Griffions seem like the warrior type of race to me at least.

[Apollo 297]

@,

 

Well what i meant was the Griffions using any kind of magic at all. (I dont know about making poitions and whatnot) Griffions seem like the warrior type of race to me at least.

 

But you seem to just be ruling out the possibility all together!

None of us know what the future of the show will bring. Perhaps at the end of season three there will be a group of griffin warlocks who need the help of the mane six.

The beauty of it is in the mystery. Perhaps you are right. Perhaps griffins have no magic. But we don't know that for sure.

[NavelColt 22,880]

I'm gonna go with no, seeing as their thing is flying, like pegasi.

 

That's not to say you may stumble upon some freaky voodoo griffins who do kinds of magic, in the same way Zecora does.

[Silverhoof 2,844]

griffons are like pegusi...they don't DO magic, they ARE magic.

The pegasus race shares an inherent racial magic. They can walk on clouds, fly with wings far too small, and control the weather.

 

Griffons are the same thing. We have seen Gilda sitting on a cloud. Inherent racial magic is displayed right there, The fact that griffons have working hands takes the place of the pony's need for magic based Telekinesis.So as a race griffons can magically fly and make clouds into homes. Griffons are just another version of a Pegasus. So I doubt they have magic like the unicorns.

[Apollo 297]

griffons are like pegusi...they don't DO magic, they ARE magic.

The pegasus race shares an inherent racial magic. They can walk on clouds, fly with wings far too small, and control the weather.

 

Griffons are the same thing. We have seen Gilda sitting on a cloud. Inherent racial magic is displayed right there, The fact that griffons have working hands takes the place of the pony's need for magic based Telekinesis.So as a race griffons can magically fly and make clouds into homes. Griffons are just another version of a Pegasus. So I doubt they have magic like the unicorns.

 

You make a good point, but there are still possibilities.

We will just have to wait and see what the future brings.

Allons-Y!

=33

[Perpetual Lurker 9]

Heh i'd say dragons have a better chance of doing magic....but no i dont think griffons can do magic it just would'nt seem right for them to use the kind of magic ponies would use.

 

We already know that Dragons can use magic. What do you think Spike's letter-sending fire is?

 

While Griffins do share the ability to interact with clouds, that appears to be an innate part of all winged creatures, not just Pegasi and Griffins. We've seen birds sitting on clouds, too. The ability to kick a cloud and have it shoot lightning could be something different altogether that Griffins don't have.

[Winona the Dog 1,984]

We already know that Dragons can use magic. What do you think Spike's letter-sending fire is?

Although Spike may be an exception because we never seen any other dragons use the same magic fire that Spike has.

 

Perhaps there is a breed of dragons that can utilize magic but as far we know Spike is the only one.

[Apollo 297]

On the topic of Spike's magic, my belief is that he only has that particular kind of magic is because Twilight used her magic to hatch him from his egg.

My belief is that Spike's egg was an abandoned egg due to being infertile. Twilight's magic greatly effected the egg, hatching it and giving Spike his special magic. Haven't you noticed Twilight's seemingly instinctual teleportation magic? Spike's magic is also teleportation.

Technically, Twilight is not Spike's sister, or mother. She is his Father.

 

 

Anyway, my belief about magic for dragons is the same about my belief about magic for griffins. It is all possible mainly because we don't know much about it yet.

[joeyh3 153]

There are different types of magic. The most prevalent one in the show is unicorn magic, which is based on mana (the magical powers from within), but canon hasn't stated that mana is the only type of magic within Equestria. There could also be external types of magic too - potions, runes, natural magic, etc.

 

Look at Zecora - during Luna Eclipsed, she was able to cash various spells using some kinda enchanted dusts to put on a show about Luna/Nightmare Moon. Although she wasn't able to cast such spells herself using internal magical powers, she is still capable of performing magical tasks.

 

So my theory is yes - there are griffons who'd be capable of performing magic. Their magic would be significantly different from unicorn magic, but it is very possible that they'll have some means of performing spells.

Edited October 14, 2012 by joeyh3